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gotta be that Rogue bacon maple lager, shudder

sleeve, Friday, 28 February 2014 01:22 (ten years ago) link

the worst be i've ever had was probably a taster of some sam adams one-off at a liquor store. it was like a sour dark beer, completely vile.
ghost face killah was bad.
mother funker was pretty bad.
i know people are into it but edmund fitzgerald was pretty bad imo
bad locals from startups/nanobreweries too numerous to list

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 February 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

oh yeah, I had a taster of that rogue/voodoo donut shit once, that was horrible

dan m, Friday, 28 February 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

Wound up going with Marstons. It's fine, not as oystery as i expected which i guess is a good thing. Went well with the mushrooms stuffed with crab i had with dinner, which was the idea.

james franco, Friday, 28 February 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

Agree that craft breweries need to cool it with the double entendres. I was gonna buy the flying dog tonight but just couldnt

james franco, Friday, 28 February 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link

Worst, supposed to be good beer is maybe DFH Indian Brown Ale for me. Couldn't take it. Sea Dog Blueberry Wheat Ale was bad too. OH. And Magic Hat #9 is vile. I know people where that is all they drink. Bud would be better.

Jeff, Friday, 28 February 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link

Agree x 1,000,000 on magic hat #9.

james franco, Friday, 28 February 2014 02:11 (ten years ago) link

Southern Tier Pumpking smelled exactly like vomit to me, I could not get past the aroma. I bought two bottles, too, based on raves -- ended up taking one to a holiday party so I could just leave it there.

Fakeprog Nilsson (Dan Peterson), Friday, 28 February 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link

Pearl Necklace at least is an Oyster Stout. You know, oysters and pearls and stuff. Does that count as a double entendre?

God, everything from these beer names to labels piss me off. The labels all look like something scribbled in the Trapper Keeper of some middle school Metallica fan, the names ... useless. Surly is the worst, name-wise. So useless.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 February 2014 03:14 (ten years ago) link

Haha ok surly has their moments but clearly flying dog is the worst at this

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Friday, 28 February 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

Also wrt oyster stouts, the 21st amendment marooned on hog island is stellar

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Friday, 28 February 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

Porterhouse oyster stout is great.

ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Friday, 28 February 2014 03:58 (ten years ago) link

based on memory the worst beers i've ever had have been the mcmenamins ruby ale (raspberry grossness), bridgeport hop czar (flirting with the grey area between double ipas and malt liquor) and this thing i had tonight from otherwise excellent brewery block 15, love potion #9 (more raspberry grossness, tasted like taking a rip from a hookah)

also had pliny the younger tonight! it was... good! i'm pretty glad i tried it, but it is far from my favorite of its style. it's impressively smooth and balanced, but it didn't really have that bold kick that you get from the more assertive double/triple ipas that can really set them apart if they have the right hop palette. i can see the extreme level of craft that goes into that type of drink, the almost complete lack of a nose is mind boggling considering how many hops went into that thing, and maybe i'm crazy but i kind of missed that awesome intense smell. i can see why something like that would impress a lot of people though, it really is pretty refined

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 28 February 2014 07:19 (ten years ago) link

21st Amendment (now that you mention it) watermelon beer was the worst for me (Magic Hat #9 a close second). When you buy a maple donut, mint chocolate, etc, type beer you know what you're getting into, so you only have yourself to blame.

nickn, Friday, 28 February 2014 07:31 (ten years ago) link

Yeah 21st amendment hell or high watermelon made me avoid them for years, but that is super unrepresentative of the rest of their beers. But it is stunningly awful.

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Friday, 28 February 2014 08:40 (ten years ago) link

There was discussion of Ballast Point Calico a ways back. I tried it last weekend and i echo the rave reviews. An excellent pale ale. Not sure that BP can do any wrong.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link

multiple xposts southern tier is generally pretty excellent, though i tend to stick to styles i know i'm going to like (christmas ales generally not being a style i like, with a couple exceptions). 2xone (brewed with one type of malt, one type of hop, etc) is in my fridge right now and is pretty great. their old man winter ale is fucking awesome, probably one of the best winter ale/strong ale types i've had in a long time.

marcos, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

worst beer i had in recent memory was a milk stout at some newish brewpub in brattleboro, VT, (not mcneill's, that place is amazing), it was flat and dull and fucking terrible.

marcos, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

milk stouts in general are not my thing

marcos, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

i'd rather have an oatmeal or imperial stout

marcos, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

I'm not a huge milk stout fan but recently had 4 Hands Brewing Chocolate Milk Stout. It was fantastic. Really roasty/chocolatey, but not overly sweet.

