How was Here Come The Warm Jets received upon it's release?

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here come the warm jets is basically my dream of a ziggy stardust album - an alien using all of pop/rock's little musical and recording tricks and hooks to try and seduce listeners but from a slightly askew perspective. by comparison same-era bowie feels earthbound and stagebound, decent but more pretentious than actually surreal. I love it more with every passing year, but if it doesn't amuse a listener in the slightest after two spins i have no interest in trying to convince them of its charms. they obv don't like this kind of voice or this kind of sound and that's fine but ffs it's a canonical, 40 year old classic album, if you need convincing of its worth fucking consult your local library. google a review, jesus.

xpost tiger mountain has individual tracks that blow me away, but Warm Jets is more consistently rockin to my ears

da croupier, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Do not get dislike for 'Driving Me Backwards'. Its wooziness is integral.

emil.y, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

It's the best track on the album imo

imago, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

i mean if it's a "everyone is so reverent to this thing, but i don't get what the big deal is, i wasn't sent to mars, it was just goofy '70 UK Phil-Collins-in-the-liner-notes shit, and I don't even like Roxy Music anyway" well yeah it's a Roxy Music spin-off and you're an adult, music's not gonna make you shit your pants like you're 14 once you've got a general sense of what's out there. But just as Dylan made more sense to me once I stopped resenting that every sentence wasn't the promised-by-boomers pearl and sometimes this guy's just telling jokes and making it rhyme, it shouldn't be too hard to step back and realize "john cale with the muppets" could actually be an AWESOME thing.

da croupier, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah but all the grand claims people make for eno in the 70s are actually true

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

especially that muppets thing

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link

availing myself of the opportunity to say da croupier otm

Choogle Plus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

i was always disappointed that ziggy bowie wasn't more of a blast-you-into-space kind of thing, just a dude with an acoustic guitar poncing around

once a grown-up colleague of mine heard me playing 'warm jets' and he seriously had to inquire how someone could like 'serious music' and also this sophomoric junk (not his words), like there was a complete disconnect

j., Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link

"john cale with the muppets" could actually be an AWESOME thing.

could? yeah i guess VU were pretty good
geez who would disagree with john cale and the muppets?!

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

da croup otm
although I need a little convincing that Another Green World is as classic as the other 70s vocal records, to me it's just a collection of almost-but-not-quite-as-good-as-Cluster instrumentals and the annoying "Tie Your Shoe" song

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link

y'all I don't dislike Driving, but it is my least favorite here

da croupier otm, ha xp

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link

the annoying "Tie Your Shoe" song

*glare*

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

key to AGW is St Elmo's Fire/Big Ship imo

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

That shoe song is the should-be-erased musical-linguistic link between Eno's songwriting style and Rice/Webber imo, never was a fan

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Love I'll come running, also whatever the version on the peel sessions is called

avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

da croupier OTM

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

Another green Eno-nostalgia post: the second-longest relationship I've ever been in was with a girl I met at an Eno tribute night. She wore a black dress and had a goth band and smoked and sang through perfect versions of "Needles" and "Cindy". I was smitten and asked her out and we were together two years.

"got ye!" (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link

awesome

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's tender

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

so who/what is 'Sweetfeed'—backing vocals:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/288423-Sweetfeed ?

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link

I saw Jon Brion back in 2007 or so, and as part of the set he did a spontaneous three-song "Jets" tribute the consisted of "Dead Finks Don’t Talk," "Some of them Are Old" and the title track. I'll try to find some audio. And then he segued to "Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet," which of course is also connected to Eno.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 April 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

How was Here Come The Warm Jets received upon it's release?

They would say "Here comes 'Here comes the warm jets' "

Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link

bass solo in Needles rules

Bass solo?!?! Where? Have I lost my mind here or what?

For years I assumed that was Manzanera doing that solo. Someone here set me straight.

Fripp

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

OK maybe it is a gtr solo mostly played very low? the part right after he sings the title of the song, there is a cool solo, I am not a musician.

