Macklemore, "Same Love"

The couple black Macklemore fans I have met, I have questioned whether they are actual Don Lemon clones.

ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho

― goole, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he said, panicky

but run-dmc/aerosmith makes sense as like rock crossover, as did at least some of the beastie boys they played (sabotage, fight for your right)

it might have made sense if those same rock stations had also played run-dmc's "rock box" or "king of rock" once in a while, but i don't recall that ever happening. the only crossover rock stations cared about was crossing over to white faces on the album cover.

you guys are dumb mackelmore def has a demographic like all artists do to a certain extent but with him particularly hes had a p long career of building a hardcore grassroots audience that has is a v specific demo, then he got a few huge hits, I guess u cld call everyone who thinks thrift shop is good a macklemore "fan" its p obvs that they're not too committed, now if you look at the history of music charts just because you make some hits doesnt mean you then make hits forever sometimes you dont and you lose those casual fans, but if like macklemore you have those hardcore fans to fall back on thats good, even prob through your hits you've managed to pickup more hardcore fans of a similar type to yr previous hardcore fans, and fwiw he was not at all just some rando undie rapper before his hits he was doing p good for himself, my feeling is based on the kinda amateurish quality if his music that he will more likely be a flash in the pan nothing abt his music saying pro hit maker to me

Yeah, I definitely said he'd be famous forever, not that he'd have probably 2-3 more records as a "star" before fading a little, but still always being able to fill a respectable venue. I also called him a "moderately successful undie rapper," which as you pointed out is totally distinct from "he was doing p good for himself."

For what it's worth, the career trajectory I predict for dude is probably closest to, like, Mumford & Sons; not guaranteed famous forever, but not a quick Alanis Morissette-style fade from broad popularity. My feeling is based on my interactions with a ton of 21- to 24-year-olds in a random professional setting, many of whom were more than casual fans and were all about The Heist.

Hell, I may be wrong. Honestly kind of hope I am.

I think without the benefit of social media, Macklemore would've gone the way of Arrested Development or PM Dawn after his time in the spotlight. Now, though, he can stay in people's faces indefinitely.

predict 1st single from next album peaks at #22 next one fails to break the top 50, hes still oddly popular but no one notices

over two million people follow him on twitter, so someone likes him

u guys need to find better metrics than twitter followers and 22 y/os at work imo

ok i'll do a survey

i think there is definitely a lot of trying to define the macklemore audience as NOT LIKE ME in this thread because people dont like his music

Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were. He's had 4 top 15 hits off the same record. Totally possible that it's all driven by casual fans and there has only been a minor change in his core fanbase; I'm just predicting otherwise.

fair point on the coworkers thing. Just some anecdata to add to the stuff I just posted.

Who knows, maybe he'll Alanis, that'd be fine with me.

can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan

yeah, fair point. sorry about that; I was totally the driver on both those things.

seems like only yesterday that he was performing in an anti-semitic costume in front of hundreds of cheering people

Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were.

Probably true. I just used them as an example of posi-hiphop that people who say "I don't like rap, but..." generally gravitate towards. This guy's fame graph has bell curve all over it, though.

can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan

it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation

when i try to open this whole thread chrome gives me a malware warning i feel like there's a joke here somewhere

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Posted: May 21, 2014 at 2:39:06 AM

it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation

:( true

ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho

― goole, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=northern+state

lol sg

lol had not heard about this before:

During the 2013 NBA Playoffs, the Oklahoma City Thunder were using the song "Can't Hold Us"[10] to pump up the crowd during their games. Macklemore, a Seattle native and fan of the former Seattle SuperSonics, requested that the Thunder, who moved from Seattle to Oklahoma City in 2008, not play the song. The Thunder acquiesced.[11]

http://i.imgur.com/xSERKuU.png

makes sense.

ha of course

typical. showbiz jews taking care of their own.

distinguishing factors between macklemore versus pm dawn/arrested development hmm

get a vibe from this guy like, googlebot assigned to index buzzfeed listicles/upworthy videos achieves sentience, starts rapping

/thread

That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong

the matisyahu comparison is best. they both like to ripoff hip-hop and they both like to pretend to be jewish.

mordy you know self-confession is the basis of all faith

That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong

I may repost this about a billion times on this thread

sounds legit xp

can we talk about xgau's gross northern state reviews for a second tho: Three white-girl voices from the farthest reaches of Nassau County: Hesta Prynn angular and willfully ill-bred, Guinea Love zaftig and a touch guttural, the misleadingly handled DJ Sprout well-rounded and sometimes pretty.

dude is such a fuckin creep

Still like that first arrested development album. as well as a couple PM dawn albums.

why would anyone shit on arrested development?

PM Dawn and AD have nothing to do with each other though other than hair.

everybody on the money about Arrested Development except whoever dragged them in in the first place

PM Dawn has definitely been vindicated by how much rap has embraced gauzy, euro synth textures, cloud rap, etc

just checking, macklemore really only has one album that anyone's bought and he's been coasting off it since 2012, right?

Look, I never questioned how good or bad Arrested Development were. I brought them up as a comparison to normal white people engaging with hip hop for a minute until they're bored with it and move on to the next thing. Those are the buttons Macklemore is pushing.

the first rap CD i paid for with my own money was Arrested Development Unplugged, it's a wonder i didn't grow up to BE Macklemore tbh

arrested development is p bad tho

Probably because you couldn't draw when you were in the third grade xp