Jeff, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

Lancaster Brewing put out a double chocolate stout recently that I thought was delicious.

Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

Wisconsin, you're getting Solomon Oath http://www.brewbound.com/news/2014/solemn-oath-brewery-to-expand-distribution-to-wisconsin

Jeff, Friday, 28 February 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link

oh WAIT i forgot all about drinking dark horse uber boober (a cream ale made using baby formula instead of lactose, served via breast pump) at some beeradvocate fest a couple years ago. jesus christ.

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 28 February 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

^ terrible name, terrible concept, terrible way to serve a beer... really covering all the bases there

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 28 February 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link

o_O

dan m, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link

pro tip btw: do NOT gis "uber boober" at work

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 28 February 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

Served via breast pump seems like it would be impossible to forget!

Fakeprog Nilsson (Dan Peterson), Friday, 28 February 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

hahahaha

that sounds terrible

I should clarify that I did NOT buy a bottle of bacon maple lager, but I did have the misfortune of tasting it at a pub flight night like the example above, wtf was I thinking

sleeve, Friday, 28 February 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link

^ lol. multiple times people (usually visitors who don't know any better) have shown up to dinner parties with one of those things and everyone tries to be polite, "oh, cool... thanks", someone inevitably opens the thing and pours one glass, and the rest of the bottle sits untouched for the rest of the night

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 28 February 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link

KBS tickets on sale in 5 minutes. I've got a beer mule in grand rapids that will get me the allotment, assuming I can get a ticket. Which will probably sell out in less than a minute.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 March 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

When does it go on sale here, again?

dan m, Saturday, 1 March 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link

10 AM

Jeff, Saturday, 1 March 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

Oh, you mean the bottles actually here? It varies. Stores get them at different days/times.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 March 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

March 18th at Founders though.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link

Got my ticket. Nice that I won't have to hunt one down this year.

Jeff, Saturday, 1 March 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link

Picked up a bottle of Surly/3floyds/Real Ale BLAKKR. One of the better black IPAs I've had but I still don't particularly understand the style, I don't think.

dan m, Sunday, 2 March 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link

I have one in the fridge. Black IPA is just a hoppy dark beer to me. That sometimes tastes a little roasty. Not a particularly exciting style, but there have been several I've liked a lot. Really liked the Begyle/Dry Hop collab Johnny Quest Thinks We're Sellouts. Wooky Jack too.

Jeff, Sunday, 2 March 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link

Definitely hoping to taste the BLAKKR, there was a thing on the Decibel blog about that and it sounded pretty interesting.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 March 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link

out here we call them Cascadian Dark Ales, Oakshire makes one that is pretty good. My take was always "all the hop flavor along with nice dark notes, without the body of a stout or porter". When I've brewed this style, you use a little bit of very dark-roasted grains to give a disproportionately dark flavor w/o the full grain body.

sleeve, Monday, 3 March 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

Thanks to the poster who recommended the Otter Creek Citra Mantra. Awesome citrus-y hops taste in a light-bodied pilsner style. Very quaffable.

o. nate, Monday, 3 March 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

xps to j/v/c there were 2-3 cases of it on the floor at the Jefferson/Roosevelt Binny's on Saturday.

dan m, Monday, 3 March 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I see tons of "cascadian dark ales" around, haven't tried the Oakshire one yet but I'm not too huge into this style. I like porters and stouts that have a lot of body and not much hoppiness, so these never really sound great to me.

joygoat, Monday, 3 March 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

FWIW from Founders' website regarding non-GR KBS release: "KBS will still be released starting on April 1 in limited quantities throughout our distribution footprint."

dan m, Monday, 3 March 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

for whatever reason the flavor of rye seems to make black ipas/cascadian dark ales pop a bit more, wooky jack is a fine example of this. the balance has to be like sleeve described, mostly hops but with a bit of grains to emphasize certain flavors. a lot of times brewers go overboard with the dark grains and it becomes super bitter

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 3 March 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link

just learned about this site yesterday: http://www.barnivore.com/

i'm not vegan by any stretch, but i'm impressed at how extensive their database is!

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 3 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

BLAKKR seemed to be a good combo of hoppy and roasty. The initial flavor was almost all hops and the finish was almost all roast, like one of those flavor-changing gums/candies of yesteryear. I just don't know if shoving those two flavors together is a thing I like or not.

dan m, Monday, 3 March 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

i was curious abt blakker right up to the point where i saw the almost $20 price for a 4 pack of it

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Monday, 3 March 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

Oh see here it was in 22oz bombers for like $10.

dan m, Monday, 3 March 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link

...not that that's any better really :P

dan m, Monday, 3 March 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link


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