interesting
― Nhex, Friday, 16 May 2014 04:53 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/1KdE2r4.png
― 龜, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 11:16 (nine years ago) link
France.
― JimD, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 11:19 (nine years ago) link
Seriously??
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link
what am i looking at here
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
oh igi. well, let's hope that was randomly generated, then --
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/700065-awful-trayvon-martin-reference-found-in-watch-dogs?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=awful-trayvon-martin-reference-found-in-watch-dogs
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/07/04/hearthstone-tournament-no-women-changes/
― Mordy, Friday, 4 July 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/08/kotaku-and-zoe-quinn-accused-of-exchanging-positive-press-for-sex/
Yikes!
― schwantz, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
*rmde*
― Nhex, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
Voice your comments below, but please, please keep it civil and free from personal attacks.
I mean is this just something that gets tacked to the end of everything written for this site, because it's completely against the gleeful "just desserts" vibe of the rest of the text
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
i wasted 10 minutes of my breathing life scrolling through this dude's operatic 4 part tumblr post and didn't see anything about trading good press for sex? are they just inventing that out of the 'she had sex with a games writer' accusation or did i miss it?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
no it's in there - but i don't think he accuses her of doing it for favors.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
anyway, o_O at this thing. honestly i feel pretty bad for this dude. he got gaslit pretty bad.
on a scale of not-very-likely to utter horseshit this seems like utter horseshit
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
just checked that developer's twitter feed and she seems to have undergone/is undergoing a barrage of harassment from 4chan shitboys. i'll assume this blog post ref'ing a tumblr is trash
there's no mention of this on kotaku?
― goole, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
"If you’re not a huge fan of Kotaku or the infamous social justice warrior / indie developer Zoe Quinn, you’re in for a treat."
grossest sentence
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
http://ohdeargodbees.tumblr.com/post/95188657119/once-again-i-will-not-negotiate-with-terroristsbasically, looks like the internet took the side of a douchebag ex-boyfriend in humiliating and degrading this woman, to no one's surprise
― Nhex, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
i think as a rule that private relationships should be kept private and i don't think - whatever she did - that it deserved whatever kind of heat she's now getting from the psychopaths on 4chan. still, i find the guy's narrative very believable + sympathetic, and i can understand if he really went through that why he'd want to hurt her publicly. i still think trying to do so is a shitty thing to do, and appropriate for this thread.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
cheating is bad and ugly breakups are bad but airing out your dirty laundry on the internet is fucking bitchmade and siccing the cheetoh-dust army on your ex who works in technology is evil
― goole, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
yes, i agree. ppl are shit.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
He's scum for taking it public. End of story.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
trading good press for sex?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:36 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't think he accuses her of doing it for favors.
― Mordy, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ok soooo--if he *doesn't* accuse her of doing it for favors, the writers are inventing the quid pro quo? which isn't, say, airing your ex girlfriend's sexual history in a giant tumblr post and blasting it at 4chan knowing they'll spew horror at her level of crazy irresponsible and shitty and misgynistic, but is pretty irresponsible and shitty and misogynistic?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
yeah when you have been wronged & lied to there's a strong impluse to LET THE WORLD KNOW but damn if some shame wouldn't be a perverse help to this guy right now. what is it with nerds and total disclosure these days? the "hypocrisy" of the normals has its uses, guys...
xp yeah i agree, i wasn't speaking against your post Mordy
― goole, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
my basic takeaway is that most people involved in videogames should be set on fire, which is too bad because I really enjoy videogames and I think the screaming would keep me up at night
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
GameBurner 2014 - The Baconing
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
RIP upper m m s
Xp
― 龜, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
a lot of ppl are upset bc in general the gaming media is horrible and it seems like a journalist gave a designer good publicity without disclosing that they were in a relationship. while i agree that the cheating + the lying + the gaslighting are probably not in the public interest, i can understand why ppl already enflamed about compromised journalistic standards would take interest in this story.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
like i'm sure they didn't trade sexual favors for good coverage. the good coverage was pretty minimal and that seems unnecessarily vulgar. but i wasn't allowed to review books written by ppl i had once taken classes w/ in college years prior bc of the conflict of interest. otoh there seem to be far worse stuff going on in gaming media, like blatant payola for coverage stuff.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
― goole, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:59 PM (51 minutes ago)
^^^
― emil.y, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
can we not call it bitchmade tho like
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link
if she wasn't actually swapping sex for good reviews how are the original blog/this woeful gamerheadlines piece not slander or libellous? and either way, these pieces are just absolutely disgusting. her riposte is very strong and stirring, and she's right - she shouldn't have to defend any of this stuff in public.
