william basinski - is this the best ambient/drone stuff around or what?

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the disintegration loops set? fe has the 4 cds for $42 total.

tricky disco, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

it's cute. i wouldn't trade my 39 cent copy of "steppenwolf at your birthday party" for his stuff, though.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw him perform the "disintegration loops" live. he sat behind a laptop and queued up mp3s, blending them into one another.

pretty, but i prefer basic channel.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

(4x$13=$52)+$4.50=$56.50

Expensive loops.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

So how short are these loops? I was wondering. I really like the idea of this stuff but I don’t really have an idea what it sounds like.

Orange, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

There are some samples at Aquarius Records, Orange.

$42? Who or what is "FE"? $70's the amount that William quoted me in an email. (They sell for $20 each, shipping included on his website.)

Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"FE" is Forced Exposure, they're selling them for $13 each.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

excuse my lack of rudimentary multiplication skills!! hey, at least there's no tax if you buy from fe, also, they have a flat shipping price. regardless, it's worth it.

tricky disco, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

http://fe.org/artists/basinski.william.html

tricky disco, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Mm, nice.

Orange, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

btw, if you like his loop set, you should check out "melancholia." i have everything the guy has made public, and his loop series and melanchollia are the most outstanding of what he has to offer in the ambient/drone area.

dddddddd, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
I've heard 21 minutes of "The Disintegration Loops" Part IV, and my gut answer to the thread title is already "YES". On another thread, Mike Daddino compared the distortion and fuzziness to Gas, which I wholeheartedly agree with -- but Gas has never done anything as serene, as tranquil, or as ENDLESS as this.

I'm listening to mp3's, but I'd have to think that the loss of fidelity, particularly for the more distorted parts, is significant for music like this (even though these mp3's were recorded at a VBR). Do I need to find the CD's to experience this properly?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Incredible stuff. It's like #19 from SAW II on a never-ending loop. Or 777's "Fay Deau Deau". Ad infinitum. Man, this shit just goes on forever.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Revive. After only having heard The Disintergration Loops" (which I loved dearly), decided to check out "Variations: A Movement in Chrome Primitive". Really beautiful stuff, it's the supreme non-activity music for me, and makes me totally worthless. I just completely zone out. Music created for lethargy.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the thread title is arguably accurate. best stuff i've heard next to philip jeck's longer pieces, keith fullerton whitman, and rafael toral.

rssgnld, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Really beautiful stuff, it's the supreme non-activity music for me, and makes me totally worthless. I just completely zone out. Music created for lethargy.

this statement perfectly describes my relationship with good ambient music.

rssgfnl, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I love it! Gas - Pop is still my favorite in this category though, and some of the stuff on kompakt's Pop Ambient comps is drop-whatever-you're-doing beautiful too.

sleep (sleep), Thursday, 20 January 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link

OTM about gas "pop"

i sleep to basinski and gas!

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 January 2005 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link

i've been interested to hear this guy but my friend told me it was boring, can someone describe it to me?

zach farver, Thursday, 20 January 2005 05:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I used them as the soundtrack to reading through the Infinity Gauntlet-War-Crusade trilogy this weekend. It was fun.

D.J. Anderson, Thursday, 20 January 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"Pop" is too much like the Kompakt Pop Ambient stuff to be primo ambient/drone material. "Koenigsforst" is the best for that -- stark, lonely, very lo-fi, and the cover looks like something a Black Metal band would do.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 20 January 2005 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

deathprod!

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

deathprod solo is definitely comparable to basinski, but not as magical sounding and not varied enough, MOSTD. supersilent have yet to put out a truly good record.

rssgl, Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
i'm not sure about this, here seems to be something fake about the whole enterprise. the end result is somewhat dull and the 9/11 links seem both extremely strained and too obvious.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Basinski's heart is in the right place, from the conversations I've had with him; despite the pseudo-intellectual marketing smokescreen that he gleefully buys into, he's quite humble about his work, which makes it more appealing even when the platitudes get a bit heavy.

That said, I don't think he's the best out there, but it depends on what you want out of your drones - I think Phill Niblock and Steve Reich (Four Organs in particular) have done more powerful/arresting work, but I do enjoy Basinski's stuff lots.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

fans schould check out Andrew Chalk. especially The River That Flows into the Sands

rizzx, Friday, 21 April 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

From everything I've heard of WB, he's a one-trick pony. But I sure do luv that one trick. Listening to Shortwavemusic now, and it's great.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i still haven't heard/acquired disintegration loops

river wolf, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Also very good. I wonder if there's any truth the rumor that Madonna is a fan.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised, she's kind of a dilettante.

