Heldon/Richard Pinhas: S&D

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is that like richard pinhas WITH wolf eyes or richard pinhas, wolf eyes opening?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 15 June 2007 08:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know about the dates with Wolf Eyes, but I understand the last bit to mean collaborative recording (NYC + MICHIGAN). Like, wow! The live dates aren't much use to me, sadly, but you kids all enjoy now.

I've been on a major Heldon/RP tip in the past few weeks ever since I got the singles comp, which is a superb primer of his work and really shows the evolution of his sound in great bite-size chunks - an awesome listen (esp. when driving at night!). The version of Telstar is one of the best things I've heard all year for sure. Get it while you can, as it's now sold out at source, but Forced Exposure still have copies.

myopic_void, Friday, 15 June 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

"Half a year until Dadaismus will be buying Yes box sets"

Three years now
-- Dadaismus (Dada), neljapäev, 12. Oktoober 2006

My oh my, doesn't time fly-ah?

Oh, and if that "new Pinhas" that Ned mentioned should be the Metetron two-fer, then some of that 's pretty gripping.

t**t, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Wolf Eyes + Pinhas collab has been in the works since last summer, looks like it's finally moving forward.

petey_carnum, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

the Metetron two-fer

And indeed it is.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

or Metatron, even? :)

t**t, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Recent Richard Pinhas - sound art performance is a stunning listening experience !

on youtube: Richard Pinhas at Highways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dft_tfahw

djmartian, Sunday, 22 July 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

"iceland" sounds a lot like vangelis ca. blade runner. maybe they were using similar equipment? but the compositional style is similar too.

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 04:10 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I am listening to "Chaos Line" -- is the rest of Keio Line as lushly Fenneszy and beautiful?

Leee, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The title track of Interface about did me in on my bus ride this morning. What a kick ass tune.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Interface. Just... wow.

One of those 19 minute tracks you wish was 90 min.

I've only just discovered how much bands like Trans Am sound like these guys. Wow.

girls just wanna have mixtapes (Masonic Boom), Friday, 18 September 2009 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Pinhas solo records are great for winter. L'Ethique and Chronolyse soundtracking gray days in the bay, and also kicking a lot of ass!!!!

Dominique, Sunday, 13 December 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

eh Dominique, last I went to sleep listening to Iceland and this morning I woke up with Chronolyse. Winter is indeed arrived!

Marco Damiani, Sunday, 13 December 2009 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

discovered him last week

this is gonna be my next musical obsession afaict

tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the Patrick Gauthier solo album is really worth checking out if you like Heldon! I like it better than Pinhas's solo stuff .

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

amazed that he has done a disco version of telstar and records with ~gilles deleuze~ and he doesn't have a wikipedia page in his own name

tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

was a student of deleuze, had a really cool conversation with him about music in which deleuze was just an old snobby jerk when pinhas was trying to big up fripp and shit. i wrote about it but like fuck is anyone reading that. go here: http://www.webdeleuze.com/php/texte.php?cle=5&groupe=Anti%20Oedipe%20et%20Mille%20Plateaux&langue=2

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Pinhas put out a 2CD set this year, Metal/Crystal, with Merzbow and Wolf Eyes on it. It's great. I reviewed it for The Wire but I don't think the review's run yet.

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i gotta get that, hope review is in wire e.o.y. issue

joe meek >>> deleuze >>>> merzbow

20th century yall

tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreeing with unperson, in fact I just submitted my AMG review for it -- his collaborators (both tour band and the guests) are excellent throughout but Pinhas's work is of course the core and it's just lovely as well as harrowing in equal measure.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

!!! I did not know about this!
Maybe Santa will know what to bring me now.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's good, we got it in at my radio station.

sleeve, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

L'Ethique (from 1982) is the shit, features several Magma alumni plus Deleuze on a couple of tracks :

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/002/351/0000235121_350.jpg

Satantango! (Matt #2), Sunday, 5 December 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

The first time I ever listened to the John Peel show was when he played Alain Renaud's "Back and In", which I believe has a RPinhas production credit.

