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My dad lives some kind of charmed life. He's out in Portland, ME for work and is leading a tour of Allagash brewery tomorrow. NB he is an archaeology professor so I don't really get the connection but shit, sounds like a good gig to me.

dan m, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

got a nice box of oregon stuff from beer thread poster psychgawsple, and normally i would drink a few more and post some quick hit thoughts, but i need to take some time to praise the heater allen pils. i consider myself a czach pils fan, and not only is this the only u.s. pils i have ever had that is worth a damn, it is just an outstanding pils in general. fresh, good malt character, nice hop spice and really dry finish. extremely well-made, quality is evident in the clarity, lacing, mouthfeel, etc.

making a pils is hard. to turn out that product from a tiny brewery (and assuming their batches are consistent) is pretty impressive.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 May 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link

hi CaD while you are in nyc/bklyn this week, trust me and :
drink Singlecut "Dean" Mahogany Ale
and any IPA from Other Half
if you see 'em.

my fave local beers.

ian, Thursday, 15 May 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link

aw thanks, i'll keep an eye out!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 May 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link

singlecut has a fun tasting room in queens, but i'm not sure if singlecut does or not.
if you want any other rec's relative to where you're gonna be, let me know. i have drank a lot of beer in a lot of bars tbh.

ian, Thursday, 15 May 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

i mean.... not sure if other half does. i think they were planning to open a tap room but i haven't followed up.

ian, Thursday, 15 May 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

http://chibeerweek.com/schedule/

My liver and wallet may not recover from the next 11 days.

Jeff, Thursday, 15 May 2014 01:34 (ten years ago) link

xp we're staying in a boring part of manhattan, i expect we might make it to brooklyn on one of the days we're there but if you happen to have any manhattan recs i'd love em.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 May 2014 01:35 (ten years ago) link

in manhattan, ginger man and blind tiger are both great, though usually clogged with postwork crowds. i like 124 old rabbit club and burp castle a lot for belgian stuff, though it's highly likely that you've had them all in boston already.

i've repped it upthread already but peekskill has just been awesome lately, and i second ian's recommendations re: other half and singlecut.

if you make it out to brooklyn you should give me a holler - i'm always good for a trip to torst, barcade, one stop beer shop, brouwerij lane/dirck the norseman...

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 15 May 2014 02:50 (ten years ago) link

glad you liked the heater allen pils! such a good beer to drink with food. they're based in mcminnville, which is one of the larger willamette valley wine hubs, i need to check out the brewery sometime but usually when i'm in that area i'm neither in the mood for beer nor in a state where i should consume more alcohol. they make the best malty beers too... their maibock (lenz bock) is one of the best i've ever tasted in the style, the perfect pizza beer. the normal bock (hugo) and their dunkels are also awesome.

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 15 May 2014 03:23 (ten years ago) link

I had that pils last week, it was indeed excellent

KrafTwerk (sleeve), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

Any fans of la microbrasse québécoise on this thread? I have a tremendous, almost alarming, amount of experience in this area and would love to discuss with other Montrealers or provide recommendation to other heads planning a summer visit.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Picked up a bottle of that New Holland Dragon's Milk w/ Chiles last night. I'm curious. Dragon's Milk is a solid brand of its ilk, overshadowed by all the hard to obtain white elephants.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link

got a chance to try the tropical slam variation of sticky hands, it reminded me of a more refined version of sucks. tropical fruit and coconut maltiness, taste it if you can (probably just talking to sleeve here lol, even within oregon this seems mega-limited).

also the green flash road warrior is great! probably my favorite rye-pa to date, the flavors come through well without tasting too much like rye liquor or being overly bitter

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link

I'm so glad Chicago Craft Beer Week exists and is a thing, but I'm going to celebrate it by digging into what I've got at home. None of the events I've been to in the past few years have really been worth the crowds and hassle. Maybe if I lived closer to some of these things I'd give 'em a try, but just feels like too much work right now. I'll just crack something open at home where I can play whatever music I want and actually have some personal space.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

i picked up another bottle of that Dragon's Milk reserve because i was kinda craving it, hope you like it.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

Jon yr plan sounds perfect imo

xp thanks psychgawsple, I saw that on tap the other day and wondered abt it

KrafTwerk (sleeve), Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link

j/v/c, I'm pretty picky with the events I attend. Main one I'm looking forward to is the Sunday Funday at the new Goose Island Barrel warehouse. Mini-golf, dodge ball, and beer. Also going to one of the Beer Temple events.

Jeff, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not saying some of these don't sound fun, esp that Goose Island one, I've wanted to check that out, I'm just not sure I'm up to the crowds. Admittedly, doesn't help that I'm under a huge deadline at work and will likely be in the office most of the weekend.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

Anyone tried this one?

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24300/90585/

polyphonic, Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link

that makes me want to quit drinking

dan m, Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link

someone itt sent me a bottle of that

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

I had the same reaction as dan, though I have heard some friends enthuse about it.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Had it, liked it.