Is drone the opposite of Beethoven or what? I mean, it's the antithesis of structure, of arc. It's the anti-arc! Does that make sense? Sorry, I'm kind of a dilettante.

Rich Smörgasbord, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Disintegration Loops = one of the greatest recordings of the century. Seriously. river wolf, make it the next thing you buy, man!

Manalishi, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 07:17 (sixteen years ago) link

over-rated. Alva Novo's "Xerrox" does the sma ething better and in a more interesting way.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, this is Billy Basinski aka Z-man?

Whoa, small world. He adopted/produced my first band in NYC. I've got to hear this, I bet it's incredible.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe Masonna is a fan, and someone thought there was a typo.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I also really love the "River" double CD, I think Raster-Noton put it out. But it's all good.

sleeve, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

which disintegration loops vol. is best? i'm about to give the first one a go

am0n, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish he would record under "Z-Man"

circa1916, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link

am0n, having only heard vols I & II I'd recommend the latter. Its "DLP3" is really haunting/captivating.

willem, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i got all four. loving them. the second track on II is the shit, the comment upthread about SAW II #19 on repeat is apt

am0n, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

that would be loop 3. bliss.

willem, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I suppose non-drone music is anthropomorphic, in that it has a beginning, a middle, and an end.

Rich Smörgasbord, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

who among us is enjoying El Camino Real?

Tape loop, recorded live, Los Angeles, July 2006.
First 300 copies came numbered and signed.

Want (and want to have been there)

jergïns, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I could totally fall asleep listening to this.

ledge, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

(I gave up on falling asleep to The Disintegration Loops 'cause they're a bit too melancholic.)

ledge, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

word

am0n, Thursday, 26 July 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link

totally.

Drooone, Thursday, 26 July 2007 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

El Camino Real is some incredible stuff.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

When did this come out? Info? Link?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.mmlxii.com/home/home.html

May this year.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

El Camino Real

jergïns, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

he's on bbc6 freak zone this week talking about stuff. probably these upcoming gigs.

http://www.factmag.com/2013/11/20/william-basinski-to-recreate-his-storied-arcadia-venue-in-east-london-recruits-charlemagne-palestine-and-rhys-chatham-for-shows/

koogs, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 09:23 (ten years ago) link

(which start tonight)

koogs, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 09:24 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

Performing in Pasadena next month: http://axsfestival.org/2014/program/solunaris/

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:33 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

only really knowing basinski as the disintegration loops guy, this is somewhat surprising to see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmL3NR9nrFI

cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

i had a heavy phase with this guy years ago, i even got to do an amazing phone interview with him once...but for some reason, for the past year or so, i just haven't been able to get the same feeling out of his music. i still let it run when a track comes up in my sleep or writing playlist, and it's nice, but i don't know...i have some kind of mental blockage with it now. re: ambient, this also happened for me with stars of the lid, though eno, budd, gas, and ambient vangelis are still fine...

soyrev, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

<3 this:

https://twitter.com/WilliamBasinski/status/628610802526752769

feargal czukay (NickB), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

^ looking very debonair as usual btw, like some sort of parisian gangster mountie

feargal czukay (NickB), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm going to try and use disintegration loops to get my toddler to go to sleep at night. Max Richter and Eluvium have failed. I'm counting on you William.

Jeff, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link

Should work like a charm. Some weeks last year during a distressing period my girlfriend used 92982 with great success.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...
three months pass...

First great news of 2017: new album! http://p4k.in/1GqqFRZ

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Looking forward to listening to this Friday.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 19 January 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link

Actually, check that. At work, at least during the inauguration, I'll have my Disintegration Loops playing in the background.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 19 January 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link

If U.S.A is still a thing when I get up on Saturday, I'll check the new one out...

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 19 January 2017 01:47 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Next month in Pasadena William Basinski is being honored at a benefit for Fulcrum Arts, and he and Lawrence English will perform their new Selva Oscura live for the first time.

Fulcrum (with which I’m involved) supports a lot of amazing artists including sound artists and experimental music. They’ll be presenting a new piece by Lawrence English later this year, for instance, also in LA.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fulcrum-arts-annual-benefit-honoring-william-basinski-and-ligo-caltech-tickets-51407507238

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

tonight in manchester was wonderful - and efficient! took to stage at 9pm sharp with nothing more than a laptop. 40 meditative minutes - no encore. and so down to earth for a chat afterwards!

meaulnes, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

The first version of the 'bored nightclub girl' meme I saw was a disintegration loops based one. That probably says more about me than anything else.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 25 October 2018 08:24 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

An entertaining short interview here.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/apr/10/music-william-basinski-interview-9-11-the-disintegration-loops

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:45 (five years ago) link

Ha, thanks for that. The new record is vintage stuff btw.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link

I somehow didn't know or had forgotten about his 9/11 beliefs.

