I wish Varys was an ILX moderator. He would have created a new thread for each season. He's a details guy.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 12:51 (nine years ago) link
I have 2 hanging questions about Varys from last episode:1) did the "unfortunately I remember everything" commment to Tyrion refer to something specific? Trying to remember if Tyrion ever intentionally fucked Varys over. Their last big scene was that weird one where Varys had the evil wizard in a crate. Trying to recall if there's a clue there. Or is it more coded - Varys saying yes, I do remember that you saved King's Landing from invasion and being a right-on Hand of the King, and I can't have you around pulling dope moves like that and messing up my game.
Then again - excellent point that he was truthful and did the bare minimum to stay on Cersei's good side. All he testified to was stuff Tyrion said in front of the whole small council, so if he has to make nice with Tyrion later he can always say he didn't tell them anything he didn't already know.
2) When Varys gestures toward the Iron Throne after saying lack of desire has left him free to pursue other things. I read this as him just saying he's just interested in power and controlling who takes the throne through machinations, not that he has any illusions he could be King himself... that much seems pretty clear. But it does imply a more active role than just self-preservation and allying himself with whoever has the advantage. I think Varys and Littlefinger (in tandem or in opposition) are looking to take the Lannisters out - but neither stands a chance of holding the throne themselves, so who are they looking to put into power when Tommen's head reaches its natural home on the end of a spike?
― brio, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
**Varys didn't tell them anything they (the Small council) didn't already know.
― brio, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
also now that the trial episode has aired, I can link this nonsense.
― gyac, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
Oberyn gets better and better with every episode
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
Seeing a lot of praise for Tyrion's final speech but all it made me think of was this tweet
@AGentleBreesHarvard Law: Final Exam. 8) If the Judge says "I find the defendant guilty" then you yell "OF BEING INNOCENT" do you think this would work
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
Or is it more coded - Varys saying yes, I do remember that you saved King's Landing from invasion and being a right-on Hand of the King, and I can't have you around pulling dope moves like that and messing up my game.
I definitely side with this reading more, though I wouldn't say it's coded per se. More like, "You were a decent man, but the tide's against you, and for my own sake, I have to roll with it, to my own chagrin."
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
oh also - who is the bad man in a castle that Roose is going to use Theon to take out? I'm a bit confused as to Boulton ambitions at this point.
― brio, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
i meant Ramsay, not Roose
― brio, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
I think the exact details don't matter at this point; takeaway is that they want Theon to lead a mission for them.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
probably theon's dad.. I can see the boltons trying to carve out a chunk of the north for themselves now that there's a power vacuum
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Didn't Roose express the need to gain access to certain areas the iron islands held atm, which is why he was pissed at Ramsey for going as far as flaying Theon? So now Ramsey is going to solve the problem using an undercover Reek instead of a hostage Theon.
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
Oh, the "certain areas" is moat cailin
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
Also,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxSXGaH79Yk&feature=youtu.be
did the "unfortunately I remember everything" commment to Tyrion refer to something specific? Trying to remember if Tyrion ever intentionally fucked Varys over. Their last big scene was that weird one where Varys had the evil wizard in a crate. Trying to recall if there's a clue there. Or is it more coded - Varys saying yes, I do remember that you saved King's Landing from invasion and being a right-on Hand of the King, and I can't have you around pulling dope moves like that and messing up my game.
Nah it was more "I do remember it and I regret that I have to fuck you over here. There's a scene from the last season where Varys is saying to one of the Tyrells (I think) that Tyrion is basically the one hope for King's Landing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
Ah here we go:
Varys is later present when the Small Council discusses the Red Wedding. He doesn't bother to hide his disgust when Joffrey announces his intention to serve Robb Stark's severed head to Sansa at his wedding. He also looks visibly nervous when Joffrey lashes out at Tywin and accuses him of hiding in Casterly Rock while Robert Baratheon did all the real work in the War of the Usurper. Later that day, Varys seeks out Shae and tells her that Tyrion is the last hope for the current regime, but Shae is a liability that Tyrion and the realm cannot afford. He offers her a pouch of diamonds with which to start a new life in the Free Cities, but she declines.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
BTW why did Ramsay show up to the dungeon covered in blood? Was insinuation that he was into S&M or that he killed the girl
― 龜, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link
i kind of rolled my eyes at the beginning of that sequence so i went to the kitchen and just assume she was cutting him when i saw him turn up bloody like that.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link
There was a scene you missed where he slipped on his shirt and fell into a cactus. It was pretty funny.
