Is anyone anticipating the new Diddy album?

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"I order all my sandwiches with mayonnaise"

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

two more songs produced by timbaland. http://www.discobelle.net/2006/10/12/timbo-and-diddy/

and as deej says, "Diddy Rock" is great. the other one is cool, but sounds like timbaland by numbers

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Just started listening to clips of this on itunes, and...holy shit the intro track. What weirds me out isn't just the obviousness of the sample, but also that it doesn't even sound like one- seriously, it sounds like he got someone to just play the keyboard line from "Head Over Heels."

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I make a mistake walking out of the store without this yesterday?

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

when it's a replayed element from another song, it's an interpolation, not a sample.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

OK I like this album a lot but its not at all what I was expecting.
its like he's going for some adult contemporap (and i mean that in a good way), sade or something? I've never heard that Playgroup album before so I'll have to check it out.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Two levels above you, baby

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Um.. i'ma make you love me baby?

― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally listened to the whole thing last night. The second half is the best, the part with all the R&B vocalists, and its got some sort of 80s nu-wave influence that i can't quite place (I'm assuming Andy has a better idea)
The song with Brandy stands out, drum&bass meets a DeBeers commercial aesthetic (mature w/ expensive classy formal attire & 'respectable' dramatic strings) and esp. on the later tracks Diddy's forced pop-rap sounds even more like a throwback and less ... boring. The weakest tracks are at the beginning, the Pharoahe-ghostwritten one (which is just 'ok') and the one after it, "Hold Up," which is just terrible. Diddy isn't a good rapper, but he's an enjoyable enough one as long as he keeps it interesting (meaning the lyrics & or beat need to keep everything going so his pop-rap style works). The timbaland track is incredible (there's only one that's all Timbo, and its with some new R&B chick named Keri who is v. good, although his 'associate' Danja produced two of the best tracks), and the R&B conclusion is really the albums heart, this cold sheen with those weird 80s reverb-y noise gated drums (on "Through the Pain") and of course that Mary J. track with Rich Harrison is one of Harrison's best soul tracks yet - those thumping, organic drums and this "out" horn sample. (Other than that track) this is v. much adult-contempo soul, if Diddy decided to go Sade (which isn't quite what I was expecting but is great nonetheless) and no this album isn't perfect by any means - Like I said, Diddy's rapping can be very boring (although I think he genuinely rips the Nas track and the intro). But like RTC said the appeal of a Diddy album is about how he throws money around, the expensive ghostwriters (its fun to play "who wrote this" - the obvious one is Pharoahe but I'm almost positive track 3 is Jay-Z or a biter, and the Brandy track actually kind of sounds like Eminem, rhyme scheme is familiar that way + 'personal' introspective relationship lyrics), recruiting the biggest singers in R&B, getting Timbaland, Twista and Shawnna on the same track (and then having the balls to call it "Diddy Rock" despite him being the least talented dude on it!) and that Ciara and Big Boi track is straight 80s goth nu-wave over bass 808s (haha now I sound very ILM. Maybe later I'll tell you how it fits in with the Avalanches and shoegaze.)

Anyway all in all its a good, enjoyable album (although its no "No Way Out") w/ a largely unified sound and I recommend it.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

hum. thanx for the review I was hesitating to grab it today. will get it tomorrow I guess...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The Havoc beats are the secret reason why those two bad tracks were doomed. keybs are not friendly to his approach.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Deej's description make it sound like a hip-hop version of the Cassie album. I'm excited

― Baaderonixx in the year of the locusts (baaderonixx), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Shawnna sounds brillaint on Diddy Rock

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I like "Wanna Move," "Special Feeling," "Through The Pain," "Thought You Said" and "Last Night," esp. if they make single edits. I don't know why they put a Brandy 2-step track on this thing, but hey, not complaining.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 20 October 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

this has got Felix's scent all over it

― like_a_child (daddy warbuxx), Friday, 20 October 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

YOUNG TIM FINNEY HAVE YOU HEARD THE ALBUM DIDDY - PRESS PLAY?

I am all over Keri Hilson right now. She had a hand in Mary J Blige's Take Me as I Am and less relevant songs for Usher, Chris Brown, Avant, Danity Kane, and B5. She has a song of her own on the soundtrack to that awful Usher movie. She's on Lloyd Banks' Help and Xzibit's Hey Now (Mean Muggin')*.

