I have to admit, I couldn't finish Hail the Conquering Hero. I guess I should try again.
― Benjamin Motherfucking Franklin (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe you got distracted by ...the spots! ... the spots!
Oh wait, wrong Eddie Bracken movie.
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
HtCH out-Capras Capra.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
in a good way.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
morgan's creek is hilarious, so thati actually don't like sullivan's travels at all (despite v. lake)palm beach is funny too but doesn't hold up on repeat viewings very well
― velko, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
the ones of these ive seen are unfaithfully yours and lady eve
― Lamp, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
"Convulse me."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Palm_Beach_Story_McCrea_Colbert_trailer_screenshot3.jpg/250px-Palm_Beach_Story_McCrea_Colbert_trailer_screenshot3.jpg
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Would Palm Beach Story/Ride the High Country be the most jarring McCrae double feature? Sounds worth trying, at least.
― Benjamin Motherfucking Franklin (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Why would it be? He's so amiable and unassumingly sexy (I find him hot, actually).
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Just really different roles, I guess. Maybe I'm talking nonsense. It happened before, once.
― Benjamin Motherfucking Franklin (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
all hail The Miracle of Morgan's Creek DVDI Don't Think He'd Have Given It To Me If I Had Hair Like EXCELSIOR Or Little Legs Like An Alligator
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Went for The Lady Eve, even if the second half doens't quite measure up to the first.
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll also join the chorus of Bracken dissenters
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, Bracken annoyed me too. But I'm here to praise Sturges, so ignore the negativity.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
you guys are a bunch of Ratzkywatzkys
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Kockenlocker!
I've only seen the first seven plus "Unfaithfully Yours" (which woulda been better if it had Bill Demarest in the Lionel Stander role the way Sturges intended) but yeah, whatta half-decade. This'll require some thought...
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Sullivan's for The Win!
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Have to vote for 'Lady Eve', but if the ones I haven't seen that you fellas are raving about are even better than I've got me some treats awaiting.
― James Morrison, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
THEN not than
― James Morrison, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 14 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
How should I vote? Ack! How could I vote?
(tears his hair out and runs from room to room)
― Aimless, Saturday, 14 March 2009 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll take over from here, Ambrose.
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 March 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 15 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
having seen only sullivans travels, i shall watch the rest of his movies in the order the poll above suggests (i didnae vote)
― that sounds so sad but am 18 so suck ma b*ws (stevie), Sunday, 15 March 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I watched the Palm Beach Story again last night. Fun, but I am well content with my vote for Sullivan's Travels.
― Aimless, Sunday, 15 March 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Saw Christmas in July today, laffed like moron about every other minute. When he was explaining his convoluted slogan all I could think of was, uh, ILM.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Saturday, 26 December 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
it isn't the coffee...
― cockslap twins (donna rouge), Saturday, 26 December 2009 06:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure, but my favorite scene of these might be in "Unfaithfully Yours" when the wife is being given a death sentence and Rex Harrison is in the back of the courtroom laughing his head off.
― Cunga, Saturday, 26 December 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Holy Smokes, The Palm Beach Story! Just...WOW.
The Ale & Quail Society=The NRA in my eyes.
― Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
morgan's creek the funniest, voted sullivan's travels cuz lake is so smashable
― s1ocki kong country (cankles), Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:11 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^
― darf ich bitte mit Poppage spielen?!? (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
WEENIE KING
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, c'mon, the Weenie King! Palm Beach Story is the best.
― Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
I got a Sturges box for Christmas, and re-watched "Palm Beach Story" recently. I love how unsentimental Colbert is in the break-up scenes, and Vallee is pitch-perfect as John D. Hackensacker. Just about perfect.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
Jim Knipfel praises The Sin of Harold Diddlebock (I really liked it the one time I saw it):
http://chiseler.org/post/48926315855/harold-lloyds-last
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 April 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
haven't watched any of these in a long time but the one that affected me most was 'christmas in july.' the final speech mentioned upthread still makes me choke up a bit.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
From Unfaithfully Yours:"Is there any insanity in his family?""I don't know but there's plenty in mine."
― Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
Glad I've finally made the mental genre adjustment and warmed up to that one.
― Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link
crick! CRICK!
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
Sullivan's Travels never quite got to the level of the first scene again, although Lake killed it.
Lost its way quite a bit, and not only on one occasion.
Have Morgan Creek and Palm Beach Story ready to once I get a college break.
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link
Sullivan's Travels doesn't stay in standard Romantic Comedy mode the whole way through, it is somewhat similar to Unfaithfully Yours in that regard, but this doesn't necessarily mean it is lesser than the other films.
― Kid Creole Meets Señor Coconut at a fIREHOSE Show (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link
I agree with darraghmac though -- it's my least favorite of the classics.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:45 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, mine too, truth be told, but I've watched the others so many times feel like it was time to give some love to that one. Also, I didn't fully get Unfaithfully Yours until last year.
― Kid Creole Meets Señor Coconut at a fIREHOSE Show (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i don't think that it was a failure to hold to a given genre that pulled me out of it though, and i wouldnt hold such a failure as a negative if the script kept a thread moving throughout the events. for all its snappy lines and good character turns (you'd not expect less anyway) it tacked on a beginning and an ending to a bit of a muddled middle imo.
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:54 (ten years ago) link
tbh a lot of Depression and post-Depression films garble their politics. Check out My Man Godfrey or Easy Living.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:56 (ten years ago) link
you hafta appeal to eberbody!
also fuck you guys
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link
I need to watch it again. Trying to remember, is Al Bridge the heavy when Sullivan is on the chain gang? If so, a departure from his usual grumpy but ultimately amiable self in the other films.
― Kid Creole Meets Señor Coconut at a fIREHOSE Show (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link
But not from his prior roles as in Hopalong Cassidy films apparently. He's like another splinter member of The Wild Bunch.
― Kid Creole Meets Señor Coconut at a fIREHOSE Show (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
In the forties, Bridge was part of Preston Sturges' unofficial "stock company" of character actors, appearing in ten of the eleven American films that Sturges wrote and directed.[7] He is perhaps best remembered for his role as "The Mister", the chain-gang boss over Joel McCrea in Preston Sturges' Sullivan's Travels.[8][9]
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link
The Beautiful Blonde from Bashful Bend isn't that bad. Kind of Tashlin-like, if I remember correctly, at least in its brightness and zip and silliness, if not in its style of editing and use of blackout gags.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link
Thanks, darraghmac, but I already reconstructed that gone missing neurological pathway between posts, same way I recently had to remind myself of Julius Tannen's "talking picture" bit in Singin' in the Rain
― Kid Creole Meets Señor Coconut at a fIREHOSE Show (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link
Here is his take: S/D, POX: Screwball comedies
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link
Also reposting a link he provided to an overview of a Leisen retro: http://www.movingimagesource.us/articles/design-for-living-20081023
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
There's a ton of info hidden on the TCM website that can't be found anywere else but you have to click through a bit to find it, such as in these notes: https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/73851/easy-living#notes
Leisen cast Esther Dale as the secretary because she looked just like Eleanor Broder (apparently his assistant); and the phone gag was based on Broder, who used to get the several telephones on her desk mixed up. Broder, quoted in the modern source, states that Arthur was "terribly concerned" with the way she looked, and Leisen personally directed all her wardrobe and hair tests and styled her hair himself, with the belief that if an actress is satisfield with the way she looks on the screen, she will devote all of her attention to her acting.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
caught four of these at the recently-concluded Film Forum series: Unfaithfully Yours, Morgan's Creek, Lady Eve, and Palm Beach Story. Had a good time at all, would rank them descending in that order. UF had me DYING, what a beautiful balance of verbal, observational and slapstick laughs, with the slapstick mostly pushed to the end so you're REALLY on board for seeing this guy taken down every possible peg.
Palm Beach Story was still packed with good line deliveries, but, cryptosicko otm upthread: the train sequence is bad.
