ooh touchy !it ain't about you, narcissus
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 March 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link
point was if you're making art that needs publicists (or, indeed grants) then, y'know while it might be great both the artists n that, to me it's bankrupt
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 March 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
er..great for the artists n that, like y'kna. cha
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 March 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
I didn't write the post in question so it clearly isn't about me, I just thought it was and is a dumb mischaracterisation of everyone involved. if you honestly think that any band who has someone else help promote their music is morally unclean then fine but I'm not sure ILM is really your ideal stomping ground tbh
― in my day this was all feels (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
"clearly isn't about me", ok debating-team captain.yes it is a dumb mischaracterisation of everone involved, y'think maybe on purpose? for fun?ffs
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 March 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
well I can't stand in the way of some #topbantz
― in my day this was all feels (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
actually i don't know - i've totally lost the plot. i say things, and then i don't actually have any clue why. it's all post-hoc justification. did i mean it, was it a joke? are my opinions, my values situationally determined from second to second? it seems that way.apologies for any inconvenience & I wish you all well despite random outbursts
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 March 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
oh i x-posted with your delightfully generous #topbantz insinuation.good work !
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 March 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if there are less arguments settled with fists these days because everyone fancies themself a master wizard of wit
― brimstead, Friday, 21 March 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
Yes the schoolyards are now clear of blood. All that can be heard is the sound of puns, obscure cutting references, well considered snark, elaborate asides and general glorious eloquence piled upon eloquence deciding who is top dog. I also note that the Ukraine situation has been thus far free of fists. Action movies are no longer relevant and boxing has lost it's former prestige. Even Mike Tyson prefers Twitter. Tis a golden age to be sure.
― Hinklepicker, Friday, 21 March 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
Hype is fun bc makes me feel part of something in distanced age of internet
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 22 March 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link
Yes. And what is meant by hype in this case? Seems to me it just means that 'Pitchfork likes it' + a couple.of other articles in supposedly influential publications. It's not like there are billboards everywhere, viral campaigns and well managed appearances on Ellen. This is pretty small scale hype I would say - 99.99 percent of the population has no idea this band exists. But I welcome a bit of excitement and hyperbole...if that's how it makes you feel then why not? I don't want to always feel jaded and cynical about new music despite that fact that age and experience are inevitably wearying. Remember how it used to feel?
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 22 March 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Yeah exactly, also age is a lot less wearying if you don't sit around whining all the fucking time
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 22 March 2014 01:09 (ten years ago) link
I like this band, fuck this thread
― Slight damage to cover on top corner (chewed by a kitten) (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 22 March 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link
lotta still spots on this album, posed moments of peacefulness
i like how the alongside stream of feedback and ranting makes the boring indie part seem chunky and purposeful
― j., Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
this isn't that bad
― markers, Sunday, 30 March 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
It's not bad at all. It's like your friend's band that's pretty good.
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 March 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
Wow, a really good friend band. Glowing endorsement.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 30 March 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
doubleplusgood or GTFO
― Yarli Simon (rattled), Sunday, 30 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
Just saw them but her mic wasn't working for the entire set. Like, you couldn't hear her at all for the entire thing. It was a bit weird, you'd think they'd stop the set and give her another mic. People kept glaring at the soundman but he just kept shrugging like he couldn't do anything about it. The soundman sent someone onstage to check the mics after they'd finished, and they worked OK for the headline band, so I dunno wtf that was about.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 2 August 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
♫ a candy-coloured clown they call the soundman ♫
― john wahey (NickB), Saturday, 2 August 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
Not at all? I've heard reports from shows on this (UK) tour that the vocals were way too low. I'm sceptical about some of those reports 'cause the vocals aren't necessarily that discernable on initial listens on the recorded material, and when I saw them last week in Brighton the levels seemed more or less similar to the records. They went down a storm in any case.
― Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 3 August 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
A few years ago I saw a Shoppers show in a basement where the bassist's amp wasn't working at all, but rather than wait until she figured it out they played a solid third of the set without her while she messed around with it helplessly. Meredith Graves really doesn't seem like she sweats the details
― Evan R, Sunday, 3 August 2014 01:17 (nine years ago) link
tbh I haven't heard anything by Perfect Pussy before, so maybe they are an instrumental band with a miming Bez dancing around in front, I did wonder.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 3 August 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link
This was how they were in Brighton
http://youtu.be/5t6sqV9ooXw
One of the things with the records is gradually hearing more of the lyrics I guess, it makes sense having the lyrics swimming in the middle of the mix. I've seen other clips of them live where the lyrics were more clearly audible though.
― Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 3 August 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link
That's what I kept thinking I suppose, she was obviously putting a lot into singing or shouting or whatever she does, it was quite unsettling that there was no sound coming out, and most of the music seemed pretty interchangeable noise guitars so the lyrics must be part of the appeal I assume. Maybe the people at the front could hear her through proximity but the gig was in the back room of a pub so I wasn't that far away.
I started wondering if it was some kind of art statement about the female voice being drowned out by males or something.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 3 August 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link
The venue manager just posted on FB - She had her hand totally covering the mic (Sound tech and I were listening through the headphones on the desk, nae vocals)
So yeah, dunno what that was about, but it was a bit shit.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 3 August 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
I saw them the other day in a basement and can attest that the either the mic wasn't working or the vocals were completely buried in the mix, such as it was. I heard vocals from other bands so I am assuming it's an aesthetic choice.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link
Perfect Vanilli
― calstars, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
Here's some noisy video I shot of the band playing Philly a couple weeks ago...
Video
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 09:55 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for making me put on the ep again, still love it, submerged vocals and all
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
opening band
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
Really really dislike the processing/muffling of the vocals in this band -- perfect example of once edgy thing becoming a well-worn trope.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
http://collection.eliterature.org/2/extra/v2images/waterson_trope.png
― look what you did, you lil durk (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I loved the 4 song EP, but I never have the urge to play the debut album.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
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― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
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Ha, I had already forgotten I had seen them
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
I haven't, because they are the answer to "who was the shittest band you saw this year?"
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
I think this piece from the singer may answer some of the questions about low vocals:
http://thehairpin.com/2014/11/never-too-much/
The first time in my life that people have paid attention to what I have to say and it's threatening to take my voice away for good.
― sleeve, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
just saw them play outdoors in 19°F weather.
http://i.imgur.com/zNzxRvZ.png
overall the sound was shitty, but the vocals were as upfront as you'd expect from any band
― gr8080, Sunday, 1 March 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
I love the energy but my attitude toward the vocals varies - I think the effect works amazingly well on "Interference Fits" when the first thing you really understand is "since when do we say yes to love?"
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link
homage to them in the new "House of Cards" season.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:07 (nine years ago) link
separate from the Pussy Riot stand-in or did that also reference PP? (I've only been able to half concentrate on this season, not explicitly trashy enough.)
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 1 March 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link