The 2013 do-over Toronto Blue Jays (AKA the 2014 Blue Jays Thread)

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They couldn't even keep the momentum going through the weekend.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 11 May 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link

does anyone else think that bringing Stroman up only to dump him in the bullpen with irregular work was the dumbest thing they could have done?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 May 2014 02:04 (ten years ago) link

2-0 win over Darvish. They're maddening.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link

maddening? i dunno - i'll take it!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 17 May 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

Encarnacion has been seeing the ball well lately.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 22 May 2014 07:36 (nine years ago) link

Curious to see what they do this afternoon. "Momentum is tomorrow's starting pitcher"--okay, then, they've got their best pitcher going today, they've won five out of six, playing a team that's lost six in a row (complicated by the fact that Boston has their best starter going today). I know there's a thousand ways you can shoot this down, but I just feel like, if the Jays are a serious contender, they should win this game.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/47518/edwin-encarnacion-one-of-baseballs-best

I completely forgot that he was sent to the minors and eventually released after the 2010 season. I think that was before they made him a full time DH though -- I remember a lot of fans not liking him because of his awful defense.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

Two home runs in the first (not by Encarnacion) off Jon Lester is a nice start. I want to believe!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

7-1 in the 2nd!!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

Sorry, Tug McGraw, that's our new slogan: "I want to believe!" (Extended director's cut: "I want to believe! I really do--I'm just not sure I have anything left at this point.")

clemenza, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

Win over the A's? 1.5 game lead in the East? I still can't see how we're going to pull this off with only one reliable starting pitcher.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 24 May 2014 08:44 (nine years ago) link

I did not expect a sweep of the A's.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

When they fluffed up that one inning, I thought they'd lose for sure. Somewhat in shock. (The Jays were up by a run in the middle of the game, and they had bases loaded, none out, Bautista and Encarnacion coming up. After an out at the plate and the popular 8-1 putout--after an unsuccessful appeal--they came out of the inning with one run.)

clemenza, Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

It was definitely one of those games when I was waiting for them to somehow blow it. I thought bringing out Happ for the 7th was a mistake, but he turned in his best inning of the game. McGowan looked shaky too but he somehow got through his inning. And of course there was inning with the 8-1 putout at second on a misjudged pop up, right after Reyes got thrown out at the plate.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

juggernaut

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link

7 games!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link

myself and some coworkers, on a whim, went to the game today. did not disappoint.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 29 May 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

Skepticism at Sports Illustrated:

http://mlb.si.com/2014/05/28/toronto-blue-jays-first-place-al-east-contenders/?eref=sihp

I'm skeptical too, but I'm not sure I get the logic of: last year this wouldn't have been a surprise, they barely changed anything, now this year it's suspect.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 May 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link

i don't see a cakewalk, but this is the proverbial "winnable" division.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 May 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

xpost I agree, it's the same as last year's team, and that team didn't have enough pitching either.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 29 May 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

petty much. we are now without Josh Johnson occupying the DL, and instead this year have Hutch and Drabek back from tommy John. so.. slight improvement?

at any rate i think we're a starter &/or 2B away from being able to hang onto 1st long term.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

This is Monday morning quarterbacking, but the thing I like best about this year's team so far is Francisco. I didn't pay any attention when the Jays picked him up. But the one thing I always notice on playoff teams are these 2-3 WAR guys that come cheap and in a lot of cases nobody wanted. I go back and look at Francisco's career box, and you can see that there was some potential for a breakout year: in 2012-13, he hit 27 HR in 540 AB. I'm sure such acquisitions don't work out more often than not, but they make such a difference when they do. He's getting 1.3 million this year.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

i wouldn't expect Francisco to keep his current pace up. he's already cooling off noticeably.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

Encarnacion's going crazy--just hit his second of the game, upper deck, now has 16 HR and 33 RBI for the month.

clemenza, Friday, 30 May 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link

@gregorMLB
Encarnacion has 16 in the month of May. That's one shy of the Barry Bonds mark set in May of 2001. #BlueJays

Andy K, Friday, 30 May 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link

@gregorMLB
Encarnacion's five multi-homer games in the month are tied for most Major League history. Albert Belle (Sept. 95),Harmon Killebrew (May, 59)

Andy K, Friday, 30 May 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

welp

mookieproof, Friday, 30 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

Don't know if there's a good way to end a winning streak, but that ain't it.

clemenza, Friday, 30 May 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link

the 9-3 putout was nice at least

mookieproof, Friday, 30 May 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link

Billy Butler makes a mad dash to first on a single to right field.

clemenza, Saturday, 31 May 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link

Thank goodness. I'm sure I wasn't the only one nervous about Thursday night triggering a losing streak.

clemenza, Saturday, 31 May 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

7 runs in the first inning = nope, all good!!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 1 June 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

4-0 win behind Buerhle. I like this team.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 1 June 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

KC being so anemic, I wish they'd won three, but that's okay, they came back well. Double and another homer for Encarnacion--needs a nickname.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 June 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

ya, we can't really call him E5 anymore!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 1 June 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

Mr. May's no good, just ask Dave Winfield.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 June 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

double E , En-car-smash-ee-on (Encore-smash-home-run?), EdTV, E3, Ed-wing, Ed Teach me to walk the parrot

francisF, Monday, 2 June 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link

i can come up with a hundred more totally unviable options upon request. I like Ed-wing, but I just call him Eddie

francisF, Monday, 2 June 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link

Yankees lost tonight, so a four-game lead. Brace yourself, NoTime and Thinwall: I went back through the yearly logs, and the Jays haven't had a four-game lead since 1993.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link

o shiii

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link

amazing.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

I'm not booing, I'm saying "Looooooup."

clemenza, Thursday, 5 June 2014 01:05 (nine years ago) link

I'm waiting for the bottom to fall out, so may as well revel in this for as long as it lasts. They're at .600 right now; the last time I can find them at .600 (excluding small early-season samples) is July 2, 1993, when they were just beginning a bad 10-game stretch.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 June 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

On an 18-4 run, 2nd best record in the league, 4.5 game lead, I can hardly believe I'm typing this.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 5 June 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link

i did math last night. if they play .500 ball the rest of the season, that would still win them the first wild card slot!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

I don't think there will be this much parity until the end of the season, so 86-87 wins won't be enough for the first wild card. We need to top the 88 wins from 1998 so that nobody can say that the Jays winningest season since winning the Series in '92-'93 happened under Tim "hitting a baseball is nothing compared to what I went through in Nam (or not)" Johnson.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

i have not thought about that guy in years.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

This board is full of jokes about him! (mostly mine)

When was the last time we swept the Tigers in Detroit?

The sort of good Jays teams in recent years always crumbled when they faced the best teams in the league. Last years' team had that 11-game win streak and then got crushed by Detroit, Boston, and Tampa Bay.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

Sept. 16-18, 2003, according to some website out of Michigan.

I see a tough June ahead. Three each against the Cardinals and Orioles, six with the Yankees; the rest of their games are against teams around .500 (Reds, Twins, White Sox). Anyway, they can't take wins away, so build up a cushion now when everything's going miraculously right. If they're even playing for a wild card in late September, I'll be happy.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

They were running down Blue Jay teams through 60 games on the radio today. The only ones better than this year were '84, '85, '87 (the best at 39-21), and '92.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link


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