HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Jaime, OTOH, was going through a redemption of sorts due to the revelation of extra information about the circumstances behind his murder of Aerys and his journey with Brienne; anti-heroes and reformed scoundrels aren't supposed to rape their sisters, that's a fundamental violation of American storytelling rules.

Most of that outcry was a "how dare you make me like this rapist" reaction IMO as opposed to people actually objecting to the seeming escalation of the depiction of rape on this show.

I super-disagree with that, maybe it's just the (tumblr) circles I travel in but the reaction I saw were "this is the worst of an increasingly disturbing number of decisions to depict gratuitous violence against women."

I am talking more about my perception of the mainstream reaction to that scene than anything else.

i was pretty taken aback by the white walker ritual stuff i guess from the books i never would have assumed they had a culture/society/religion or anything, basically i read them as high functioning zombies basically

It's fairly well-established in the books that while the wights are the (high-functioning) zombies, the actual Others/WWs themselves are culturally distinct (think of the circle of innards they make in the prologue -- don't remember if that happened in the books or the show only).

felt like whole baby sequence was trolling

especially at the very end when the babys eyse went blue and it turned toward the camera like LOL OWNED

I guess maybe the idea is that we were expecting the white walkers to be motivated by kind of ghostly evil compulsions, rather than just some sort of evil race with a culture/home.

Wasn't that the EXACT white walker

Presumably all the younger ones are Craster's sons. There might be a family resemblance.

motivated by kind of ghostly evil compulsions

no other motivation really makes sense imo

can we get some kind of arnold-as-mr. freeze/white walker mash up somehow?

the white walkers turn out to be actually the good guys?

They understand the threat that climate change poses to the planet.

i am ze vite valker ... remember ze name for it iz ze chillink sount of your dooooooom

+1 for getting sick of all the gratuitous rapeyness. We get it. Move it to off-camera.

felt like whole baby sequence was trolling

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 28, 2014 6:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

think the trailer for Damon Lindelof's new show before the episode was key to the direction GoT wants to go with this mythology shit

sure fuckin hope not, that thing looks ridiculous

So is the baby gonna stay a baby or is it gonna grow

If white walkers can grow then why don't the horses just grow a new face

Wizard (named Sam).

Er... Because the horses are not white walkers. Xpost

Yah... they're white gallopers!!

the horses choose not to?

The horses are wights. They died and the white walkers are able to bring them back. I think.

It's fairly well-established in the books that while the wights are the (high-functioning) zombies, the actual Others/WWs themselves are culturally distinct (think of the circle of innards they make in the prologue -- don't remember if that happened in the books or the show only).

― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:10 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

I think I totally missed this part in the books

It's entirely possible I'm mixing up the show and the books, tbh.

No reason to have an entire episode of setup for every story, followed by a peak for every story, then setups, on and on. It's plagued the series since the beginning; give a payoff to one or two of the many story lines each week while setting up the others. It's really not hard.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:27 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ugh, it's like an accepted thing now esp in Critically Acclaimed Hour-long Dramas that an episode is either allowed to be setup or payoff. like 80% of the episode reviews on the avclub include the line "this was a transitional episode, but..."

part of it is lazy viewership most of it is these shows/media/promotional material training us to only give a shit about different-colored weddings

i think there was an entire season worth of breaking bad episodes that were described as "transitional"

are there gonna be more different colored weddings tho

brown wedding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZQaYKZMTI

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Man, the Tyrrells are good. When it comes to scheming and machinations everyone else in this is an amateur by comparison, no one even suspects them of anything. Maybe the Spider does, but he's slipping.

I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this. Doesn't help that I glaze over the snow scenes when there aren't White Walkers around, because the only main characters are involved are John Snow and Sam and they are both terrible and boring.

Oh yeah when did Ghost get caught

I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this.

They are all just stupid ruffians who were sick of being in the Night's Watch and wanted to do some drinking and raping for a bit.

I totally called the necklace thing last week! but then it looked like a red herring.

Those north of the wall ruffians are new, not in the books

it would be cool if the show started diverging wildly from the books and turned into a totally different story

like if you were martin wouldnt you want a second shot, everyone says the fourth and fifth books blow anyway

also itd be cool to freak out and confuse everyone who read the books

newsflash art is whatever u want it to be nerds

Is Tommen supposed to old enough to get someone knocked up yet?

Tommen is supposed to be eight (and he was in s2 iirc). In the book he gets married to Margaery (who is 16) but it's supposed to be years before he's considered old enough to consumate his marriage.

Thankfully the show ignored all that and gave us the straight up paedo vibes!

i guess it is spoilery to talk about any story thread not being in the books because you know nothing of actual consequence can happen. and as a viewer that realization kind of balances out the fun of the novelty and leaves a net 'meh'. i will say that they did need to do something, the show has to care about regular screen time for all the major characters in a way that the books didn't. and the mutineers at crasters are not really new, they are just forgotten about as the story progresses elsewhere. i think repurposing an existing element is pretty smart, and by doing so they are clearly trying to keep a rein on the introduction of wholly new things.

*viewer who has read the books

highlighting the paedo vibes of mediaeval-style political royal marriages is not necessarily inappropriate. i thought it was a well done scene.

except for the part the show itself and many of the viewers seem unaware of the creepiness of that scene.

he seems to be 12 or 13 in the show

lagoon this isn't art this is nerd shit

But yeah I'm kind of hopeful that the show ppl can maybe correct some of the flaws of the last 2. I'd love to see the sequence recut to be chronological