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, that's "prickle plant" in Westerosi parlance
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:41 (nine years ago) link
Scratchthorn
― 龜, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link
Lord Scratchthorn wasn't in this ep
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:46 (nine years ago) link
Hope they include the pie juggling scene from book five though, hands down best scene in the books
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:48 (nine years ago) link
GUYS THERE IS A SPOILER THREAD ELSEWHERE.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:58 (nine years ago) link
Oh c'mon when Lord Scratchthorn drops the pie and out comes the shadow kitten my jaw dropped and I cried
― Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 06:17 (nine years ago) link
Ser Pounce keeps trying to eat Lord Scratchthorn to settle his stomach. Then throws up on the bathroom mat ON PURPOSE I swear.
― Evan, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/13/game-of-thrones-sibel-kekilli-discusses-shae-s-treachery-at-the-trial-of-tyrion-lannister.html
― Evan, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link
I'm rewatching season one again and just picked up on that Jora is the night watch Lord Commander's son. whoa
― Dreamland, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
Taunts by the Meerenese champion:
Byjan vavi demble eva o, trezy eme verdje espo jimi! Oa mysa iles me nýnyghi, si oa kiba tuziles espo tomistos!“I fart in your general direction, son of a window-dresser! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!”
Já si hojgá oa gundja, trezy eme mero dovodedha!“Go and boil your bottom, son of a silly person!”
Kiman nya másina orvorta va oi sodjistos!“I wave my private parts at your aunties!”
Do eban av kimívagho dombo, o doru-borto pame espo gruzi evi havor espo begistos!“I don’t want to talk to you no more you empty-headed animal food trough wiper!”
Ghorgan ji pungo va o, nynta Dare espo Zaldrizes, o si une oi dovodedhi, Vesterozi azzzzzantys.“I blow my nose at you, so-called Dragon Queen, you and all your silly Westerosi kaniggets!”
― panic disorder pixie (Sanpaku), Thursday, 15 May 2014 07:48 (nine years ago) link
littlefinger confirmed for switching accents mid sentence. homeboy sounds confused about how he should talk
― building a desert (art), Monday, 19 May 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link
scene hadn't ended as I was typing. ick times a million
― building a desert (art), Monday, 19 May 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that was definitely an icky moment, but this is a show that really traffics in icky moments.
I was glad to see Hot Pie again. Sort of comforting to know that in the midst of all this blood and chaos, he's just been chilling at the tavern making kidney pies and pontificating about gravy.
― zchyrs, Monday, 19 May 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
Did they change the actor for the Mountain?
Who was that dude?
― Dreamland, Monday, 19 May 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
They've had three actors play the part of the Mountain now.
Brienne made a joke!
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 19 May 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
Really?This was the last one I remember
http://media.tumblr.com/34868e8724fe76a2197c0ef2c355faba/tumblr_inline_mgskyabpT81r8lpsh.jpg
― Dreamland, Monday, 19 May 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link
He was #1. Number two was a really skinny guy. Now we're on the third.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 19 May 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120402121948/gameofthrones/images/0/06/Gregor_Viewer%27s_Guide.jpg
this was season 2 gregor
― Clay, Monday, 19 May 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link
Third guy is way too young to be believable as the Hound's older brother...
Second guy was just way too skinny.
First guy was perfect in every way. Should have brought him back...
― Evan, Monday, 19 May 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link
third gregor
http://37.media.tumblr.com/98f044278c4b3894dadf2efbd1c5881e/tumblr_n2t2r52JI61rtj3g0o1_1280.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 May 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link
Two weeks!
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 19 May 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link
Well played, Veg.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 19 May 2014 05:12 (nine years ago) link
:D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 May 2014 05:17 (nine years ago) link
this Dornish fellow, I like him. p sure he is going to die but you gotta respect how far he'll go for vengeance
note to self: scrap moondoor plans
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 May 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link
Liked the Beckett-esque discussion with the dying peasant about going on living out of habit.
― Try Leuchars More! (dowd), Monday, 19 May 2014 09:59 (nine years ago) link
Hound and Arya scenes all gold this week. All season in fact.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 19 May 2014 12:13 (nine years ago) link
Daario most unconvincing lover man ever
I think he was quivering
― 龜, Monday, 19 May 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
"Nothing is not better nor worse, it's just nothing."
This narrows down a point I always try to make about how death isn't really ever a "solution" for personal suffering when philosophical conversations bring me there.
― Evan, Monday, 19 May 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Transition from Waiting for Godot into actual zombie survival movie not appreciated
― 龜, Monday, 19 May 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link
i liked that line, but mostly because she said "Nothing is not better or worse than anything" which somehow puts it into a kind of ontological tailspin.
― ryan, Monday, 19 May 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Felt so bad for the Hound, cause I remembered that David Lee of the Golden State Warriors almost died because somebody bit his elbow and it got infected
― 龜, Monday, 19 May 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link