I love Nirvana. But I HAVE to say Francezj Farmer is a drag. Too repetitive. is orc as relive go sag jay retard is better?
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 22 March 2014 11:35 (ten years ago) link
Yes?
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 22 March 2014 11:46 (ten years ago) link
I'm going to have to ponder that question for a while
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Saturday, 22 March 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link
Quite a few disposable ones in the middle of Incesticide (I really like Aero Zepplin but seem to be the only person in the world who does).
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link
Hating "Scentless Apprentice" is positively mental
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:16 (ten years ago) link
Well apparently my question was not clear: Is orc as relive go sag jay retard is better?
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 22 March 2014 22:30 (ten years ago) link
What Neanderthal said. Scentless Apprentice is incredible, probably in my top 5 Nirvana songs (not that I have a top 5, but y'know). It's one of the harshest and heaviest rock songs ever released on a major label. An incredible performance all round. In some ways it terrifies me more as an adult than it did as a teenager. While I can't claim to have experienced anything like the darkness Kurt was going through, a bit of life experience makes that howl of rage all the more chilling. It's incredibly exciting too: Grohl's finest hour on drums, while Krist's bass - a much underrated but absolutely crucial component of the Nirvana sound - is sludgy and sleazy and grinding and grim.
Mexican Seafood is fun, especially its Sweet Emotion riffing breakdown, but Hairspray Queen is totally great. As a 14 year old listening to Incesticide for the first time I was like WTF? at HQ, but I soon came to love it. Blasting it just now and it sounds fantastic - a weird kinda Gang Of Four-on-very-nasty-drugs meets The Melvins or something. Kurt's guitar playing is great on it. It certainly opened my ears to some weird shit.
There are some pretty poor b-sides and rarities. I remember pals proudly brandishing their Outcesticide bootlegs and insisting such and such a half-assed demo was the best Nirvana song ever. But I gotta say You Know You're Right is a mediocre song and the SOUND of it is just wrong. Apparently Kurt used Grohl's guitar set up cos he didn't have his own stuff with him, and it just sounds shitty.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Saturday, 22 March 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
the best songs on In Utero are the most tuneful. "Serve the Servants" is messy sounding for instance but it flows in a way "Scentless Apprentice" doesn't. head-thudding riff imo
― nova, Sunday, 23 March 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link
The melodic songs on In Utero are great too. That album nails both the loud and quiet, melodic and noisy.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Sunday, 23 March 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link
mental. that riff is perfect - the sloppy, chromatic ascending riff into the battering ram singular chord, then the tension building prior to Kurt's shrieking in the chorus....chills. the concept behind the song makes it pretty terrifying, too. it's like they took some of the moments that were B pluses on Bleach and perfected them with this tune.
I mean compared to actual "noise" rock that shit's pretty tame, in terms of accessibility.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 March 2014 05:13 (ten years ago) link
"In Bloom"(no, I'm not kidding)― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:03 PM (8 years ago)
(no, I'm not kidding)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:03 PM (8 years ago)
Good job, 2005 me. I was just about to chime in with that again.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 23 March 2014 05:15 (ten years ago) link
'Scentless Apprentice' fucking rules. One of my favourite ever Nirvana tracks, that.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
the intro is pretty badass, I'll give it that
― nova, Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link
Plus it soundtracked this so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpNtVtXvSo
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 23 March 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link
Hairspray Queen is totally great
Yes, what a brilliant weird mutant of a track.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 24 March 2014 02:20 (ten years ago) link
But I HAVE to say Francezj Farmer is a drag. Too repetitive.
And this is nuts. It's dynamic as hell, and has one of Kurt's best choruses.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 24 March 2014 02:30 (ten years ago) link
opinion
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 September 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
NO RECESS― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:34 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Last time I listened to Bleach one of the songs really stuck out as especially forecasting Puddle of Mudd style post-grunge radio dreck and I think it may have been this one.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
Never heard a song from this band I would willingly listen to again
― help computer (sleepingbag), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link
Might've been interesting to hear a fully realized band arrangement of "opinion" but the acoustic solo version is kinda whatever.
"Beans" posing as a standalone Nirvana song on the boxed set never made much sense to me. Imagining it as part of a weirdo Cobain bedroom cassette alongside "Clean Up Before She Comes" and "Polly" gives it some much needed context IMO.
― billstevejim, Monday, 21 September 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, "Opinion" is just juvenile in the worst way. Also, this is funny:
because, around '96-'97, a cover of "School" by a forgotten "post-grunge radio dreck" band called Another Society got a lot of play on the local "Active Rock" station in the Boston area. Actually, based on their one other song that got some play on the same station, I'd say the band straddled the nebulous border between post-grunge and nu-metal. Nobody ever really talks about Nirvana's influence on nu-metal, but I think everyone knows it's there. Attitudinally is obvious enough - Kurt's frank self-loathing and disaffection with the testosterone pumped up and minus his saving wit - but I mean musically too, and deriving from "Bleach" especially. I'll bet Korn and Staind stole a ton of ideas from that record.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
"In Bloom"
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:15 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Good job, 2014 me. I was just about to chime in with that again.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 September 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
god i wish jack endino got the chance to remix the tracks he recorded on incesticide. "beeswax" is such a killer song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0IC1uQjHMY
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
New Wave Polly is the worst by leagues
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Friday, 26 May 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link
New Wave Polly is awful but my hipster opinion is that "smells like teen spirit" is the one that actually ruined the band by becoming bigger than them. It became such an anthem that it made Nirvana "the most important band of their generation" effectively putting so much pressure on them that it ended up destroying them.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 26 May 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link
On the other hand: if it weren't for the success of that song we wouldn't have the intense trainwreck of In Utero that is amazing at capturing that self destruction and frustration of having everyone dissecting your every move and expecting another "smells like teen spirit pt 2".
Going off topic but it reminds me of Radiohead and Creep. Nirvana retaliated with "Rape Me" (a blatant copy in the intro riff and a fuck you in live performances of people expecting them to play the song). Radiohead expressed their frustration with "My Iron Lung" and OKC.
Both In Utero and OKC wouldn't exist without that pressure.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 26 May 2017 07:04 (six years ago) link