Future - Honest (2014)

le goon (J0rdan S.)
Posted: April 10, 2014 at 6:40:06 PM
this album is good, definitely feels weirdly minor though

ysi?

watermark, breh

only kendrick and YG have really gone for that sort of album.

I overstated the prevalence of single-narrative albums, but a lot of young rappers are going for this kind of message storytelling on a smaller scale right now. There's a lot of it in most of the recent TDE releases, Schoolboy Q and Isaiah Rashah, and in Chance the Rapper and Childish Gambino and all those guys. Lots of those acts are doing this stuff well, obviously, but right now a lot of acts seem invested in making "important" rap albums when making a really good one is an equally admirable feat imo

i don't particularly like the schoolboy album to me but i don't see how that one fits in... chance either

i mean they're long and i guess ambitious in a sense but i'd rather that than 12 songs personally

the andre song is good but... weird. not aesthetically, it just comes from a weird place. andre is good on the hook at least. i'm not sure anyone turned off by his recent verses is gonna find much to turn around on.

yeah I'm having difficulty recalling a verse from him after 2007 that I've dug. Well "Royal Flush" and the C4 interlude were cool actually

but the good thing is that it doesn't have the feel of ***NEW ANDRE 3000*** verse where he rambles for like 90 seconds straight

The crux of the Schoolboy album is a two-song message track about drug abuse, "Prescription/Oxymoron," clearly modeled after "Good Kid"/"Maad City." It's like he condensed the Danny Brown album into 7 minutes. Feels like a lot of post-GKMC albums really lean hard on a thesis.

snippets have totally deflated my anticipation for this album. Literally sounds like 2 dope songs on the whole thing, possibly 3 because I can't really tell what the Drake feature's like from the clip. Dude's debut has some stuff that's a step below but I can pretty much play the whole thing bar "Tony Montana"

man

i haven't listened to the snippets but i can guarantee you there is more than 2 dope songs

there's 2 wack songs

fuck a snippet

lol may be picky. Initial impression is a bunch of hollow attempted bangers though. My iTunes-sample predicting abilities of whether I'll like the full song are usually pretty accurate, but 1:30's a good amount to go on

other than title track "I Be U" sounds purdy

This album is awesome uoeno

Streaming now: http://www.complex.com/music/2014/04/future-honest-stream

Wait, this stream doesn't have "Benz Friends".

<3

Wow this is phenomenal

I love ballad-mode Future so much.

So "Benz Friends" and "Special" are on the album, just not on this stream, correct? Or did the tracklist get shuffled?

it seems like they're on the album but being held back from this stream

help a dummy out: the repeating female vocals in the first track, is that a sample and if so, what is it? or no?

"Never Satisfied:" watch out "Beach Is Better," there's a way doper pointlessly short Mike Will Made-It track in town

That fade out in "Never Satisfied" has to be stream-only, right? It's so distracting

on the stream they sent me (which had "special" -- which is amazing -- and "benz friends") "never satisfied" also fades out before the 2 min mark

they did play a full version of that track at a listening thing though \(o_O)/

lol Drake was like "we're cool, you can stay on the tour...i'm not gonna be on the album unless the song is too short to be a single though"

help a dummy out: the repeating female vocals in the first track, is that a sample and if so, what is it? or no?

― alpine static, Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:00 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's santigold from this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhL_asWgVTg

Gah, not knowing what the "right" version of an album is drives me nuts. I always wonder how many album reviews are written around early or incomplete versions of an LP, or leaks with patent flaws or terrible sound or whatever

i feel like that used to happen more often back in the day, stuff like The Source's early review of Nas's I Am, than it does now in the internet era when it's pretty easy to tell if a tracklist hasn't been finalized yet and you don't need a long lead time to get a timely review out there

I feel like with the Internet what gets reviewed is the first thing that leaks, and often that first leak isn't all that good. A few years ago everybody reviewed a version of Take Care that was missing a song, because that was what they had. Then last year everybody reviewed a version of NWTS with atrocious sound. For a lot of people, critics and listeners, that crappy leak will be their only exposure to that album

thanks J0rdan...

after downgrading my expectations for the past few weeks, i'm digging this p hard

hmmm I listened to that crappy leak of NWTS I think. can't say I'm compelled to revisit though

i remember American Gangster leaked missing 1 or 2 songs and i wrote a whole article about it based on that and then finally the day of my deadline the last bit of the album surfaced and i was so relieved i could make some small adjustments.

yeah it was missing "Party Life" AKA the GOAT Jay flow iirc

lol i haaaaate that song

I love ballad-mode Future so much.

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there really isn't much at all of that though, is there? "I Be U" is cool but i always figured he had some "Turn On The Lights"/"Neva End" level stunner in the chamber.

the new bonus tracks are all ballads

"i be u" is my fav track on the album i think

ah i didn't realize this stream has the bonus tracks, "Side Effects" is nice

yeah, disappointed in this besides title track, "I Be U" and Mike Will 2-Minutes...not necessarily a bangers vs. ballads issue cuz I dug both on the previous but the former all feel very empty to me

am still interested in hearing all of "Benz Friendz" out of curiosity for Dre's verse assuming he spits one

Y'all can read my Future feature, which dropped today!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/future-how-hip-hops-paranoid-android-became-a-robocroon-superstar-20140415

That fade out in "Never Satisfied" has to be stream-only, right? It's so distracting

― Evan R, Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:07 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or just doing a "birthday cake"

help a dummy out: the repeating female vocals in the first track, is that a sample and if so, what is it? or no?

― alpine static, Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:00 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Amadou and Mariam

his pr just told me the drake track fades out on the official album

wow that's gimpy.

re:"My Momma," does Wiz always suck this bad? I haven't really been paying attention. although I guess his verse isn't "Bugatti" remix-level epic trainwreck

pretty much, yes

Loving this.

Trust Lil Wayne to fuckin ruin the previously great 'karate chop' with his usual shitshow.