DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

Tom Watson's a lovely guy but if he's the Left Wing of the party now then i haven't got enough time to type out all the "ha"s

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-claims-jesus-invented-the-big-society--he-is-just-continuing-gods-work-9250449.html

can't believe a politician is interpreting Christian doctrine to suit their own agenda

can't believe a politician is interpreting Christian doctrine to suit their own agenda

Of course but in 2014 it just seems even more vulgar. Have to concede that at least he's not using it justify killing people (directly)

Is it worse when they actually believe it or when it's like this, whatever this is

I take whatever solace I can find in the fact that we can never truly know the difference.

i'm not calling any ilxer on this so much as goggling that enough cretins voted for a cunt who's pulling rhetorical gestures with a 2000 year plus heritage

Pensioners could get life expectancy guidance

The kid who plays Joffrey in Game of Thrones - I'm sure he's basing himself partly on Cameron.

Pols finding God is a worry, especially when it's not linked to getting their kids into better schools but wtf @ this

the prime minister's constituency office called the police when one of the country's most senior bishops visited last week to deliver a letter about food poverty

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-row-over-christian-values-food-poverty-104252415.html#9ZKayZt

David Cameron's eldest daughter is nearly 10, so God has presumably been bothered to butter up the governors of Grey Coat Hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27208966

UKIP just might win a seat after all (briefly)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27202753

Mr Henwood, who is on the council candidates' list in Enfield, told the BBC: "I think if black people come to this country and don't like mixing with white people why are they here? If he (Henry) wants a lot of blacks around go and live in a black country."

UKIP still weeding out these troublesome racists who aren't representative of the party.

United Kingdom, 5/1/14, 1Part 1 & Part 2.

Still, fastest growing economy in the known universe, innit.

Bugger it... Part 1 and Part 2

Oh buggeration! 1/5/14!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-20773800

Another week, another UKIP arsehole.

Shocking and wrong, etc. - but isn't that story from 2012?

Gah fuckin facebook shares when will I learn?

Ok we'll settle for this arsehole instead

On Wednesday, UKIP financier and Greek shipping tycoon, Demetri Marchessini said he didn't believe rape could take place in a marriage because when "a woman accepts, she accepts." He also said gay people couldn't be in a loving relationship, as they are sexual predators incapable of fidelity.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/04/ukip-asian-labour-voters

"Yes, immigration is a big issue for me here," she tells him, adding she will now consider voting for Ukip. "When our family came here in the 70s they got no help. We had to work for everything. It is all different now."

"It was ok for my family to come here but not yours!"

ah yes, the 70s, that Dickensian era of no benefits or social services

Indeed. UKIP: Attracting thickoes not matter their race, creed or colour.

'no matter' of course. Also. no mention of there being near full employment and vast numbers of cheap council housing in the 70s I see.

it does make it difficult to challenge a party's claims/manifesto commitments when they're woven out of fairy dust.

UKIP is just the latest example of how voting is an essentially emotional experience with little appeal to so-called rationality. but then, by positioning yourself as a rationalist you are forced to make claims to objective truth which are open to challenge as questions of opinion, i.e. really the problem is just pushed back a further layer.

because in the end there isn't an objective truth about how states shd be governed - there's just you, and your enemies, and how to deal with that conflict

i.e. debating right wingers achieves nothing, worse than that it legitimizes their game. the secret of political power is either to sidestep, paralyze or crush the enemy.

Farage is reasonably astute here: he's creating a narrative wherein no matter what dishonest, stupid or evil think his candidates say, it can be subsumed into the "persecuted by smartarse metropolitan snobs who don't know what REAL LIFE for WORKING PEOPLE is like"

what campaign material have ilxors received? who are we voting for? who isn't voting?

i'm not voting, a decision i might review if it turns out there's a Green candidate

i mean, their probably is one, but they don't seem to be working for any hearts and/or minds round here

Farage's formula is rather brilliant. A party that is right-wing in outlook but not explicitly tied to old money / the banking classes can't help but pick up support from disaffected voters. The idea that middle-class, middle England types would naturally flock to a Tory party increasingly dominated by the 0.1% always seemed a little shaky. Their lack of coherent policies and activist base comprised mostly of completely reprehensible scumbags means they'll only be a Euro / local protest vote for the moment, but if he can fix that, he can probably pick up 10% of the GE vote on the reg.

Socially conservative / financially conservative Asian ppl voting for a party that concentrates on closing immigration routes from Europe isn't a great shock either, particularly given the great lengths all the other parties have gone to in closing immigration routes from Asia already.

I got loads of stuff from Labour about saving the British pound and being better together and nothing from anyone else.

Have received one (1) UKIP leaflet, one (1) Conservative leaflet, that's it. Will vote Green, who might have a shot at getting an MEP here.

I just got the citation-lite UKIP thing, but I delivered a load of the somewhat odd hope not hate mini-newspapers at the weekend. I'm not sure how former city-boy farage has avoided being seen as part of the banking class

Probably have recieved something but I never take any notice of junk mail

Noticed a lot of UKIP billboard posters in Birmingham while travelling through it (and a lot of I'm Voting Liberal Democrat type guff in rural Cumbria/Lancashire!)

Just got a leaflet from No2EU through the door. Didn't realise they were lefties; though the idea that a UK outside the EU would protect trade union rights feels a bit optimistic.

I'll vote green. gotta admit the front national badges look p good

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/74579000/jpg/_74579557_lepenmontel.jpg

Only UKIP stuff. It's the only thing I hear about over here, not to mention the huge number of billboards etc.. Makes me wonder whether the other parties are even trying in this area.

weirdly there's about 20 different versions of the White England Kill All Outlanders parties standing round the country, will be interesting to explore their ideological differences when i get a few minutes

Will almost certainly vote Green. Those who choose not to vote should really reconsider or else spoil their ballot as a last resort.

people shd be free to live in whatever fantasy of influence helps them thru the day

ppl who vote in general elections but not EU elections are the most disgusting savages of all

had ukip flyer through door, and visit from labour councillor. can't imagine tories have much hope for or interest in broadwater farm tottenham tbh. i'm voting labour.

The green candidate in my council ward is called Dick Venes, and that's enough to win me over from spoiling the ballot. Will probably vote green in the Euros as well. Looking forward to finally being rid of Nick Griffin but the fact that he'll be replaced by a UKIP candidate ruins the effect somewhat.

we've already got this guy

http://www.paulnuttallmep.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Paul-Nuttall-Cricket-300x225.jpg http://www.paulnuttallmep.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Laura-Lacole1-224x300.jpg

had the UKIP booklet through, and a skinny leaflet from lib dems.
if there is a green candidate (suspect there will be as this area seems to be pretty involved with the green party - their deputy lives in the nearest town), they will be getting my vote.

as there are only 12 regions for the whole of the UK I assume the greens are standing everywhere