HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

Er... Because the horses are not white walkers. Xpost

Yah... they're white gallopers!!

the horses choose not to?

The horses are wights. They died and the white walkers are able to bring them back. I think.

It's fairly well-established in the books that while the wights are the (high-functioning) zombies, the actual Others/WWs themselves are culturally distinct (think of the circle of innards they make in the prologue -- don't remember if that happened in the books or the show only).

― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:10 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

I think I totally missed this part in the books

It's entirely possible I'm mixing up the show and the books, tbh.

No reason to have an entire episode of setup for every story, followed by a peak for every story, then setups, on and on. It's plagued the series since the beginning; give a payoff to one or two of the many story lines each week while setting up the others. It's really not hard.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:27 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ugh, it's like an accepted thing now esp in Critically Acclaimed Hour-long Dramas that an episode is either allowed to be setup or payoff. like 80% of the episode reviews on the avclub include the line "this was a transitional episode, but..."

part of it is lazy viewership most of it is these shows/media/promotional material training us to only give a shit about different-colored weddings

i think there was an entire season worth of breaking bad episodes that were described as "transitional"

are there gonna be more different colored weddings tho

brown wedding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZQaYKZMTI

https://p.gr-assets.com/75x/scale/books/1348793736/5994288.jpg

Man, the Tyrrells are good. When it comes to scheming and machinations everyone else in this is an amateur by comparison, no one even suspects them of anything. Maybe the Spider does, but he's slipping.

I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this. Doesn't help that I glaze over the snow scenes when there aren't White Walkers around, because the only main characters are involved are John Snow and Sam and they are both terrible and boring.

Oh yeah when did Ghost get caught

I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this.

They are all just stupid ruffians who were sick of being in the Night's Watch and wanted to do some drinking and raping for a bit.

I totally called the necklace thing last week! but then it looked like a red herring.

Those north of the wall ruffians are new, not in the books

it would be cool if the show started diverging wildly from the books and turned into a totally different story

like if you were martin wouldnt you want a second shot, everyone says the fourth and fifth books blow anyway

also itd be cool to freak out and confuse everyone who read the books

newsflash art is whatever u want it to be nerds

Is Tommen supposed to old enough to get someone knocked up yet?

Tommen is supposed to be eight (and he was in s2 iirc). In the book he gets married to Margaery (who is 16) but it's supposed to be years before he's considered old enough to consumate his marriage.

Thankfully the show ignored all that and gave us the straight up paedo vibes!

i guess it is spoilery to talk about any story thread not being in the books because you know nothing of actual consequence can happen. and as a viewer that realization kind of balances out the fun of the novelty and leaves a net 'meh'. i will say that they did need to do something, the show has to care about regular screen time for all the major characters in a way that the books didn't. and the mutineers at crasters are not really new, they are just forgotten about as the story progresses elsewhere. i think repurposing an existing element is pretty smart, and by doing so they are clearly trying to keep a rein on the introduction of wholly new things.

*viewer who has read the books

highlighting the paedo vibes of mediaeval-style political royal marriages is not necessarily inappropriate. i thought it was a well done scene.

except for the part the show itself and many of the viewers seem unaware of the creepiness of that scene.

he seems to be 12 or 13 in the show

lagoon this isn't art this is nerd shit

But yeah I'm kind of hopeful that the show ppl can maybe correct some of the flaws of the last 2. I'd love to see the sequence recut to be chronological

i think that's a given, they're not going to just ignore popular characters for 8 episodes

sry i dont know anything about nerds i just assumed it was art

eh if they don't dedicate at least half a season uninterrupted to the storyline of oberon pansy the portly minstrel then they might as well cut him out entirely

Nerd shit is art. Not necessarily good art.

it would be cool if the show started diverging wildly from the books and turned into a totally different story

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:36 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

Given the season so far I actually kind of think this is happening

crosses fingers

yeah i really wouldnt be surprised if that happened once theyre done with book 3

Like mods feel free to delete if this is spoilery but it's not just the mutineer arc that's new, it's also weirdo Locke being sent to the wall

Also I hope the actors who play Bran and Tommen grow even more between seasons for some serious lols

What if Bran has basketball player genes

What if he's taller than Holdor by season 5

just got to pivot, his super power is yamming on fools now

They'll just have to invent some reason to never see Bran standing up.

Yeah but he'd have comically long arms

Can't wait XD

I haven't seen the most recent ep, and I haven't scanned the thread recently for fear of spoilers, but it occurred to me that as much as I enjoy this show, if it were summarily cancelled I wouldn't necessarily mourn it or go through withdrawal the way I might for shows I've liked more. I mean, I'd miss it, since I enjoy it, but not in the same way I've liked other Must-See TV. I'm trying to put my finger on why that is. Is it the campiness? The soapiness? The fact that half the cast could die and I probably wouldn't miss them too much, bar a couple of characters (who for all I know are slated to die)? Is the story/cast/arc just getting too big and unwieldy to balance with all the stuff and traits people have come to expect? I'm glad the budget, the author's pace and the relatively scant number of episodes per season are keeping this from totally spinning out of control. But still, something about the way the show plays undercuts its innately epic scenario. It's kind of a disorienting disequilibrium.

Sorry, thinking out loud a bit.

shd prob be its own thread tbh

if they cancelled the show i'd be bummed because i'd never find out what happened

I'd be bummed because no more Margaery ;(

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there are so many characters and so many plot lines and so many of the characters and plot lines are so far from intersection that it seems like a bunch of disjointed/separate stories. As a result of this, I don't really have any emotional involvement in any of the characters, and what involvement I once had (primarily around the Starks after the first season) has been diluted as secondary and tertiary characters continue to be added, seemingly with every episode

You don't have any emotional involvement with the Starks because they're all DEAD

There's no sympathetic core because GRRM killed off the Starks

Now you're just watching to see how it all resolves and maybe you have a personal fav or two but GRRM has also trained you to not invest too deeply in any one character