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link

Ah, it's a gtr

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link

I was somewhat disappointed with the comparative un-adventurousness of the instrumentation, more of a standard rock record than the endless funhouse of Tiger Mountain.

I don't think the two albums are all that different really, my one tiny tiny minsicule insignificant complaint about "Tiger Mountain" would be that some of the songs are a bit longer than they need be

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Monday, 28 April 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link

nahhh

TTM is for me an entire step up, whether in terms of songwriting or sonic ingenuity

imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link

P. surprised Hurting 2 doesn't like the "Baby's on Fire" solo!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

I listened to Baby's On Fire like 6x because of this thread and that guitar solo remains one of the most sizzling ever. How else to describe? Honestly I have no idea.

some of the songs are a bit longer than they need be
agree!! i love true wheel and mother whale eyeless but they could both stand to be at least a minute shorter imo

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

"sizzling" is right. fripp really knew how to make the most of a guest spot back then. tho manzanera does the solo justince in the 801 live version...

tylerw, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link

Fave Fripp guest spot can't not be the last minute of A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers tbh

imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

there's probably already been a fripp guest spot poll?

tylerw, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link

Ha, I never knew that was Fripp on "Lighthouse Keepers"!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

Tbh I wouldn't put it past Banton to extract that fearsome solo from one of his organs, but yeah, Fripp.

imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

here come the warm jets is basically my dream of a ziggy stardust album - an alien using all of pop/rock's little musical and recording tricks and hooks to try and seduce listeners but from a slightly askew perspective. by comparison same-era bowie feels earthbound and stagebound, decent but more pretentious than actually surreal.

this is really otm - I like Ziggy a lot but it only felt like 10% as "out there" as advertised. Warm Jets does a lot of really crazy things in some fairly normal contexts which IMO is what makes it so fascinating. It's not easy to do that!

frogbs, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

True wheel could be longer, agree re mother whale eyeless tho. Latter has some of my fave lyrics ever

This is for the fingers
This is for the nails
Hidden in the kitchen
Right behind the scales

^if Scott walker sang this it would be horrifying and obviously about torture; when eno sings it it's not obviously not about torture, and unnerving.

Then there's the "in my town" sequence which is just funny.

paolo amusing eclectic revivals (wins), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

Slightly off-topic, but the new one, with Karl Hyde, "Someday World" is streaming here:
http://www.npr.org/2014/04/27/306161810/first-listen-brian-eno-karl-hyde-someday-world

back-up duck (doo dah), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link

I didn't really OTM him because he'd been OTMed a lot but yeah, croup hitting it out of the park on this one.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

Um, the internet thinks it might have been Banton after all xps

imago, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

there's probably already been a fripp guest spot poll?

― tylerw, Monday, April 28, 2014 11:41 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Even if we did a poll already, would make a sweet Spotify playlist especially since there's 0 crim on there.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

and if we ain't polled it we should

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

This thread deserves to have ITS title fixed.

nerve_pylon, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link

so who/what is 'Sweetfeed'—backing vocals:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/288423-Sweetfeed ?

― nerve_pylon, Saturday, April 26, 2014 6:33 PM (2 days ago)

http://www.spectropop.com/FrontPorch/

I was the only one to continue with music. I moved to London in 1971 and stayed for ten years. I had some success as a guitarist-singer-songwriter. I had a group that went by the name of Sweetfeed and also Roberts, Rice, Bandell and Scott. We recorded with Roger Daltrey on his solo album "Ride A Rock Horse", and also with Brian Eno on his album "Here Come The Warm Jets". We never had any of our own recordings released or achieved commercial success, but our fans included David Bowie, Rod Stewart, Gary Glitter, Bryan Ferry, the Supremes and all of London high society, including members of the royal family.

Number None, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link

but no actual punters.

(soz)

Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

xpost Pretty sure that is Fripp on the VdG album. I know he pops up a couple of places on "Pawn Hearts."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link


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