Seattle! How is it now? Are there jobs? Should I move there?

haha i'm in DC and haven't had a job for six months

Donut's right, though, that for a long time there has been a sense of apathy in Seattle, a tendency taking things for granted. Traditionally, it's just not been a very "political" state. But that's changing out of neccesity, so it's an interesting time to be here.

As for the chances of the election getting overturned shrinking, well, the trial starts in May. We'll see what happens, but I'm not sure that time passing is making it any less likely; it just means I worry about it less.

Late to the thread here, but it's 74 and sunny here today, and there is NO BETTER PLACE TO BE.

Well, just because some spineless asshat manager at MS caves in to some local freaky preacher man, doesn't make Microsoft more "liberal" than Coors, necessarily. It's The Stranger's M.O. to make really shocking sensational headlines, and then have the story be far more detailed and less shocking than the headline.

I don't know how liberal or not Coors is.. but Microsoft hasn't stopped supporting same-sex/domestic partner benefits for its gay and lesbian full-time employees here. Microsoft basically did what any corporation these days would do when confronted by an angry mob of wacky fundamentalists: "OK, we'll pretend we're giving in to these wackos just to shut them up, even if it makes a few liberal wackos mad... the less trouble, the better". Capitalism has always bred this "neutral to the outside/progressive on the inside" standard in major corporations in western Washington state. It's been the M.O. for years. Had Washington Mutual been the target instead of Microsoft, they would have done the same thing, probably. Just wait a few months, now that the fundies "got their wish" and the gay civils right bill didn't pass, and all of this will be forgotten. Business as usual. :/

Trust me.. I thought it was an especially stupid thing for Smith to do myself -- especially, now that the Stranger has narrowed in on the large carcass to exploit it and give MS shit about it... and MS deserves it.

(p.s. Donut: I couldn't send you them akwid tracks I promised last night; will do sometime this weekend).

Grad school in the humanities: DONT GO. SERIOUSLY DONT GO. EVERYONE. IS. MISERABLE. & has Stockholm Syndrome.

Hehehe. I have to say when I left in 1996 I was glad never to have looked back.

In any case, Hutcherson said it wasn't the end of his efforts. Even though the bill failed yesterday, he plans to visit two other companies that endorsed it to express his displeasure. Hutcherson would not name the businesses. Companies that endorsed the bill include Boeing, Nike, Washington Mutual, Vulcan and Hewlett-Packard.

Great.

Another mini-sideshow surrounding the bill involved rumors that the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Seattle, which has opposed such bills for years, was neutral this year.

Interesting.

Anyway, sorry for polluting Daria's thread with this gar-bahge.

i guess what bugs me is that i feel a church should have more class... a converted retail store doesn't really set the right vibe for eternal salvation. some of these big suburban joints are hard to distinguish from targets or wal-marts, at least from a distance

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I must know who this is

Also, welcome to Seattle!

I wouldn't call anything west of 12th the pit of despair, but you are in highly-overpriced territory. Anything between 13th and 19th is probably a little nicer and cheaper actually.

Also, don't be afraid to go south of Pike St. Some friends of mine are super happy to have found a place around 17th and Union. (They moved from Austin, and apparently they bringing tons of their friends along to move here as well... which isn't surprising, given both are both smallish, centralized, tech-y cities... surely the same is happening with PDX as well.)

If you don't smoke, don't have pets, and don't mind a carpeted pad, your task will be a gazillion times easier to find a one-bedroom rental, speaking from experience.

the advice to walk and look around is the best thing mentioned on this thread. a great apartment next to my house sat open for 6 months because all the (lazy) landlords did was put a sign up on one utility pole.

As for a fap, it'd be fun to have one outside. play ping pong or croquet and drinkdrinkdrink. We must welcome A Lingbert!

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We have a croquet set in storage over there, and will gladly contribute food, booze, and cleanup labor.

Can you get those hats from Ebbets Field Flannels? I know they still make the Rainers one. But those Pilots caps are amazing!

Matos - so so otm.

I used to live in a big old haunted house in Madrona, but it's been years since I've been back. It'll be nice to be back.

Lots of great suggestions. I was only in Seattle for about 2 days last month, so I obviously didn't get to see everything, and my impressions of the areas are fairly vague. I decided on Captol Hill as my first choice based on some positive things I'd heard/read about it and the little of it that I saw. What sold me (at the time, anyway), I think, was the neighborhood leading down to Washington Park (I'm pretty sure I have my geography straight here, but maybe not). It looked so pleasant and green, but maybe that's a super-expensive area that I won't be able to afford anyway.

I thought Ballard was a nice area, but maybe a little far from things and maybe a little too tranquil. I liked Fremont a lot, but it seemed like a place to visit rather than live in. Upper Queen Anne seemed generally uninteresting and overpriced (though nice views, of course), but I'll definitely have to give Lower Queen Anne a good look. I don't know if I saw much of Belltown or Wallingford at all.

I'm also thinking I might have to finally break down and get a cell phone. If I'm going to be wandering around most of the time when I get there, I don't want to miss any calls from prospective rentals. 28 years I've avoided having one, but I suppose maybe it's time. Where does someone even shop for cell phones? Malls? My friend says he likes Sprint. I guess they have Sprint stores, don't they?

But yeah, I'd totally be down to FAP should one materialize.

I mean, the Funhouse, Seattle Center, Larry's, Easy Street, Pagliacci, Racha, Roti, Blue Water Grill, Mirabeau, Ladro, post office, Bamboo Garden, McMennamins, more thai... all within easy walking distance. I don't think Hollywood allows for this many places to be this walkable from one place -- having grown up in west part of L.A.

Then again, you said you'd rather visit than live there, and that's a very fair assessment of Fremont.. especially now. (I'm just riding out the construction issues)

anyway sorry, really, for being so blasé about people who are not KH losing their jobs, obviously justice would've been better served by her being fired for being bad

not sure if there’s a more active all-purpose thread about Seattle (there’s about 20,000 user-specific FAP threads in the archives and i didn’t want to create another one) so sorry if this isn’t the best place to ask this BUT:

i will be coming up to Seattle in a couple weeks (the 20th through the 24th). it is my second time visiting, but my first time was for a conference and i didn’t get to do much exploring then. anything fun/cool going on around that time? shows, events, exhibitions, etc? any particular restaurants/food that i absolutely must try? good record stores? ftr i am staying downtown and will not have access to a car.