Rolling Philosophy

are they the ones who coined 'accelerationism' or is that some outside thing?

god, speculative realists, bleh

I'd never heard of it before!

i hear it a lot but i thought it was connected to, like, the singularity, and who can be bothered to investigate such things

i have a slight feeling you may though.

― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:35 AM (2 days ago)

I know eeeeeverybody. Though yeah. But my more general thing here is attacking this common tendency (not at all to accuse you of anything here) of devaluing the female side of male-female duos in philosophy.

re accelerationism, it comes from the CCRU and Nick Land especially, associated with an odd right-Deleuzian vs left-Deleuzian thing that took place at late '90s Warwick - Land being in the right camp and pushing for a kind of hyper-capitalism that tears itself apart. Then Land lost his mind and is now a bizarre white supremacist. It's been picked up again recently by leftists like Srnicek and Williams but it is still I think deeply ~problematic~ and at times a bit scary sounding, despite the good intentions this time around. The volume that's on it that's going to be released on Urbanomic comes with a bottle of accelerationism hot sauce, which is a very good gimmick imo.

oh is land one of those uh i forget, goole is into them, dark conservatives or deep conservatives or whatever? i think there was a guardian article about them.

yeah that kind of thing. The story of the CCRU is interesting and they produced a lot of good work, though some of it seems almost comically dated now. ILX favourite Simon Reynolds put together a little account of them: http://energyflashbysimonreynolds.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/renegade-academia-cybernetic-culture.html

While there's a bit of neoliberal dodginess to some of their stuff I don't think Land getting to where he's gotten was a natural conclusion of their work, I believe at some point he had a very clear mental break at which point everybody decided to stop associating with him.

fwiw i've known who aps was for years now and don't know if i've ever heard of the other person. but i'm not in yr world. just an observer mostly although now a few of 'em are following me on twitter (not him tho)

very brief emails w/ a few phil blog ppl and i think i donated like $10 to help aps or someone go to a conference in like 2010

talked to rm @ urb4n0m1c abt their rss feed once too

as you can see, i am very important

I believe the term is "dark enlightenment" but I could be wrong.

http://media.vocativ.com/photos/2013/12/Dark-Enlightenment-041010102874.png

ya markers i understand and as i say i don't wish to question yr noble character, i just feel the personal need to see due credit given to women in philosophy.

it would be nice to laugh at the dark enlightenment ppl on account of them being ridiculous nerds but they're just too creepy for it to really work, it's hard to be amused by people suggesting that the way forward for humanity is "total NAM [non-Asian American] removal".

the actual "reasoning" behind most of it is pitifully facile but yeah, a virtual fascist is still a fascist

non-Asian Minority*, obvs.

Land's own recent writings try to maintain the screen of academic objectivity and thoughtfulness and for the most part seem discomfiting rather than outright outrageous, for judgement purposes it's convenient that his followers and associates are less careful in that way.

Wow that Reynolds article is quite a time capsule!

piketty book's mad discounted on amazon right now. like, 24. yikes. buying.

also he's coming to the harvard bookstore next month for the zero of you who will be in the area

what know ye of L.E.J. Brouwer?

The story of the CCRU is interesting and they produced a lot of good work, though some of it seems almost comically dated now.

I knew a CCRU type when I was a postgrad in the later 90s, & tho' I liked him – interesting, funny, v clever etc – a lot of it seemed comically dated then tbh. We lacked common ground because I wasn't theory-minded but i felt like much of the aesthetic instantiation of (post-)modernity/futurity looked like slightly silly noodling cybergoth stuff.

What happened to those types - specifically Sadie Plant? She just seemed to vanish with the millennium.

(I can see, as per articles upthread, what happened to Nick Land and woah).

