So is the baby gonna stay a baby or is it gonna grow
If white walkers can grow then why don't the horses just grow a new face
― 龜, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
Wizard (named Sam).
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Er... Because the horses are not white walkers. Xpost
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
Yah... they're white gallopers!!
― 龜, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
the horses choose not to?
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
The horses are wights. They died and the white walkers are able to bring them back. I think.
― mizzell, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
It's fairly well-established in the books that while the wights are the (high-functioning) zombies, the actual Others/WWs themselves are culturally distinct (think of the circle of innards they make in the prologue -- don't remember if that happened in the books or the show only).
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:10 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
I think I totally missed this part in the books
― 龜, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link
It's entirely possible I'm mixing up the show and the books, tbh.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
No reason to have an entire episode of setup for every story, followed by a peak for every story, then setups, on and on. It's plagued the series since the beginning; give a payoff to one or two of the many story lines each week while setting up the others. It's really not hard.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:27 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ugh, it's like an accepted thing now esp in Critically Acclaimed Hour-long Dramas that an episode is either allowed to be setup or payoff. like 80% of the episode reviews on the avclub include the line "this was a transitional episode, but..."
part of it is lazy viewership most of it is these shows/media/promotional material training us to only give a shit about different-colored weddings
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link
i think there was an entire season worth of breaking bad episodes that were described as "transitional"
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
are there gonna be more different colored weddings tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
brown wedding
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZQaYKZMTI
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
https://p.gr-assets.com/75x/scale/books/1348793736/5994288.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link
Man, the Tyrrells are good. When it comes to scheming and machinations everyone else in this is an amateur by comparison, no one even suspects them of anything. Maybe the Spider does, but he's slipping.
I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this. Doesn't help that I glaze over the snow scenes when there aren't White Walkers around, because the only main characters are involved are John Snow and Sam and they are both terrible and boring.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:22 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah when did Ghost get caught
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:23 (ten years ago) link
I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this.
They are all just stupid ruffians who were sick of being in the Night's Watch and wanted to do some drinking and raping for a bit.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link
I totally called the necklace thing last week! but then it looked like a red herring.
― kinder, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link
Those north of the wall ruffians are new, not in the books
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link
it would be cool if the show started diverging wildly from the books and turned into a totally different story
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link
like if you were martin wouldnt you want a second shot, everyone says the fourth and fifth books blow anyway
also itd be cool to freak out and confuse everyone who read the books
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link
newsflash art is whatever u want it to be nerds
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:38 (ten years ago) link
Is Tommen supposed to old enough to get someone knocked up yet?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:45 (ten years ago) link
Tommen is supposed to be eight (and he was in s2 iirc). In the book he gets married to Margaery (who is 16) but it's supposed to be years before he's considered old enough to consumate his marriage.
Thankfully the show ignored all that and gave us the straight up paedo vibes!
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:49 (ten years ago) link
i guess it is spoilery to talk about any story thread not being in the books because you know nothing of actual consequence can happen. and as a viewer that realization kind of balances out the fun of the novelty and leaves a net 'meh'. i will say that they did need to do something, the show has to care about regular screen time for all the major characters in a way that the books didn't. and the mutineers at crasters are not really new, they are just forgotten about as the story progresses elsewhere. i think repurposing an existing element is pretty smart, and by doing so they are clearly trying to keep a rein on the introduction of wholly new things.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:52 (ten years ago) link
*viewer who has read the books
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link
highlighting the paedo vibes of mediaeval-style political royal marriages is not necessarily inappropriate. i thought it was a well done scene.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link
except for the part the show itself and many of the viewers seem unaware of the creepiness of that scene.
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:59 (ten years ago) link
he seems to be 12 or 13 in the show
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:00 (ten years ago) link
lagoon this isn't art this is nerd shit
But yeah I'm kind of hopeful that the show ppl can maybe correct some of the flaws of the last 2. I'd love to see the sequence recut to be chronological
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:00 (ten years ago) link
i think that's a given, they're not going to just ignore popular characters for 8 episodes
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link
sry i dont know anything about nerds i just assumed it was art
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:02 (ten years ago) link
eh if they don't dedicate at least half a season uninterrupted to the storyline of oberon pansy the portly minstrel then they might as well cut him out entirely
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link
Nerd shit is art. Not necessarily good art.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:36 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark
Given the season so far I actually kind of think this is happening
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:20 (ten years ago) link
crosses fingers
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:23 (ten years ago) link
yeah i really wouldnt be surprised if that happened once theyre done with book 3
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Like mods feel free to delete if this is spoilery but it's not just the mutineer arc that's new, it's also weirdo Locke being sent to the wall
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link
Also I hope the actors who play Bran and Tommen grow even more between seasons for some serious lols
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:26 (ten years ago) link
What if Bran has basketball player genes
What if he's taller than Holdor by season 5
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link
just got to pivot, his super power is yamming on fools now
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link
They'll just have to invent some reason to never see Bran standing up.
― mizzell, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:32 (ten years ago) link
Yeah but he'd have comically long arms
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:33 (ten years ago) link
Can't wait XD
I haven't seen the most recent ep, and I haven't scanned the thread recently for fear of spoilers, but it occurred to me that as much as I enjoy this show, if it were summarily cancelled I wouldn't necessarily mourn it or go through withdrawal the way I might for shows I've liked more. I mean, I'd miss it, since I enjoy it, but not in the same way I've liked other Must-See TV. I'm trying to put my finger on why that is. Is it the campiness? The soapiness? The fact that half the cast could die and I probably wouldn't miss them too much, bar a couple of characters (who for all I know are slated to die)? Is the story/cast/arc just getting too big and unwieldy to balance with all the stuff and traits people have come to expect? I'm glad the budget, the author's pace and the relatively scant number of episodes per season are keeping this from totally spinning out of control. But still, something about the way the show plays undercuts its innately epic scenario. It's kind of a disorienting disequilibrium.
Sorry, thinking out loud a bit.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:33 (ten years ago) link
shd prob be its own thread tbh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:34 (ten years ago) link
if they cancelled the show i'd be bummed because i'd never find out what happened
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link
I'd be bummed because no more Margaery ;(
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link
XP
there are so many characters and so many plot lines and so many of the characters and plot lines are so far from intersection that it seems like a bunch of disjointed/separate stories. As a result of this, I don't really have any emotional involvement in any of the characters, and what involvement I once had (primarily around the Starks after the first season) has been diluted as secondary and tertiary characters continue to be added, seemingly with every episode
― building a desert (art), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 13:40 (ten years ago) link