mike woodson job search tracking thread, plus triangle offense knowledge assessment quiz (nba offseason news 2014)

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the sixers had one of the worst offenses ever this year. thibs is probably the last guy they'd want

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link

he's had his star offensive player get injured, and the guy they brought in to be 2nd offensive option is fucking Carlos Boozer.
I wouldn't swap a known top coach for an unknown top draft pick.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

problem is that management has been overly focused on "character guys" to such an extent (it's worked well for them for the most part, turned around the team from Eddie Robinson/Eddy Curry days) that they have 13 "character guys" who can't create their own shot to save their life. Their starting 2 guard recently said he often forgets that he's an offensive player too. I don't think Thibs has helped steer them away from this mindset tho obv.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link

sixers are adding Noel and a top 5 pick minimum next year so they'll be better than the historic garbage they were this year

Clay, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

the sixers had one of the worst offenses ever this year. thibs is probably the last guy they'd want

― k3vin k., Thursday, May 1, 2014 8:33 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they had many of the worst things ever this year

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the only pick the lakers can trade right now is the 2014 pick (after they make it) which is way too fucking much to give for a coach

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link

but a pick way in the future? yeah why not.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link

lol looks like it would be the 2019 pick

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link

woj has an article today suggesting the lakers should go after derrick fisher which, like, yessssssss embrace the madness

Clay, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

lmao pleeeeease

kidd-gilchrist-douglas-roberts- (Spottie), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

i just read that article and that would probably be the most suicidal move the lakers could make. what the hell does fisher's history with kobe matter? kobe is under contract, he's not going anywhere

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

I kinda like the idea of Fisher as coach.

1) It means he can't play anymore.
2) Other reasons.

polyphonic, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link

ha otm and if he was lakers coach then like double kill. more reasons to pile on

kidd-gilchrist-douglas-roberts- (Spottie), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link

the only reason to bring fisher in is because kobe's said in the past the only person on gods green earth he'd defer to is fisher.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:22 (ten years ago) link

plz make this happen

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link

Just as Bryant managed to get in Fisher's ear during contract negotiations, Bryant shared during the NBA Finals that Fisher's the only player on the team that he'll truly listen to at all times. No one questions Bryant's desire to win, his skill-set and work ethic, but few have the credibility to privately and publicly question Bryant (just ask Shaq). No one questions Fisher's leadership credentials and professional attitude, but not everyone would go out of his way and emphasize how highly important Fisher has been to the team like Bryant did during free agency.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/12/news/lat-fisher-bryant-sl

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

The knots that franchise is tying itself into to placate a guy who is probably going to play 45 games a year for two years and retire, it's so baffling

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link

Sure hire that great leader who got his ass handed to him in the new CBA during the lockout

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

well to be fair their best player did blow his knee out

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, May 1, 2014

details details.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link

(I'm sure that was more billy hunters fault but I'll take shots at fish where I can)

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nbapicshow.com/nba_picture/nba-big-picture/Kobe-Bryant-And-Derek-Fisher-Wallpaper-The-Best-Friends-And-Brothers.jpg

too big to embed but really, really worth your attention on this day of days

Clay, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link

thank you

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link

hire kobe's friend to be lakers coach, all problems are solved

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link

lakers front office seems to think that treating kobe well will help them recruit free agents.. nevermind that the worlds biggest asshole is on your team RIGHT NOW and nobody wants to play with his ass.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link

i just don't get the derek fisher idea. nothing against fisher, but there's been this oddly high number of people moving or rumored to be moving straight into head-coaching jobs lately, without any coaching background (e.g., kidd; kerr; mark jackson (i think he was a novice?); now fisher). seems like coaching is a distinct set of responsibilities, and being a great player, analyst, generally smart, articulate person doesn't necessarily qualify you.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

my friend insists that kobe is woj's source and he's trying to build up support for fish

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 2 May 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I don't see why Fisher is a bad choice. Not something people in our position could really judge. He's a smart player, just wildly cheap.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 May 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link

do you think he would play himself if he were scott brooks?

k3vin k., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link

haha maybe

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link

you know I think signing fisher was even worse than playing him

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link

"not a bad choice" dude there must be dozens of qualified coaches out there who actually know what they're doing and have some experience, why would the lakers, of all franchises, roll the dice on kobe's buddy?

k3vin k., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link

I don't think players have to necessarily do an apprenticeship before coaching. He could be a legit coaching talent, we just don't know. Wasn't Doc Rivers just a broadcaster before getting his first NBA coaching gig?

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:14 (ten years ago) link

Lakers have much more info on what kind of basketball mind Fisher has than we message board goons do.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link

true

k3vin k., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link

i guess i'm just going off of woj's rationale which is that him being friends with kobe and durant somehow makes him an attractive candidate. if the guy can coach, fine

k3vin k., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:16 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I mean for all the shit we've given them mark jackson and kidd have their teams in the playoffs

, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

d fish could be a really good coach, i just love the idea of d fish coaching in LA with old Kobe

kidd-gilchrist-douglas-roberts- (Spottie), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link

yes, i need this opportunity to focus my hatred

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 May 2014 04:00 (ten years ago) link

yeah I don't have any pretensions to knowledge of fish's quality as a coach, I just want to rag on him for years and years

Clay, Friday, 2 May 2014 04:05 (ten years ago) link

there must be dozens of qualified coaches out there who actually know what they're doing and have some experience

totally hear ya on this, but I'm thinking people like Fisher, Jackson, Kidd paradoxically have more instant credibility to players? or a kind of cache? "guys your new coach is Derek Fisher" 'oh Fish ok cool' vs "guys your new coach is Mike Budenholzer" 'da fuck??? *googles Mike Budenholzer*'.
also maybe Lakers are more willing to play a risk v reward game, snatch up a possible good-to-great coach before he hits the open market and if it doesn't work out oh well they can afford to fire him, pay out his contract, and hire another big name coach.
and it's m/l working out with Jackson and Kidd so it's trendy, NBA is a pretty trendy-heavy league.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 May 2014 04:16 (ten years ago) link

Lakers have much more info on what kind of basketball mind Fisher has than we message board goons do.

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

based on their recent history if they hire him then hes prob not qualified, if they dont hire him then maybe he is

lag∞n, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:49 (ten years ago) link

lakers are gonna be bad next year regardless tho

lag∞n, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

Hey I know the lakers are trying to glom on to any big name out there but if OKC wipes out and fires brooks they have to look hard at Kevin Ollie right?

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Saturday, 3 May 2014 01:39 (ten years ago) link

as soon as uconn started making their run i thought ollie was the frontrunner if brooks was out, if only for 'how do we keep durant' reasons.

balls, Saturday, 3 May 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link

Nick Young ‏@NickSwagyPYoung 3h -- I'll be the new coach

lol why not?

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1h -- Scratch my Steve Kerr to #Knicks over #Warriors tab. Insider tells me it's likelier to be Warriors with daughter at Berkeley, fam in SDiego

it's all so confusing. i thought GSW didn't want to go for two consecutive "tv analyst to head coach" experiments?

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link

Where did you hear that?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

a twitter feed of one of those "nba insiders." of course, there is a wide swing in credibility from one "insider" to the next. just can't recall which one said that.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link

I haven't read that they don't want another tv analyst anywhere, and Kerr's name has been discussed wrt this story from the beginning due to his ties to Rick Welts and Kirk Lacob.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link


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