I thought it was sexy too... the comments at omona (at least) are objecting to a perceived lack of agency more than anything else, I think. I see what you mean about aesthetic choices but the whole aesthetic of the song is that Stellar are idiots/dolls who can't stop themselves from being played by some guy who doesn't care about them. I like sad (sexy) girls as much as anyone but this song <i>is</I> pretty disempowering.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
The song Topp Dogg should have promoted first off their album (and lined up with the Lunar New Year):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ascOzpuacLY
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
I was getting kind of tired of the track, but then some kind of traditional saxophonish instrument comes in at 2:46 and saves it.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
Stellar's words are about that, anyway, but I saw literally nobody bring it up until now. The criticism seems to be about how it's embarrassing or degrading in general for them to wiggle their butts in a blatantly provocative way on the video (although maybe the theme does contribute to it and the netizens just haven't figured out how to express what it is precisely that makes them uncomfortable).
I meant more that the criticism rather than the song is fair as an aesthetic rather than a moral judgement -that it's tastelessly blatant, that the milk spilling is silly etc.- but you're right that there is kind of a bothersome disconnect between the words and the video.
― centurionofprix, Thursday, 13 February 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link
The words and the video totally line up, it's just that the message is typical (women as objects) and gross (asking you to use them).
I did see some people talking about how "male gaze" the video is... but lots more who couldn't accept the change from "cute concept" to "sexy concept", so yeah. I'm okay making moral judgments here, aesthetically the song is fine, if not very interesting (because one-dimensional and (probably) dictated by management).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 February 2014 01:53 (ten years ago) link
The words and the video certainly line up to present the girls in that way but I'm not sure if that was the intent of the words, or the way the words would read on their own. I don't think there's anything wrong with an objectifying depiction of girls and butts (/abs or backs or whatever with boybands), and I don't think there's anything wrong with a song about being vulnerable in a relationship, rather it's the way the two come together in "Marionette" that is unsettling. I'm not communicating very well, but I meant in my previous post that I was coming around to the position that there is a questionable element to the MV, although it is not the one for which netizens at large seem to attack it.
Lines like
"Look at the broken me, a doll in pain from being torn by youLook, I’m still being dragged around by youMy deep scars are irreversibleI’m still in your hands, I’m that that that that that that that that doll"
aren't exactly asking to be used (and neither is the marionette metaphor about not having feelings, but rather about loss of control and having one's heart "dragged around", which the lyric treats as a deeply hurtful thing). FWIW, to me the problem here is the way the words come together with the video - the fact that the girls are objectified although they are singing about the pain of feeling like they are being treated like objects, without the MV doing this as some sort of ironic maneuver.
― centurionofprix, Thursday, 13 February 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link
Like, there's something off about the video but I'm still at a loss as to how to express it as anything aside from tainting the aesthetic/artistic unity of the thing. I had no problem with the video to "Love Song", for example.
(And this is still contingent on one's taking the promo clip and dance as a whole with the music in a very concrete way, which I don't think one necessarily has to do)
― centurionofprix, Thursday, 13 February 2014 05:05 (ten years ago) link
I got you. It's sadistic more than unfeeling.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 13 February 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
Lady cube, female rookie duo making electro, 'Just The Way You Are' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPbWKDeB_ug'I'm Singing For You' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iQoke3Bpg
― abcfsk, Friday, 14 February 2014 08:35 (ten years ago) link
Forgot about the embedding thing
I'm digging this
― 龜, Saturday, 15 February 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link
BTOB!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgtaSJ3PSMM
This song/video is perfect for this group.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 February 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
Speaking as a sort-of fan: This song is simple but SUPER upbeat, the dorky anti-idolness works so well for them, and I'm still laughing at how they combined the BTOB everyone knows from WOW (retro boyband and out-of-control) with the other side of BTOB (RnB harmonizing in suits like the ballad group they secretly are).
A little iffy on the lyrics (do we need *another* boy group to go abusive boyfriend-y after a breakup?), but I'll live. Illhoon's rap part was gr8, as always.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 February 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Brave Brothers, the title track on Sunmi's new mini is turrible but Who Am I isn't half bad.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 17 February 2014 04:29 (ten years ago) link
And Park Ji Yong's Beep, which also features piano as well as some hopefully-cleared clips from Soul Train.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
Surely you mean Seoul Train
― 龜, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link
If you look verrrrrrry closely, you can tell which clips are new and which are from the 70s television show.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 20 February 2014 01:13 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I like how they pull back on the 70s-broadcast-TV filter as the MV goes on, by the end it becomes pretty clear
Also wish I had a 70s-broadcast-TV-filter in my Final Cut Pro
― 龜, Thursday, 20 February 2014 01:14 (ten years ago) link
It's really well done... though the Koreans hamming it up for the camera are another clue...
