Macklemore, "Same Love"

can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan

yeah, fair point. sorry about that; I was totally the driver on both those things.

seems like only yesterday that he was performing in an anti-semitic costume in front of hundreds of cheering people

Yeah, but he's also way more popular than Arrested Development or PM Dawn ever were.

Probably true. I just used them as an example of posi-hiphop that people who say "I don't like rap, but..." generally gravitate towards. This guy's fame graph has bell curve all over it, though.

can we stop this is dumb i apologize for starting it this used to be a cool thread for making fun of maklemore before people started writing dissertations abt a good tweet and arguing abt the meaning of the word fan

it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation

when i try to open this whole thread chrome gives me a malware warning i feel like there's a joke here somewhere

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Posted: May 21, 2014 at 2:39:06 AM

it's not just the thread that's the internet now, you want a joke you get a dissertation

:( true

ha he's always excused well-meaning liberal garbage tho

― goole, Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=northern+state

lol sg

lol had not heard about this before:

During the 2013 NBA Playoffs, the Oklahoma City Thunder were using the song "Can't Hold Us"[10] to pump up the crowd during their games. Macklemore, a Seattle native and fan of the former Seattle SuperSonics, requested that the Thunder, who moved from Seattle to Oklahoma City in 2008, not play the song. The Thunder acquiesced.[11]

http://i.imgur.com/xSERKuU.png

makes sense.

ha of course

typical. showbiz jews taking care of their own.

distinguishing factors between macklemore versus pm dawn/arrested development hmm

get a vibe from this guy like, googlebot assigned to index buzzfeed listicles/upworthy videos achieves sentience, starts rapping

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That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong

the matisyahu comparison is best. they both like to ripoff hip-hop and they both like to pretend to be jewish.

mordy you know self-confession is the basis of all faith

That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong

I may repost this about a billion times on this thread

sounds legit xp

can we talk about xgau's gross northern state reviews for a second tho: Three white-girl voices from the farthest reaches of Nassau County: Hesta Prynn angular and willfully ill-bred, Guinea Love zaftig and a touch guttural, the misleadingly handled DJ Sprout well-rounded and sometimes pretty.

dude is such a fuckin creep

Still like that first arrested development album. as well as a couple PM dawn albums.

why would anyone shit on arrested development?

PM Dawn and AD have nothing to do with each other though other than hair.

everybody on the money about Arrested Development except whoever dragged them in in the first place

PM Dawn has definitely been vindicated by how much rap has embraced gauzy, euro synth textures, cloud rap, etc

just checking, macklemore really only has one album that anyone's bought and he's been coasting off it since 2012, right?

Look, I never questioned how good or bad Arrested Development were. I brought them up as a comparison to normal white people engaging with hip hop for a minute until they're bored with it and move on to the next thing. Those are the buttons Macklemore is pushing.

the first rap CD i paid for with my own money was Arrested Development Unplugged, it's a wonder i didn't grow up to BE Macklemore tbh

arrested development is p bad tho

Probably because you couldn't draw when you were in the third grade xp

why would anyone shit on arrested development?

― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:07 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there was a moment of critical obsession that verged a bit hysterical in the mid-90s when most white critics were ignoring illmatic

nowadays its swung pretty hard the other way and m@tt otm

Dunno if you got yer years right dee

i knew so many people who were on some i dont usually like rap shit with AD so JFs point stands imho

which is not to say that theyre like mackelm in other ways

3 years came out in march 92, illmatic april 94.

A GAME OF HORSESHOES

White critics weren't the only ones saying "save us, speech, you're are only hope" when G thang dropped

I think his point was that throughout the mid-90s when lots of great rap was still being overlooked by music critics, it kind of became emblematic of "This is the rap that white rock critics think is great, lol, c'mon!" Not that it was specifically being supported over Illmatic in 94, just kind of became Exhibit A of "White rock critics just don't understand"

Totally correct me if I'm wrong though.

Yeah it's just revisionist to pretend the enthusiasm was white only for a group loved by Randall Keenan, spike lee, Danyel smith, etc. plenty of black writers were glad for a popular alternative to gangsta

saying they were busy ignoring an album that wouldn't come out until AD dropped Zingalamaduni just reaffirms the perspective is askew

http://books.google.com/books?id=hcbFj_1xS7QC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=arrested+development+children+of+the+revolution+spin&source=bl&ots=bNsf6QvEn2&sig=Xk3cxuayxfmKhZxEKBaKsY2Js5I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A818U6W_N4TuoASYh4HgCA&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=arrested%20development%20children%20of%20the%20revolution%20spin&f=false

AD was so awful

in case anybody forgot

totally fascist, right?

AD & M/RL are comparable in as far as they're marketed as an alternative to the rap norm, and in that the spokespeople aren't as liberal-minded as the hype suggests, but it should be pretty obvious that a song like "Tennessee" is infinitely more heartfelt and refreshing a perspective than "Same Love."