*'Entourage rap'

KERI HILSON ON MYSPACE
KERI HILSON ON FRIENDSTER
KERI HILSON ON MOSLEY MUSIC
KERI HILSON ON METACRITIC
KERI HILSON ON AOL
KERI HILSON AT COKEMACHINEGLOW
KERI HILSON AT MUSIC-FOR-ROBOTS

If I had DJ MARTIAN'S energy I would do actual links for (some) of the above.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 20 October 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's nowhere near as good as the last one:

http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/a7/58/f4_2.JPG

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that Ciara and Big Boi track is straight 80s goth nu-wave over bass 808s (haha now I sound very ILM. Maybe later I'll tell you how it fits in with the Avalanches and shoegaze.)

Give in, Deej. Besides, everything is goth in the end.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just thinking I'd changed my mind about the Keri track! It sounds kind of out of place and while its one of my favorite Timbaland phenotypes* (a bunch of melodic elements overlapping w/ a uniquely wistful Timbaland mood) it doesnt quite fit in with all the tracks around it. Its good don't get me wrong - just feels out of place. I think my favorite track now is the Keyshia Cole one, which they've played on the radio around here.

I also agree w/ Andy that I want to know what Tim thinks!

*c. Tim Finney 2004

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It's out of place after the lame Prince stunt and even lamer interlude, but I do think it's placed perfectly before the Mario sobfest.

The Keyshia track's my favorite too.

Mid '80s R&B nerds: Juicy's Katreese Barnes does some of the arrangements.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I like the lame prince stunt : /

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Keyshia divides people, I notice.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

She went straight through my torso.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Keyshia Cole is fucking horrible no matter what the context.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I second that.

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you heard this song, Dan?

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Herr Drake: the crypto-intellectual anti-intellectual contrarianism of ILM reaches its apotheosis with the mere suggestion that "adult contemporary in a good way" is not an oxymoron!

― Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

oh come the fuck on when its french white dudes yall love it

― and what (ooo), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

haha i was about to post a picture of pheonix.

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"We Gonna Make it" is like the exact same sample as Jay's new one.

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you heard this song, Dan?

No, largely because I don't really like Diddy as a performer and I really, really hate Keyshia Cole; there is nothing there that would make me try to listen to this song (at least the Brandy song has Brandy on it).

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

now, back to "Candy Shop"

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

keyshia cole is fine as hell

― and what (ooo), Friday, 20 October 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

My coworker told me she thinks Keyshia's gay.

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 October 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Might be wishful thinking.

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 October 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

diddle my skittle
http://www.omroep.nl/nps/dekortefilm/gfx/peaches_150.jpg

― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 20 October 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"Last Night" = surprised how great it is

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 23 October 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I'm completely addicted to "Last Night", something about the beat really makes it stand out

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

no get offf sadly but the production on this is so amazing. i really like this album.

― tigertiger (tigertiger), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i cant praise the music on this enough, actually. really quite tremendous.

― tigertiger (tigertiger), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link

obviousness of tip ghostwriting wanna move is killing me - even bow wow disguised that shit better!!

― and what (ooo), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Clifford Harris is credited, though.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

well yeah but the point of hiring a ghostwriter isns to sound like supernatural impersonating das efx on funk flex its to step your lyrics up but still keep your own style & persona - see hardcore, chronic 2001, or that shaq album

― and what (ooo), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

isnt

― and what (ooo), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I think that gets at the problem w/ the pharoahe song too.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Not disagreeing one bit with the obviousness. It damn near made me fall out my chair.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

what if yr persona is "i got this vision for an album that no one else will make so i'll buy everything cos i don't care and oh look neither it seems do you"

seriously, this album is nothing if not honest.

― rtccc (mwah), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean if it was all about him stunting for the sake of it (like ooh, i dunno jay-z) then he could easily have got ti to write him some bars and do karaoke over 'shoulder lean' or whatever. isn't the absurdity of diddy's ghostwriting not that it's so blatant but that he picked pharoahe monche of all people to rep himself on an album thru?

― rtccc (mwah), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone just told me this only sold 170k?

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea where to check numbers.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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