It was pretty amazing when Davis tried to argue that someone other than Hubbard had added the stuff about homosexuality to his writings, and that's why it had been taken out. This is the only book I've read where an account of its own fact-checking process was included and was in itself riveting.
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link
Just finished the Wright book tonight and basically everyone ^ otm. Hugely admire the people who were in deep but found the courage to blow and then speak out. Really does seem like scientology stands apart in its vindictiveness.
Apparently Louis Theroux is working on a scientology doc..
― sktsh, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Finished Going Clear. What a ride, eh?― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, February 10, 2014 8:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you should start a thread: Hurting Went Clear. Now Ask Him About It.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link
Had anyone read his Amish book? tempted to check it out, after he mentioned it in the text.
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 07:59 (ten years ago) link
Kind of want to read all of his books now.
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
we should start a thread for books that began as NYer articles/written by NYer writers
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
good idea
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
I really like the Dana Goodyear Anything That Moves exotic food/foodie book. There were several chapters of that that stemmed from her New Yorker writing.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
David Remnick's Ali book is great
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
would really like to read his other non-fiction books. He was another NYer writer that always stood out to me well before he became editor
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
Y'all weren't kidding! I'm reading this book right now, it's great!
― iFrankenstein (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
A conspicuous example of Dianetic processing involved John Brodie, the outstanding quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, who suffered an injury to his throwing arm in 1970 that threatened to end his career. Despite the best medical attention and physical therapy, his elbow remained sore and swollen. Finally, he went to Phil Spickler, a Scientologist and Dianetic auditor, who asked Brodie to tell him about previous incidents that might be keeping his arm from healing. Brodie related that he had been in a severe traffic accident in 1963, in which his arm had been broken. As he explored the incident with Spickler, Brodie seemed to recall one of the ambulance attendants saying, “Well, that poor sonofabitch will never throw a football again.” And yet Brodie was unconscious at the time. How could he have such a memory? Spickler told him this was all part of an engram that was keeping him from getting well. “The ambulance attendant’s prediction had been simmering in my unconscious for seven years, agitating all my deepest fears of declining ability or failure,” Brodie later writes. “It had finally surfaced as this psychosomatic ailment in my throwing arm. Phil made me tell the story again and again and again, until no charge showed on the E-Meter” (John Brodie and James D. Houston, Open Field, p. 166). The swelling on Brodie’s arm diminished. He went on to have one of the greatest seasons of his career, and was voted the National Football League’s most valuable player that year.
― Mordy , Tuesday, 18 February 2014 05:30 (ten years ago) link
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Weather/volcano1b.gif
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 05:38 (ten years ago) link
Started the book this week, thanks to this thread. Something struck my memory. Didn't there used to be a searchable online database of people who had taken Scientology courses? I swear I've seen something like that on the internet in the last 5 years or so.
― how's life, Friday, 28 February 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link
Oh nevermind, I was just thinking of this (list of known Sci-Tie celebs).
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/faq-you/celeb.txt
― how's life, Friday, 28 February 2014 12:42 (ten years ago) link
also lol at these youngs who are like "we are so going to fake-take scientology stress tests and then write about it" when they start to get calls and messages from the scientologists and then the calls never stop for the rest of their lives, wherever they move, no matter how many times they change their number
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
I accepted a free bible from some Mormons and it took me like a year to shake them.
― how's life, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
the socialist party of north carolina didn't leave me alone for at least 3 years after i left the statelearned my lesson!
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
they'll probably find me again now!
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
This thread is deindexed. Your secret's safe with us.
― how's life, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
i've taken scientology stress tests so many times on the streets of manhattan and they never asked for my phone #!
― Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
are you strssed?
― how's life, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link
well obvs
― Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
maybe thats why they didnt ask, they were like, yeesh, cant help this dude
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
he broke our tin cans
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
xp I think she meant people who publicly write about it. Scientology harasses its critics.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
yupthey also know your name and how to find you!
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link
have any ilxors done any coursework at COS?
― Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
james franco may have dabbled
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
i have
― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link
i've mentioned on ilx before that i've done a ton of coursework at landmark (aka est 2.0) tho not very recently (probably last course i did was about eight years ago). i've always been curious about scientology bc i know werner erhard took a bunch of courses w/ scientology b4 starting est and they accused him of stealing some of their "technology" and put him on their enemies lists, etc. i always heard rumors that they were behind the 60 minutes hit job.
― Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
Going Clear is the first book on scientology that I've read, so this is all blowing my mind. Letting depth charges loose on shadows is kind of lol, but damn this dude was dark.
― 4. Nels Cline and My Uncle Eat Soup at Panera Bread (3:37) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
Is stability in the e-meter reading what counts? I kind of want to try and game it and become OT7 from one sitting.
― 4. Nels Cline and My Uncle Eat Soup at Panera Bread (3:37) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link
mordy start a landmark thread
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
there is such a thread: Landmark Forum
― Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
Finished Going Clear yesterday. I'm doing my best to not refer to people as SPs and PTSs or talk about my engrams.
― how's life, Friday, 7 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
I kind of want to try and game it and become OT7 from one sitting.
will never happen
― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
someone pointed out to me that the whole john travolta "Adele Dazeem" thing is so much funnier once you think about how top-level scientologists are supposed to have master's grasp of spoken language and possess total mental clarity
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link
he misspoke because of SPs like you, gr8080
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link
I kind of want to try and game it and become OT7 from one sitting.will never happen
― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, March 7, 2014 11:27 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, I can see that's not how it works now that I've read more. It'd perhaps be more fun to make the needle jump around consistently throughout the audit, suggesting that you've committed great crimes against the church.
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link
but really, I'm not going to do any of these things bc I don't want TC to punch me in the face
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
TC would never bother to do thatYou would get sent to the trailer to crawl from end to end for weeks while deliberately placed crumbs permanently embed themselves in your knees. Or you would just disappear.
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link
;_; feel like I am owed at least one punch from TC
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link
you have to already be very involved in scientology for them to send you to the trailer. new joiners don't see any of that hardcore shit.
― Mordy , Friday, 7 March 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah, the trailer was for executives on the Gold Base, no?
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if the org chart is done
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:43 (ten years ago) link
if you go to get tested, or to take an introductory course, and basically spend the time making jokes and clearly not taking shit seriously, they basically ask you to get lost.
― Mordy , Friday, 7 March 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
get lost, enturbulator!
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
not cool, joke-man. very disrespectful.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 7 March 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
james franco?
― POO: the blossom or full flower of the evening (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 7 March 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link