HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

That was one hell of a bombshell to drop two episodes into a season but I suppose it was also like 3/4 of the way through a book. Proper grisly Jim Robinson type death scene as well.

Also there is no way in hell that Shae got on that boat, or at least left on it.

Considering he can INHABIT THE MINDS OF WOLVES Bran is one hell of a boring character.

faithful to the books on that one

Yeah I wish there was some momentum there. Worrying they'll just trudge along forever in the snow until he finds another tree to give him more clues.

http://www.mastersofthehunt.com/images-pm/teen-treasure-hunt.jpg

yeah, that storyline is a bummer because it always seems like it's leading in a more promising direction, but his mad dream skillz seem to function more as a deus ex machina. like in last night's episode, they're wandering north in search of...something. suddenly the tree pours angel dust into his throat, he freaks out, wakes up and says he knows where to go now. it's just not satisfying

not like he got their with any clear aim (that i can recall) either tho.

It only took me ten minutes at work this morning to accidentally learn who did it. Sheesh.

i was 90% sure right off the bat and a coworker pretty much confirmed it for me today (except for one party being involved i did not expect)

Why wasn't Littlefinger in the episode?

so who's king now

i was wondering about that too. i imagine they'll have a courteous and frank discussion early on in the next episode and make an announcement that will anger no one.

The little brother seems logical? Not like he'll be doing anything with the title.

Joffrey has a little brother? man, for all the murdering that goes on on this show there are STILL too many characters

if my charts are accurate, I think it falls to Varys

my guess is Tywin rules until the little lannister comes of age?

Yeah his little brother was the kid that found himself laughing at the offensive play then realized he was sitting next to Tyrion.

Does anyone have to come of age?

I mean Tywin rules from behind the scenes regardless of age so unless there is an age requirement for being King I'd guess it'll be the little bro.

Tommen will be king, Cersei regent, and Tywin will be the hand and actual most powerful person in King's landing.

Much as he was anyway.

shae's accent is so annoying + she's still the worst actor on the show.

Think this might be more down to the character than the actress. Sibel Kekilli was amazing in Gegen die Wand.

maybe, but she does painfully bad line readings

Carice van Houten is amazing too but she's never done much for me as whatsername

one of the better wedding gigs for sigur ros

enjoyed them cutting from theon's pained face to tyrion sausage feast

and of course

http://24.media.tumblr.com/e007d069ca80a25f4a047e721b046d37/tumblr_n41braofxM1sing4bo3_250.gif

Haha, I didn't catch that!

lol I didn't see that either

Why wasn't Littlefinger in the episode?

― Evan, Monday, April 14, 2014 7:50 PM (2 hours ago)

Could be wrong, but I think he's in the Vale sorting out an alliance with Lyssa Arryn.

I loved the first bit of the wedding, it was like watching a game of pool with grandma tyrell setting up a chain reaction among the guests - an antagonistic vibe being passed from person to person which made the events of the second half totally ambiguous. my money was on cersei as the killer, but the more i think about it the less i'm sure. either way, sanza is going to be in deep shinola if she stays or leaves.

Cersei?? What made you think that?

Because she's one of the last people who would be suspected; because she hates his wife to be; because she kind of hates him too. There was something about the last scene, I got the feeling she was playing up the grief and pointing the finger 'LOOK WHAT YOU'VE ALL DONE TO YOUR KING' etc. Then again there were a few brief shots of Tywin in there looking a bit sketchy(?)

I get that- though I don't remember the last time they focused on her being conflicted by his shitty behavior.

For the last number of episodes she's been nothing but amused by his antics.

One person I watched it with thought Cersei too because of her line about feeding the leftovers to the dogs instead of the poor people, but I don't think that was anything other than her cruelly channeling her evil frustrations.

Re-watching it they *really* hold on Grandma Diana Rigg saying something like "I can't imagine something so horrible as someone dying at a wedding" as she strokes Sansa's hair knowingly...

More like "What kind of monster would kill a man at a wedding?"

HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

she's my second favourite in the offings, have to say.

But I think she's slyer than that. Actively doing anything herself doesn't seem like her style. I think she manipulated it so that someone else poisoned Joffrey. Did we hear or see anyone pick up a poisonous substance earlier in the show?

One person I watched it with thought Cersei too because of her line about feeding the leftovers to the dogs instead of the poor people, but I don't think that was anything other than her cruelly channeling her evil frustrations.

She said this because she hates Margaery

Watch Rigg's hands carefully when she's talking to Sansa.

this is gonna get dissected at length (and undoubtedly is crazy old news in the books) but did tyrion give blond hitler wine from his own jug? was someone trying to poison tyrion and it backfired?

Virtually everyone sitting round that table had more of a motive than Cersei.

Her main motive would be to concentrate her power on the throne but if she was going to kill him she would probably have done so before he went and got married and therefore put another queen in the way.

wow all this time and I didn't recognize Diana Rigg wtf

i loved that the only ppl who seemed to care about joffrey's death were his biological parents

sounds like a real whodunit!

let's all cool off and get some ice cream

i kept thinking joffrey was going to cleave tyrion in half with his fancy new sword every time he made him kneel/bow whatever

so relieved that the little fucker is dead

wow all this time and I didn't recognize Diana Rigg wtf

To be fair she's been wearing a full-on head-tent in every scene she's been in

lol head tent

I was worried about that too. I think they were intentionally teasing us to think that might happen with all the mentions of the sword in the ep.

xposts

the sword should have magically flew out of joffrey's hands and beheaded him

flown, even

so obv tywin is still in control, the little brother is the technical king, but is margery queen? or is cersei queen-regent still?

i could see a million reasons to kill joffrey for pretty much anyone but it seems like if cersei is queen when joffrey dies, why did they tyrells wait until the marriage was official? or was it even official if they didn't consumate it?