Neil DeGrasse Tyson's _Cosmos_

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I was going to say, aesthetically I'm ALL about that.

The tribute to Sagan was very moving.

I went back and watched the original series (the remastered one with the overdubs, I knew something was off) after catching the new show, and I have to say there's a lot more *information* in the old series, if you compare the first 1980 ep to the new first ep. The new one looks gorgeous (the Jupiter flyby) but I can't believe they'll ever go into a story as detailed and nuanced as the original Kepler-Brahe drama later on. I also prefer the historical reenactments to the animation, which seems less human and more idealized ...

I'm enjoying the new show for sure, it's gorgeous, but it seems less intentionally hectoring and tenacious as the original run. Sagan was definitely telling you you'd fucked up and exhorted you to get your shit together, and peppered you with a ton of facts per minute.

This is all tossed off after one ep, though. It might get better.

if he's talking about string theory multiverses then lol 90s physics. no body hires string theorists any more.

― caek, Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:29 PM (Yesterday)

lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mda_p1Sx1lE

the story about NDT meeting Sagan as a teenager was neat but it seemed out of place in the context of a 45min premiere ep, should have been a bonus online short or something

the CGI was gorgeous though, maybe my favorite CGI i've ever seen

The thing that's also inevitably different will be episode length -- full hour vs. 45 minutes.

Plus one would think that, scriptwise, 45 minutes straight through would be different from many brief segments that add up to 45 minutes

yeah ngdt reaches the right conclusions (imo) on string theory.

i just feel like he reaches them by being a stopped clock. he takes that ignorantly skeptical approach to other bits of astronomy and demonstrates pretty clearly that he either hasn't read or hasn't understood recent research.

Greene seems like a pretty chill dude

it seemed like allot of the material was the same as the sagan? I thought it would be new material - dicsoveries since the old one - some wild string theory shit

There are 12 episodes left.

are you saying these 12 other "episodes" will have "new material"???

I wouldn't bet a vital organ on it, but it's likely.

i'm sure they will get to the post-sagan stuff for which there is observational evidence (dark matter, dark energy, exoplanets, black holes, etc.)

string theory is not a part of astronomy or astrophysics.

the mass-extinction from an asteroid impact theory/discovery came after the original cosmos iirc

Yeah the Chicxulub crater wasn't properly identified until later in the 80's.

I hope stephens hawing comes flying in and rides of degreaasee toes and laughs

I much prefer NDT to the simpering contemptible shit Cox, he is very likeable and doesn't make me want to kick the tv.

gr80 otm, i think the alvarez paper is like 81 and the putative crater was known to an oil company in the late 70s, but the story didn't come together in public/become accepted until well into the 80s

i don't like any of these dudes except jacob bronowski

caek i love when you get all astronomist

in all seriousness, any one who liked the og cosmos and would like something similar to it, but about technology, and british, watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ascent_of_Man

ha ty xp!

Are there any pre-Cosmos Carl Sagan-hosted space specials out there?

huh

The 13-part series was shot on 16mm film. Executive Producer was Adrian Malone, film directors were Dick Gilling, Mick Jackson, David Kennard and David Paterson. Quotations were read by actors Roy Dotrice and Joss Ackland. Series music was by Dudley Simpson with Brian Hodgson and the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. Additional music includes, amongst others, music by Pink Floyd. Apart from Bronowski, the only other named person appearing is the sculptor Henry Moore.
Malone and Kennard later emigrated to Hollywood, where they produced Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Jackson followed them, and now directs feature films.

pink floyd in sagan's cosmos too

final scene of the ascent of man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjI3BXKBgY

"One Of These Days" was used in Cosmos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtj9kwQCltQ

I need to watch The Ascent Of Man. hfs at ending.

James Burke's Day The Universe Changed fits in here too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Universe_Changed

I'm enough of an old-timer to have a Mariner 9 picture of Mars autographed to me by Sagan himself so I'm way biased on this and will sound like a fucking middle-aged hippie.

I want to like the new series, but I wish they had gone in a different direction with the soundtrack. What carries a love of my love for the original series was just how iconic and future-ahistorical the soundtrack was and the new corny Disney-one makes Tyson more nerdy than cool-nerdy.

I think it's a triumph that MacFarlane and Tyson were able to just get this on broadcast television for 13 weeks. Sure, the score may be a little hokey, but I'm willing to live with some production concessions made for the suits just to be able to witness this.

o.g. score is ace, though. that's otm.

I guess I just wanted the music to be something more than just filler out of a KOMPACT5 library. One thing I love in o.g. is that when things go all powers-of-ten on you, Vangelis' "Alpha" is going to kick in.

I watched some PLanets show from bbc with the littlun last night and it was grand to see her wide eyed - space is neat

Elvis otm. You cannot top that Vangelis track.

have posted this link many times to several threads but it belongs here too: http://cosmic_voyager.tripod.com/cosmosindex.htm

I keep thinking about the lot of the string theorists. Trapped in futile bullshit for decades. I would never do that.

Why is all including NDT so hostile towards string theorists? Just curious.

I had the same question as Evan and found this article:

http://io9.com/5890789/the-trouble-with-string-theory

also this xkcd posted in comments there:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hipu0tf2q1spng/original.png

Before I jump into that article... How did they stumble on that initial idea?

Was it really a (mostly) random conclusion they're working backwards from?

Saw the stream of the new episode 1. The music is the least of the problems here; at best, I want to believe that its depthless tone is an intentional choice to reach a much larger audience than Sagan did with version 1. I want to support the project, I hope it does well, I might make it through one or two more episodes, but I also want to believe that even the most CGI-saturated 8 year old would still prefer the original show, even today, I just do.

Your probably wrong. 8 year olds would like neither.

whoever just ilxmailed me, the answer is kinda. i work in astrophysics.

I much prefer NDT to the simpering contemptible shit Cox, he is very likeable and doesn't make me want to kick the tv.

i am on record as having issues with cox but dear god ndt is irritating.

the crap effects didnt help him.

I find it difficult to dislike ndt, sure he isn't for everybody but he is more of a working presenter than Cox who seems like an overindulged solipsistic little shit, gurning away at himself in a mirror for a good living.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2wegmz8.gif

Daughter's initial skepticism was overcome within 5 minutes so I am into this

Her first comment: "why isnt he wearing a spacesuit?"

i thought i was watching a science show. and then he got into a space ship.

derp I was analyzing the names instead of reading the abstract. Almost everyone at the conf flew over 20 hours so this is true. I only had to fly 2 hours.

I just showed this to my spouse and he brought up that we spent a holiday in India for 3 weeks and went to Patagonia with the 8th author (which I totally missed, and he totally flies a lot too still).