I never thought he sounded English in s1 though? It just sounded like a more neutralised version off his natural accent (he doesn't have a really strong accent though).
Easily his worst accent moment was this scene at 2.19, awful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4bOa_WD0nE
― gyac, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
I'm just curious - would some Britishes like to break down all the different characters accents
― famous instagram dog (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 May 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
max did, pretty much a year to the dayhttp://gawker.com/what-is-going-on-with-the-accents-in-game-of-thrones-485816507
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 May 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
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― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 May 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah I'm going to call bs on that article
Roose Bolton is a northman through and through, but uses an actorly RP accent as played by Michael McElhatton, who's Irish.
lolno
― gyac, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
It's just a vaguely threatening version of McElhatton's normal accent, no?
― Number None, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
pretty much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1xxqPE4I4g
― gyac, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
not mention of Conleth Hill AKA Varys who is a proper Nordie in real life
― Number None, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
he and Michelle Fairley are from the same small town iirc
― gyac, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
One of my favorite claims is that the actors in "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" apparently hail from such radically different places in Asia that for Chinese speakers it was like watching an American movie where one actor had a Boston accent, another Texas, another New York, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Michelle Yeoh's Mandarin is unintelligible in CTHD.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Friday, 9 May 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
oh there's also Jack Gleeson who's from Cork (but bears the mark of his south Dublin schooling) and plays Joffrey as a generic English posho
― Number None, Friday, 9 May 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, May 9, 2014 5:54 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what an unimaginable scenario
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 9 May 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
trying to picture a movie where one actor has a boston accent and another has a new york accent and the cognitive dissonance is just too much
If they're all supposed to be from the same family, then it would be disctracting.
― nickn, Friday, 9 May 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, sorry, I meant like in a movie where it would stick out for no reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, May 10, 2014 5:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
There is way more linguistic variation in China, to the point where two people can be from different towns only separated by a few miles, but will be mutually unintelligible to each other
― 龜, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
like actually truly unintelligible or like "naive midwesterner hearing a really, really thick scottish accent for the first time" unintelligible
― gbx, Saturday, 10 May 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
Truly unintelligible
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Chinese
Min is usually described as one of seven or ten groups of Chinese dialects but has greater dialectal diversity than any of the other groups. The varieties used in neighbouring counties, and in the mountains of western Fujian even in adjacent villages, are often mutually unintelligible.[2]
Of course these days everybody understands basic Mandarin, especially the young kids
But most people still speak their local dialect first and Mandarin second
It's changing though w/ the younger generation and I think more & more parents are emphasizing Mandarin
― 龜, Saturday, 10 May 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
There was a study that showed that linguistic variation increased as you went South in China
That's because Southern China is extremely mountainous and it'd be hard to make it from one village to another w/o hiking many days & c
People'd stay in their lil villages and talk to each other and make up cool new words
The North is all relatively similar like Dongbei people have their own 'dialect' but it's pretty much the same as Mandarin
That's cause all that separates Dongbei and Beijing is a big flat plain that you can gallop across!
― 龜, Saturday, 10 May 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
i wanna chill in the mountains and make up cool new words
― gbx, Saturday, 10 May 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
there was once a Coen Brothers movie set in a part of Arizona that was seemingly inhabited entirely by people from Kentucky
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 May 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
One video of Lucia Micarelli (Annie from Treme) in Jethro Tull covering a Led Zeppelin tune. She doesn't look Game Of Thronesy.
Here's the trailer for Treacle Jr, the Aidan Gillen film I mentioned upthread. The trailer isn't great but I like the film... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPKpq3UoEx0
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 10 May 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
― gyac, Friday, May 9, 2014 5:39 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is this not right? what's mcelhatton's accent?
― max, Sunday, 11 May 2014 12:27 (nine years ago) link
man shay is a bummer
― building a desert (art), Monday, 12 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
That Yara, such a well-mannered lady, sez thanks to the guard for leading them to Theon before cutting his throat.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:00 (nine years ago) link
who is tyrion going to fight?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:24 (nine years ago) link
i would guess kings guard, so jaimie?
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:28 (nine years ago) link
dunno who but that was an awesome ending.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
I heard something that Yara (Theon's sister, can't remember if that's right) going after Theon was a deviation from the novels and if that's how they're going to deviate then ugh it's so pointless.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 12 May 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link
The way that scene works is unintentional slapstick.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 12 May 2014 06:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah good ep but the notion of ironborn hightailing it over a couple of dogs and shirtless ramsay bolton was just weird. also the notion that he could go toe to toe with anyone who wasn't already tied to a cross.
was i missing something there?
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 12 May 2014 06:36 (nine years ago) link
you are correct, in the books she doesn't really give much of a shit about him. I was irritated by the way they changed it.
― sarahell, Monday, 12 May 2014 09:18 (nine years ago) link
I guess it was just to show how completely in thrall 'Reek' is to Ramsay Snow, but it was a clumsy way of doing that.
Other than that, absolutely top notch episode.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 12 May 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link
Well, she didn't have a lot of men with her. I was hoping she gave up on saving Theon after seeing him but is now ready for war?
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
i would guess kings guard, so jaimie? --sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu)
From earlier seasons - can't he ask for a volunteer to stand in his place? Or is this case different in some way?
― building a desert (art), Monday, 12 May 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link
Surely it's the guy who has been traiing jamie and is the only one that knows he can't fight?
― Popture, Monday, 12 May 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
When Oberyn said 'I have an ear for accents' I really wanted Littlefinger to show up.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 12 May 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
re shae's acting ability - i found it impossible to read any subtlety or nuance into her testimony in this last ep. was she angry that tyrion harry and the hendersoned her? was she being threatened? bribed for her testimony? who knows! everything she says she delivers w/ the same monotone.
― Mordy, Monday, 12 May 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I was expecting to detect some emotion underneath her testimony, too. I'm saving any disappointment with her performance until I learn what her motivation was. In case that matters.
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
― Popture, Monday, May 12, 2014 10:08 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bronn. Not sure if he'll do that for him AGAIN
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
Fight for him that is. I initially misread your post
xxp I read the monotone awkwardness of Shae's testimony as her reciting a story someone else fed to her. But then again, that actress has given a lot of awkward monotone line reads.
Why does Varys testify against Tyrion? What's his motivation there? All the other witnesses had some kind of grudge, but I can't recall that Varys does.
My guess for what's next is that Tyrion will again choose Jaime as his champion in combat because there's no way Tywin would let Jaime get killed.
Whatever happened to Gendry? Is he just row-boating in circles?
― zchyrs, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
"I read the monotone awkwardness of Shae's testimony as her reciting a story someone else fed to her."
Yeah but she also threw in a lot of personal digs
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I get if Varys is just trying to get points, but he didn't have to mention that he thought maybe Tyrion was sympathetic to the northern cause...
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
oh boy now we get TWO trials
― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
until I learn what her motivation was.
― gyac, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
If someone was making her say it, you'd expect her to show some pain delivering the testimony. If her primary motivation was that she is pissed at Tyrion anyway to the point that maybe she volunteered to be a witness (maybe! she was devastated so she hates him now possibly) than it's more understandable that the delivery was totally cold and detached.
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
So that's why I'm saving the criticism until I learn which or if it's a combination of both etc
― Evan, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
what? why would she show pain? who would possibly care? the people who are forcing her and who are controlling whether she lives or dies, given the whole thing is blatantly rigged?
― gyac, Monday, 12 May 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link