I know much of Brouwer, have a look at this for a deluge of mysticism, solipsism, and misogyny. pretty far out

yeah i was reading that earlier. i like it. this month's philosophy club is about his maths, tho i don't really know what form it'll take yet.

nb: not repping for solipsism and misogyny obv but his anti-capitalist mysticism is interesting and appealing and there is a lot of proto-environmentalist stuff in there too.

this is one of the classic introduction to Brouwer's mathematics, written by his student Heyting

sweet, thanks. assuming there will be talk of intuitionism which, from a brief overview, feels close to a position i wd get with

the first piece I posted is hilarious b/c it was to be in his MATHEMATICS dissertation but his supervisor said hell no

nobody ever told me about that!!! my education was a sham

how long ago did academic books become piratable? it's very, very easy to find a copy of brassier's nihil unbound or metzinger's being no one online for free

that being said, i once payed for brassier's book when it was a $99 hardcover

(winter 2009ish, the paperback wasn't out yet)

neither of the books i listed are open access either. one's on palgrave and the other's on mit press

Wait is that the Fixed-Point Brouwer?

xp what do you mean 'piratable'? i'm sure students have been passing around photocopies since photocopiers existed, the phenomenon of uploaded pdfs (with an accelerating move from scans of varying quality to shiny ebooks) seems to have really escalated in the last five years. and now just about everything is available.

yup, that's fixed point Brouwer!

xpost i wasn't saying anything particularly interesting. from, like, idk, 1999-2010 i pirated music, while spending a lot on cds too, but i never even went looking for ebooks too much until recently. obviously it's a little different for someone to photocopy all of being no one vs. just typing the title and the word "pdf" into google and getting the thing into a pdf app on yr ipad in seconds for reading and annotation. i don't know if it's harder to find more mainstream stuff like hemingway or harry potter, but it does seem easy enough to find at least some of the academic works that i'm interested in; i found a sellars article, a churchland article, and the two books i've mentioned, and i'm sure there's tons more out there. how they actually get there is another deal. does someone actually scan all of less than nothing?

for what it's worth i bought a new bookcase early this year and intend on buying another one, and i just spent $25 on the piketty book, so i'm not killing publishing by downloading this stuff, especially since i'm going to end up buying the brassier and metzinger books sooner or later, almost definitely in paperback

my friend and i photocopied zizek's violence for a reading group once in 2009

is brassier really good? i read a short article by him in a collection and it was ok.

does someone actually scan all of less than nothing?

quick answer is yeah (though perhaps not less than nothing itself as that was quickly available in ebook form), there's enough of a community rejecting the absurdities of academic publishing for people to spend a lot of time scanning and sharing. you're definitely not killing academic publishing by downloading stuff, they have some of the highest profit margins around. (if you errrrrrm happen to be interested in an excellent source of research materials, dm me on twitter?)

xps
5 years sounds about right - i always thought of aaaaarg as being a launch point for academic book-sharing - & it gave me the impression that a lot of ppl online seemed driven on principle to get theory, especially, circulating.

when i got my book contract from an academic press i immediately did the math on the royalties and found out that i'd need to sell 20 million copies to be a millionaire. *crosses fingers*

merdeyeux, expect a dm tonight! (thanks)

i don't mind paying for the books. i don't own much and don't care too, except for my books.

ryan i'll read your shit as long as it isn't one of those hundred dollar p4lg4v3 or r0ut13dg3 deals. make sure to tell us when it's out

oh, and i think i read br4ssi3r's doctoral thesis a few years ago. it's out there, legally, for free. look for "alien theory."

nihil unbound i've skimmed. it looks real good.

is that the one he's since disowned?

in my experience, the press I'm with isn't terrible about prices. pleased that they are one of the few doing ebooks as well.

xps woof already mentioned the site i was being (probably unnecessarily) hush hush about, but you do need to be invited to it nowadays, so if you're not already on it send me yr email address and i'll do the rest.

btw markers another answer to your 'how do things get pirated' question is that in our circles the authors are generally as against the pricing of academic books as everybody else is, so they'll often happily distribute their final pdf copies from the publisher if they're confident it can't be traced back to them.

hint hint ryan.

haha hint well taken! I doubt it'd be in hot demand but couldn't hurt to broaden its accessibility.