In terms of his music, I'm quite out of the loop.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

And now for something completely different

https://williambasinski.bandcamp.com/album/hymns-of-oblivion

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link

… so he's been waiting for an apocalypse?

kraudive, Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link

I rather like this! It's not nearly as apocalyptic once you're halfway through, bordering on hopeful towards the end.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 22 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

kind of shocking to hear his voice! just getting started

Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 March 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

I know right?! There's a hint of Michael Hutchence in there, which fits with it being recorded 30 years ago. Would like to hear what you make of it once you've listened all the way through.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 22 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

tbh i don't see myself returning to it too often, but there are some really compelling tracks! probably unsurprisingly, i think i favor the songs with slower, sparser arrangements. in some ways it reminds me of dead can dance's Spleen and Ideal (referencing that particular one because it's the DCD album i'm most familiar with since it's the only LP of theirs i own so far)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 March 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

"because", "the great warriors", and "the chemistry of life" were the ones that stood out to me on first listen

Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 March 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

ok what the hell is going on

2020 is a very confusing year

https://sparkledivision.bandcamp.com/album/to-feel-embraced

L. Prague de Scamp (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

Adds a bit of extra meaning to this twitter comment the other day in reply to The Quietus and Heather Leigh...

We are Sparkle Division! comin' through....thank you very much!) xoxox, you go girl! i love you!!!

— william basinski (@WilliamBasinski) July 24, 2020

brain (krakow), Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

Also, a few tracks in and this sounds great.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 25 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

Ha, yeah, this is pretty mental considering the Basinski seal over it. I do like it! It half reminds me of Matthew Herbert's 'Goodbye Swingtime', which was 'cleaner' in its approach but came from an equally unusual suspect. This gets more choppy, glitchy and OPN-y as it continues.

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

I don’t know WB’s stuff but I’ll just leave this album by UK ambient drone master Sangam here: http://newmotion.ca/album/escapism-path

calstars, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this Sparkle Division alb is really nice and features the late great Henry Grimes on the poignant Oh Henry. can't ask for more than that really.

calzino, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

I'm banned from using violent speak so I won't describe it as "kaleidoscopic"!

calzino, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

the sparkle division record is good. the other day i was watching lethal weapon 2 and thought "why don't people make more music that sounds like the soundtrack to lethal weapon 2" and lo

adam, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

thought this was going to be about the slight lamentations delay (LP pressing related, of course)

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

idk how people listen to this stuff on LP, every time you really make progress toward achieving oneness with cosmic godhead you gotta get up and flip the fuckin record

adam, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

I never realized he was so queer and fabulous

https://mif.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/FEATURE-e1497260395653-650x397.jpg

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

he's in the new Wire and the first picture looks like one for the old men that look like lesbians thread. (and the others looks like iggy pop). not sure i'd seen a pic of him before.

koogs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

that's the pic I was looking for! the poolside shot

another music group I'm in was laughing about this:

I was comfortable picturing Basinski as a man who made no effort to look cool and the new wire cover has him out here tryna be Bowie. Can't listen to his ambient sounds with same trust now. He is not committed to serenity and anonymity he is trying to be a rock star.

— Harmony Holiday (@Harmony_Holiday) October 19, 2020

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

also, he played saxophone on the 1980 LP by LA punk supergroup Black Randy & The Metrosquad!

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

Basinski has the best publicity photos

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

also, he played saxophone on the 1980 LP by LA punk supergroup Black Randy & The Metrosquad!

!!!

adam, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

and the name of that album is...

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0348063897_16.jpg

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I never realized he was so queer and fabulous

A few years ago at The Lab in SF, he presented an all night sleepover where he would perform Out of Time Out of Mind (a few months prior to release) and then play back all of the Disintegration Loops for about 6 hours (event went from like 10pm to like 5am). Everyone brought comfy pillows and mattress pads and stuff, it was great.

But... I never had seen the dude before and when he walked out he was wearing a skin tight disco outfit made of either sequins or that disco fabric you see a lot and dark sunglasses. He was FABULOUS and definitely a ROCK STAR. He also spoke with a gay southern drawl too. Had no idea he was a Texan, gay and utterly and completely fabulous. I was basically like "holy shit I know nothing about you dude, but the music you make evokes a very different mood and personality than your physical self expression and I am definitely here for it".

octobeard, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link


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