i had no idea these remasters were coming out. i assume that carnage visors will be on the remaster of faith, which will be nice as i want to replace my tapes already!
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 10 November 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 November 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 10 November 2003 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 08:40 (twenty years ago) link
Crystal Palace Bowl, when they debuted Never Enough, it sounded awesome. I have the bootleg somewhere, come to think of it. And each remaster should def. have a live version of "A Forest" from that year.
― Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 10:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 10:37 (twenty years ago) link
Argh my fuckin' head's going to explode! You mean having lovingly collected all the albums on CD over eight years (Seventeen Seconds was the very first CD I ever bought - and I've just realised I made sure it was, just so I could say so in situations such as this), specifically bought the big empty black Wish-era box to put them all in, and now THE FUCKERS ARE GOING TO MAKE ME BUY THEM ALL AGAIN?
Where will it all end, I ask you? Did that sign say "Hell"? And what are we doing in this handcart? etc.
"Never Enough" is fantastic, of course - my copy's especially cool, since Simon Gallup gave it to me (my mate Higgy's mum used to walk her dog with Simon's wife, FACT!). "Harold & Joe"...mmm...
Anyone going to the London show in December?
Oh, and I've just realised why Hot hot Heat are so named...d'oh.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 14:56 (twenty years ago) link
― etc, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
http://thecure.com/albumimages/coverjtd.jpg
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:52 (twenty years ago) link
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 4 December 2003 08:26 (twenty years ago) link
― the curefox, Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link
I am stoked at the prospect of 2 CD remastered versions coming out this year, there is a lot of unreleased stuff out there that is worth hearing. Also they should get some kind of Dick's Picks (Ned's Picks?) thing happening, especially some of those foreign radio broadcasts from 80-82 Werchter/Lille/Hertford etc: They had an a great sound back then.
check www.skippyscage.com/mzui if anyone wants to trade some early Cure.
― mzui, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
I WOULD HAPPILY TRAWL THROUGH THE ARCHIVES OF THAT. Um, please.
My box set is on order at my Fave Local Record Store, and I will be picking it up this Friday.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
I read this whole post but maybe i missed this: anybody know if there’ll be duplication between the box and the future supplemental discs.
― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― mzui, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link
Mmmm.
― Muppet Boy, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
"A Japanese Dream" sounds as shitty and thin as it did from day one and I'm convinced they mastered all of the KMKMKM B-sides from a virgin vinyl copy, there's shitloads of clipping in the left track on most of them and they sound way too high in the 8KHz range. I have CD-R boots with the "New Mix" of "Icing Sugar" that sound better than the one on here. The 12" remix of "A Japanese Dream" is so many light years better it's ridiculous. Why even acknowledge this bullshit single-length take, it has no space, no bass, no pulse, nothing compared to the extended mix. The real treausres on this set are Clearmountain's dubious single-prep mix of "How Beautiful You Are" and "To The Sky" (apparently this settles that the superior "Resurrection" mix from the early 90s Unplugged boot Acoustic Daze is a pure bootleg mix?).
Disintegration remaster is going to sound amazing: "Babble", "Fear of Ghosts" and particularly "Out of Mind" are so much fuller - the track depth and clarity in comparison to the original mixes is unreal, it's like new songs. "2 Late" still sounds as dry and distant from the album as it did on the "Lovesong" single. Still most everyone's favorite b-side, a lot of folks' favorite Cure song. Too Smiths/REM for me.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
Chris, I have a 2nd gen monitor mix of All Cats Are Grey sneaked onto quarter inch during a break in recording by a tape-op, it's not a million miles different from the original but enough as to be of interest (tom placement, sfx at start and end louder) I could dig it out if yr interested.
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
(They stopped by yesterday, them UPS people, but when I was out and they need a signature dammit. So TODAY since I signed the slip. Grr.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link
Those Elvis Costello re-issues should be a yardstick for bonus beats, Get Happy! Just amazing!
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
What could we see beyond:
TIB: All the extraneous material from the 1st wave that wound up on BDC, maybe even "See the Children"? haha. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith relegates "Object" to disc 2...17 Seconds: peel sessions, live tracks - the demos wouldn't be that good, I would think they'd go for live stuff, the 17 tour was their first big one, some of their best shows. Prospect Hill!Faith: Carnage Visors, demos, unreleased tracks (back in the late 80s, a collector told me there were four or five songs from these sessions no one has ever heard - can you verify?), peel sessionsPornography: peel/jensen sessions ("Ariel"), demos, AIHTDIKH.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
As for live stuff, well I said it before but there should be proper releases of IMO:
Lille 81Arnheim 80Herford 80Werchter 81Zomerpop/Jaapeden Halle. Shortish, Dutch Radio Broadcasts 81Paris 82Japan or Washington 84
And thats just for starters, never mind all those BBC live concerts!
Wasn't Prospect Hill an audience jobbie?
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
However, i'm saddened to admit that I have no idea what that acronym stands for - care to share?
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
anyone got any live KMKMKM-era boots? I'd love a whole gig...
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
KMKMKM boots are terrible, I regret to inform you. Most of the ones I've heard are soundboards from American dates, and Boris was playing a heavily electronic kit. Sounds like a Yamaha RX-7 through a Boss pedal, really dead and flat. The most widely available KMKMKM boot is Santa Barbara CA.
"All Mine" is just Smith wanking on guitar, as he was wont to do before anthems ("Disintegration" during the prayer tour, he always does it before "Three Imaginary Boys"). "Forever" was a more structured, mounting improvisation based around a frankly boring riff that built to crescendo. It dates from The Top tour as far as I know, it was another way to get Porl's sax in there. They did it with Shellyan Orphan in 1989 at their supposed "Last American show ever - we mean it!", and it was pretty awful. Cure: not a jam band.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link
Cool, thanks.
The problems I'm having are with the guitar lines in the intro souding really shrill and distorted.
― AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Clearmountain mix of How Beautiful You Are; amazing! wasn't there some story that Clearmountain was hired to remix the whole KMKMKM album by the Cure's manager? i know he did all the singles too.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link