Mark G, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link

unperson's review has already run in the wire, i remember reading it

Ward Fowler, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

iceland is a stunner. deep, gorgeous, and really quite different than the arpeggioed frippery on his other albums from that era. (the ones I've heard, anyway.)

also, "iceland (part2)" sounds pretty similar to the terminator theme to my ears. not a bad thing!

original bgm, Monday, 10 January 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Merzdon - Heldow Kills Animal K

<3

nakhchivan, Saturday, 15 January 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Loving this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl5UIeGpyvc

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Pinhas worth seeing live in 2011 Y/N?

Has anyone seen him perform recently? What should I expect if I go?

deez m'uts (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

relevance

eid orb (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

wall of sound guitar noise-soundscapes, usually accompanied by projected visuals. If the sound at the venue is good, can be pretty gorgeous

Dominique, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

nb ive not seen RP but i nonetheless believe him to be relevant on account of his wondrous albums

eid orb (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds pretty great. The venue is kind of weird and I didn't think it booked shows like this, but I guess it does. Will be best if I can get a seat, I imagine.

deez m'uts (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

is he playing solo or with others? I saw him play with members of Wolf Eyes back in September, and it was pretty intense and loud.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSc1AojeTbE

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

I absolutely adore Pinhas/Heldon!! What a group, what a concept! I want more sci-fi cyborg prog, I really do. All the albums up through East/West are worthwhile although it's true I haven't heard anything after that. East/West is half good. Interface, Stand By and Rhizosphere Live Paris are my favorites. Killer drumming. I actually have been practicing drums to sequencers since getting into this band and it's a heck of a lot of fun but so easy to fuck up and train wreck. Infinite respect. I always wonder how the hell this group managed to be professionals/full time. Only in France, only in the 70s I guess. Maybe the novelty of giant moog modulars and the (very) distant relationship to groups like Tangerine Dream gave them a boost?!

liam fennell, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

(Dadaismus -- how's yer Yes box-sets buyin' goin'?
:)

t**t, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

Can't see it happening, but it'd be great to see Pinhas going out under the Heldon name again.

I want more sci-fi cyborg prog, I really do.

Try Cybotron! (the Aussie band from the 70s that is, not Juan Atkins)

|III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

Cool, thanks Matt#2!

Incidentally, some of the instrumental Juan Atkins Cybotron is the only techno I've ever really been able to get behind - I want more of that, very badly! I want a whole album that sounds like the instrumental Techno City. Does such a thing exist by any chance? I am completely 100% uninformed about the genre. All I know is I don't like it once samplers come in and they start using those big loud drum beats for dance music. I like it when it's all analog synths, with subdued electronic drums, and preferably with a dark kraftwerk vibe. And no vocals.

Maybe I should bump a techno thread? This kind of feels like a more appropriate place to ask though...

liam fennell, Saturday, 29 October 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

I want more sci-fi cyborg prog, I really do.

Bernard Szajner, dude.

bear has little fear of hades (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 30 October 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

Perfect, thanks, much appreciated.

liam fennell, Sunday, 30 October 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Revisiting Metal/Crystal today instead of working.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 9 February 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Heldon fans please vote in 70s poll and get them rightly further up!
I introduced sund4r to them so poll has had 1 success already!

Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

Funny, I was just thinking about them as I saw Agneta Nilsson and Stand By at Reckless last weekend. Coincidentally those are the two I don't have -- I don't even have MP3s of Stand By even though I swore I had something years ago (after I last posted here in 2005 maybe). They are the Cuneiform editions from '93. Not sure of the newer Captain Trip ones offered remasters?

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

Are the cds oop?

Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe not, I see they are available at ImportCDs. Their release date is 2004 on Cuneiform.

http://www.importcds.com/music/168328/heldon-interface
http://www.importcds.com/music/548051/heldon-stand-by

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

he's doing a brief US tour

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

that was a pretty key track for me when I used to make weird dj mixes that shifted genres every 15 seconds

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 25 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link


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