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
(as always, nothing like great comedy in a theater. also for three of the four, i went with my pal who knew and really loved the films since way back, so it felt extra fun.)
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
So then wouldn't The Lady Eve rank above Morgan's Creek?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
Woulda gone to some of those with you DC!
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 06:47 (one year ago) link
i don't know what to say to people who don't like the train sequence in Palm Beach Story--if you don't love a bunch of drunken hunting assholes singing at the top of their lungs and driving their hunting dogs through the train waking people up, not to mention the shotgun shooting inside the meal car. . . . I mean that's like peak movie watching. Just astounding
― a (waterface), Monday, 6 February 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link
It goes on for a bit and the cutaways to the google-eyed Black waiter are a bit much (and I know the latter was standard for its time). I don't hate it, though. I like the shot of the uncoupled train receding while the drunken fools keeps shouting and shooting.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link
was watching the Lady Eve over the weekend and he just has set pieces in the middle of films just for a laff. . . like when Eugene Pallette is hungry for his breakfast. . . there's like 4 or 5 little bits just to get to the part when he's banging the lids together. hilarious
― a (waterface), Monday, 6 February 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link
No one played patrician exasperation better than hardcore conservative Pallette.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
you can see the steam coming out of his ears
― a (waterface), Monday, 6 February 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
"Standard for its time" sure but I do think Sturges is amongst the auteurs least shy about having these comedy black characters; don't see as many of them in Hawks and Wilder. Which doesn't necc mean he was worse - erasure is as insulting as caricature, at least he got some black actors paid - but yeah, more uncomfortable moments for sure.
Xposts
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 6 February 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
Should I buy Stuart Klawans’s book, I wonder.
― Huey “Piano” Smithers-Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
Spending money stimulates the economy and creates JOBS!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
What Would the Weenie King Do?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link
I’m generally not a fan of screwball comedy, but I tried The Palm Beach Story since it’s leaving Criterion, and enjoyed most of it. But man, that scene with simultaneous firearms, piano pounding and dogs barking is everything I dislike about the genre, confusing loud and frantic for funny.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 04:18 (one year ago) link
Finally watched EASY LIVING for the first time a few weeks ago, hadn’t even realized it was leaving until yesterday. Maybe y’all saw me live blogging it up thread. Both Preston Sturges and Billy Wilder and no doubt Andrew Sarris as well badmouthed Mitchell Leisen so much I used to steer clear of him but he has several classics under his belt, minor or otherwise.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 07:31 (one year ago) link
Hmm. Sarris filed him under Likely Likeable and was a pretty big fan of EASY LIVING.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 07:34 (one year ago) link
https://bampfa.org/event/easy-living-6
As Andrew Sarris notes: “Curiously, Easy Living is the only film with which Sturges the writer was associated in the thirties that may be reasonably preferred to any of his own forties films. Not only is Easy Living funny and gracious and generous in the best Sturges tradition: it is velvety smooth and comfortably movieish in a way no Sturges-directed film ever was.”
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 07:35 (one year ago) link
Don’t know if this has been linked yet.https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2022/cteq/some-enchanted-evening-mitchell-lesien-and-preston-sturges-remember-the-night-1940/
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 07:41 (one year ago) link
You're up late!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link
Saw Sullivan's Travels again last week. I forgot how broad the slapstick is! The smart in Sturges is really smart, but the stupid is really stupid. As a director he doesn't seem to have much of an idea how to shoot pratfalls, even though there are a LOT of them.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link
I think a lot of the directors Sarris lowballed in the '60s he ultimately came around on when the '90s rolled around
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
That's probably true, but I get the feeling that many people weren't paying close attention by that time and still live by the sacred text that is The American Cinema.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link
Just saw The Lady Eve for the first time (actually caught the last 3/4 then watched the entire thing with my wife.
"I need him like the ax needs the turkey."
What a great movie! One thing that was incredible watching it the second time was how so much happens in the last 20 minutes (the whole second relationship).
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link
I just rewatched a few weeks ago for the umpteenth time and was also amazed when I noted how short that section is time-wise.
― It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link