― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link
The end result: I personally know four people (and considering that the amount of people on campus who I have even the barest of conversations with comes to about 12 people that's a pretty big percentage) who now work for the comedy paper, and a lot of people who actively search out the paper when it is published (including myself) cos NONE OF US WERE AWARE THE FUCKING THING EXISTED BEFORE PEOPLE THREW A BIG BITCH FIT TO GET THE THING PULLED.
Similarly, I haven't read a Ted Rall cartoon in years prior to just now.
Moral of the story: if you don't like something, just fucking ignore it or create a likewise response, don't throw a "pull this trash, alert the media" bitch fit.
Other moral not having to do with what I said: HI TED RALL AND MICHAEL MOORE ET ALL YOU AREN'T FUNNY AND ENTERING ANY FORM OF DEBATE BY BLUDGEONING PEOPLE OVER THE FUCKING HEAD ISN'T GOING TO WIN YOU ANY FANS BESIDES PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIE ON YOUR SIDE OF THE POLITICAL LINES AND IF THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU WANT TO REACH, WHY BOTHER IN THE FIRST PLACE, DUMBASS? (I feel that needs to be in large letters cos apparently the idea of making jokes funny and trying to use political debate to win people over is beyond everyone lately)
― Allyzay, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Allyzay, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link
Oh, if only Momus were Italian and Gingrich were his roommate, what a strip this would be.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link
I dunno, no better or worse than whoever it was that did Fido Dido. (If he assumes he's any BETTER than Fido Dido then I worry.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link
yeah I'd question whether doing an 'ethnic' comic is in-and-of-itself an indication of balls
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link
blount: next level
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link
Broheems,
Point taken, and with due humility. Please accept my apologies.
1. I too find this comic offensive.2. What does it matter who I am? Really? Snob!
g--ff
Don't talk down to to me about censorship
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=censorship
Prior restraint is not the only danger of censorship. Another equal danger is the tendancy to restrict new and unpopular thoughts already expressed- which may be true and therfore useful. Free speech doesn't derive its value from only hearing what you want to hear. Also, don't talk down to me. 3. Don't censor my right to say 'classist' ideas. Whingeing about a person's status legally, economically, racially, etc... doesn't absolve someone serious from making an argument germane to the issue at hand, whatever the person's complaint may be. The U.S. is a democratic republic, not a democracy. Thank God or whatever - I'm an atheist. We have (and I would be willing to kill and die for) such undemocratic institutions as the Bill of Rights and various other laws which prevent 'we, the people' from voting for, in the heat of passion, things which have appealed to 'the People' like legal racism, lynching, Hitler, Napoleon III, treating sexual orientaion as a reason for socially exceptable ridicule... Need I continue?
FYI, Rall mostly makes me cringe. I'm a very moderate person generally and often find he's a terrible cartoonist, has a crap sense of humor, and values his ego over actual thinking.
Yo Michael White, fuck off and die.
This is, I believe, beneath you. Don't fall back on snobby nativist (i.e. I was here first!) bullshit when simple decent rhetoric will do. Also, I regret that, due to other engagements, dear sir, I am unable to oblige you.
(I love it when some joker gets all sanctimonious and busts out the ironic "clever" and so forth, and does the dumbass "your"/"you're" thing [or one of its variants] in a post. always classic, that.)
I apologize to everyone here that in the heat of the moment I made that most elementary of mistakes and substituted 'your' for 'you're'. To quote Broheems, Sometimes I write long, considered posts, and sometimes I write my first reactions, I regret that, due to other engagements, dear sir, I shall be unable to oblige you.
Being naturally indolent I shall simply repeat, "Smug and self-righteous are a truly noxious combination." Now I will go laugh at myself for giving a shit.
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago) link
I had gotten so good about just walking away from the computer when angry, too. Ah well, this cartoon really cheesed me off. Darn it, I let the terrorists win.
― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:02 (twenty years ago) link
Plus I think you should get acquainted with the guy before you go off and fuck him.
― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 06:51 (twenty years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:26 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:09 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― haha, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link
― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:54 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link
Not that I'm going to vote for dubya.
― TOMBOT, Friday, 7 May 2004 03:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:17 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:18 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:19 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:22 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:32 (twenty years ago) link
no, it's a much more evil message than that. it's a complete lie. the message is clearly meant to be read as, "THEY deserve it because THEY flew those planes into our buildings." which of course they didn't actually do. that higgins cartoon is pretty much the entire lie of the iraq war laid bare.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:54 (twenty years ago) link
I'm also bothered by the image of the kids in the Higgins cartoon. It's attempts to assert poignance and innocence, but stop me if I'm wrong -- don't Iraqis have children too?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:04 (twenty years ago) link
it's really not. it's almost like he takes special care to not give a shit about his backgrounds and layout.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 July 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link