Jeff, Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link

excellent beer actually, and i didn't realize when i sent it to cad but it's as much a play on justin as it is on http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/388/36316/

Mordy, Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

I saw it at my favorite snobby beer store but couldn't justify buying it just for the silly bottle. Evil Twin has never let me down though.

polyphonic, Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

kinda want to try that despite the terrible bottle, still in search of a good cheap summer berliner in bottles (full sail had one last year that was pretty solid actually, hopefully they do it again). so much evil twin hatred in this thread! which is weird to me b/c i've barely tried anything by them but have enjoyed what little i remember

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 15 May 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link

I'm pro evil twin. Has been more consistent than his bro.

Jeff, Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:27 (ten years ago) link

Ha I am on the far far other end of that opinion, I've never had a mikkeller I wasn't fairly amazed by, evil twin is good 50% of the time but not as good as the mikkeller stuff, and the other 50% is completely awful.

Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

I agree that Mikkeller is better

polyphonic, Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

Both of them release too many beers.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:32 (ten years ago) link

So one of the Three Floyd's/Bruery collabs in one sale at the brewpub in Muster today, a bargain at only $30 a bottle! Heard great things about those but, uh, $30. Huh.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 May 2014 15:36 (ten years ago) link

i thought those were infected and were thus "discounted" to $20, different beer?

http://thefullpint.com/beer-news/interesting-news-regarding-bruery-3-floyds-collaboration/

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link

Hmm. Three Floyd's just posted on their FB page 2 hours ago, saying $30. Interesting.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 May 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

So nobody interested in fields of salmon's guide to la micro québécoise ? Sauvages.

fields of salmon, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link

i had a great time a dieu du ciel a couple years back but no mtl plans in the offing

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link

i live not close to there and have no plans to visit anytime soon. you should probably tell us about it anyways tho

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 16 May 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Not gonna reload the thread but Boulevard Rye on Rye is totally great if you haven't had it.

dan m, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link

Concur

Jeff, Saturday, 17 May 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Lagunitas nighttime is cheap but meh.

Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Saturday, 17 May 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link

I am in Singapore where beer options are basically Tiger, Singha, a couple of Carlsbergs and Heiniken. Bombers cost $6 US and you drink it out of a mug over ice which actually is perfect in this particular circumstance.

The only American beer I've seen was a six pack of Colt 45 cans that cost $18.

joygoat, Saturday, 17 May 2014 08:12 (ten years ago) link

Works everytime.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 May 2014 12:12 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnzkk8SIcAElcub.png

Went to the Goose Island Barrel Warehouse event yesterday. Above is what the tappings were throughout the day. It was extremely well run, the lines moved super fast with probably 4 oz pours of bourbon county each time. And when you were waiting in line for the next one to tap, they'd bring pitchers of the leftovers for the previous tasting to pour for people in line. And then there were the guest taps....

Needless to say, by the time I got to Coffee, I was pretty much gone. Probably should have stopped there, but I powered through. For better or for worse. Mostly worse. And I've got seven more days of craft beer week to get through.

Jeff, Monday, 19 May 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link

http://traffic.libsyn.com/basicbrewing/bbr07-07-11vinnie.mp3
(keynote starts around 4m30s, content starts around 13m40s)

Kind of technical/dry but very informative Basic Brewing podcast, 78mins with Vinnie Cilurzo of Russian River talking about 25 years of brewing starting from home in San Diego, starting a brewery, inventing the double IPA, pioneering wild yeast and barrel aging techniques in the USA, cultivating and testing experimental hop strains like CFJ90 (predecessor to Centennial) & 369, basic history lesson from someone who started in the garage and ended up as one of the most influential brewers in the USA if not the world.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 19 May 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link

Courtesy of call all destroyer, I'm drinking Pretty Things Grampus which is subtitled Hoppy Golden Double Mash. Very surprisingly sweet, and then booooooze. It's not bad but it wouldn't be something I'd usually reach for, I wish I had someone to share with but my wife took one sip and then poured herself a glass of wine instead. It's almost like a bigger, sugarier Hopslam.

dan m, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

Btw can anyone tell me the name of the DC beer/cocktail bar with the wallet-emptying tap list that has been referenced a few times itt? Pretty sure I DIED mentioned it...

dan m, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 00:52 (ten years ago) link

Churchkey?

Jeff, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link

Sadly pretty sure I hate this years Sierra Nevada hoptimum. Molasses sweet, gross mouth feel, hop throat itch. Always tastes like it's too warm no matter how cold it is, or at least that's my best impressionistic description.

Oh also, why oh why do I ever give 21st amendments monks blood a second chance. Night of beer fail.

that's what hoptimum always tastes like imo

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:50 (ten years ago) link

I was up in Kingston NY (home of Keegan's Ales) and I tried a Keegan's Old Capital. Man, what a lousy beer.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 02:51 (ten years ago) link


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