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link
Xp: can we also not be down on people who eat cheeto dust, while we're at it?
― how's life, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 10:47 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, actually, my eyes elided over 'bitchmade', probably because I have no idea what it means? Is it a US thing or am I just behind on my internet slang? Obv anything with 'bitch' is going to be at least a little problematic.
Anyway, the general thrust of goole's post is still OTM.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link
also
Among them was current Kotaku writer Nathan Grayson, apparently solicitating sexual favours for positive press.
so solicitating is a word now?
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:26 (nine years ago) link
leveraging her sexual connections
this guy's whole take on sex and women is unsurprisingly weird and awkward and how you might expect an extra terrestrial to discuss human behaviour when viewed from afar
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link
https://thezoepost.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/screen-shot-2014-08-19-at-7-07-56-pm.png
is astonishingly asinine and self-serving bullshit
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:31 (nine years ago) link
did i ever talk about how i went to my brother's convocation from college (diff in Canada, college != university, actually not 100% sure of the american analogue to this -- technical college? junior college? you can take anything from a 6mo bartending course to a 4y PR course) in this thread?
he convocated (sry not a word) with the entire media division of his school, he was in radio but i also saw the kids go up for tv, PR, advertising, etc etc etc including game design. as someone working in that field my heart was mildly warmed to see the bright new faces of the industry get their diploma-certificate-things. i was significantly less warmed to see more fedoras worn with gowns (2) than women (0). :( always reminded that the overwhelming sameness of the people working in the industry doesn't just start at the corporate level, it starts super super low. i was hoping, i guess?, that at the age newly graduating, the gap would be decreasing -- after all, everyone, not just boys of families with means, have had computers and internet from... almost birth at this point! and yet, something is still happening where the culture even at the education level is still homogenized. i dont get why the priv sector doesn't see this as a problem. of course tho investing in scholarships and grants for women would be seen as an attack on MENS RIGHTS or something idk. the whole thing BUMS ME OUT. :(
― Neckbread (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
i meant to say something a day ago re: "bitchmade" and didn't. it's an ugly coinage when unpacked even just a little. so, yeah.
― goole, Friday, 22 August 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
in the '90s bitchmade meant 'awesome' (probably?)
― polyphonic, Friday, 22 August 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link
some good news:http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/female-adults-oust-teenage-boys-largest-gaming-demographic/
― Mordy, Friday, 22 August 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
have not investigated much beyond headlines but apparently a couple internet creepo types made a 'documentary' 'exposing' anita sarkeesian (sp)
just a heads up i guess
― goole, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
or 'are making' more accurately
― goole, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
why can't any of these be as entertaining as "In Search of Bigfoot"
― Nhex, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
re: the documentary, I liked a lot about this piece:
http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/26/video-games-misogyny-and-terrorism-a-guide-to-assholes
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link
But it’s hard to self-identify as “a gamer” when there’s also a large swathe of that community apparently committed to presenting us all as a bunch of hateful sociopaths. It’s like being a moderate Muslim in the middle of the continuing ISIS takeover and oppression of Iraq.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link
heh
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
Maybe the ISIS dudes met on 4chan.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
since even relative-anonymity on the internet makes ppl act like assholes, obv the answer is:
http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/panopticon-diagram.jpg
― Mordy, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
haha why didn't i watch this before
these guys are amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROHvvtUcp8I
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link