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 20 February 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link
I'm very indifferent to this song by SPEED but the performance is off the hook, they're like a completely different group: http://youtu.be/IEfE6UyBDXk. Core Contents Media must be patting themselves on the back right now for hopping on board the "seven rappers in one group" train before it was trendy.
I can't remember if we've covered rookie group Kiss&Cry yet in this thread, but they're also killing it live: http://youtu.be/s4-7Lfjrc58
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link
In other music show news, I've been following the live performances of Some (Soyou x Junggigo) diligently because they have so little chemistry it's hilarious... so far they have resorted to singing with their backs to each other, singing from opposite sides of the stage, and taking turns singing and sitting in chairs to try to disguise their anti-chemistry, but no matter what they do it always shines through.
This latest performance isn't any better chemistry-wise but at least Junggigo is v. v. happy with their music show win yesterday (I speculate): http://youtu.be/rhi48uTir90
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link
New soshi has leaked and it's actually fairly decent. SM are in damage control mode but it's already spread like wildfire across the net。http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0aEhimdNRzUwNPF2p2EPqnLf4msBxBSH
― dash, Sunday, 23 February 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link
I'm gonna listen to the soshi album, but in the meantime:
http://youtu.be/PUMt9JwBO04
Second AlphaBAT single, like a more-listless Nilili Mambo. For a group with no obvious talents (apart from that one rapper guy - he's pretty good), their songs have been surprisingly on point.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 05:02 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncUiI4-Zf1Q
Interesting single from BTS that shows what happens when your aesthetic sense is more highly developed than your emotional maturity.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 08:26 (ten years ago) link
New 2NE1! Had to admit, my expectations weren't exactly sky-high given their past couple of releases but this is HUGE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OODTt2kahI0
Such a good album overall, loving this so much more than SNSD's latest. Very well-sequenced too. Full album here: https://soundcloud.com/wxygshowxyz
― Roz, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
Nice!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link
"happy" is wonderful
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
oh lol and here's "scream," just hanging out in the back of the tracklisting
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
Holy Shit :)))))))))
― 龜, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link
Deserves its own thread, obviously 2NE1 - Crush
― 龜, Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link
<3!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 27 February 2014 03:53 (ten years ago) link
I know it's hard to listen anything that's not 2NE1 right now, but these girls are good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3OoMbhuiHw
I personally welcome the new era of Aegyo Hip Hop.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 28 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
Also the new TVXQ is supremely enjoyable http://youtu.be/2rU_RZy2XhI
― abcfsk, Friday, 28 February 2014 07:53 (ten years ago) link
And BESTie! http://youtu.be/pAHVpMid5_Q
Per Teddy, it's probably 'instant' music... but it's really fun.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 March 2014 01:28 (ten years ago) link
MR MR return with MR MR (and great timing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgPeY_Km6h4
What do you guys think of the other MR MR now that the video's out? I appreciated what they were trying to with all the hospital shots and filters but it felt kind of disjointed to me, and the soporific vibe kinda put me to sleep >__>
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link
^^ahahahahahahahaha that is some shameless trolling. But um, for real though, I like this one better than the other MR MR (not sorry).
― Roz, Saturday, 1 March 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link
it's nice, right?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:29 (ten years ago) link
Unfortunate scandals and all, Mr.Mr are a good rookie group - I've enjoyed more or less everything I've heard from them so far.
― Roz, Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link
Has anyone actually heard the entire Lady Cube album?
I previewed it on iTunes but can't decide if I should get it.
― ∞, Saturday, 1 March 2014 04:52 (ten years ago) link
Girls Day Minah entering the duet field: http://youtu.be/2pXZG9aYvcw
Song is nice, very relaxing, Minah has a good voice. Rapper dude is nothing special but not offensive either... an enjoyable diversion on this cloudy Sunday morning.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 2 March 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
Neon Bunny's back! http://youtu.be/Y-muW8zyaNc
― abcfsk, Friday, 7 March 2014 08:16 (ten years ago) link
Video's private :( What's the song title?
Here's Gain's 24 Hours: ♥
Also enjoyed B1A4 covering an old g.o.d. song, and CNBlue's Can't Stop (might be my favorite song of theirs).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 9 March 2014 05:50 (ten years ago) link
Also, Simon D is gonna be co-CEO of Jay Park's AOMG label !!!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 9 March 2014 05:51 (ten years ago) link
Here's a different upload of Neon Bunny http://youtu.be/BWbK2DO5xKA
So good
― abcfsk, Sunday, 9 March 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
ty ty!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 9 March 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link
Great song & great video for RnB fans from Navi:
http://youtu.be/xTUmlXhETws
The white turtleneck + pencil skirt combo is making me nostalgic for EXID.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
G-Dragon and CL are on a track from the new Skrillex album (Soundcloud track at link).
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
Damn that's nice
― 龜, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med2XipHJJM
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 07:45 (ten years ago) link
Nice debut single from WINGS, big chorus of "i'm cutting my hair short" http://youtu.be/X0_1odmqmCM
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 08:46 (ten years ago) link