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kinda feel this: http://gawker.com/heres-the-terry-richardson-profile-you-didnt-read-in-ne-1592188149

I already (thought that I) thought the worst of this guy, but the nymag article made me think worse.
nobody's acting like this is a cool rehabilitating article right?

chinavision!, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

Not really "rehabilitating" but certainly overly balanced.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:26 (nine years ago) link

what is 'overly balanced'

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:27 (nine years ago) link

nb the article i linked is reading more into the nymag article than i think is reasonable ... but then i came away from reading the ny mag article thinking terry was a bigger scumbag than i thought so idk why it's being seen as esp. forgiving

the headline on the nymag article, though, def sets a really stupid tone

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link

xp when they show 'both sides of the story' and act like they have equal weight

just sayin, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:31 (nine years ago) link

isn't that a projection

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:36 (nine years ago) link

like, i see these two paragraphs next to each other:

But he seems either unaware of or unwilling to acknowledge the ways in which coercion can be unspoken and situational. A prominent photography agent identifies the potential for abuse. “Kate Moss wasn’t asked to grab a hard dick,” this person says. “Miley Cyrus wasn’t asked to grab a hard dick. H&M models weren’t asked to grab a hard dick. But these other girls, the 19-year-old girl from Whereverville, should be the one to say, ‘I don’t think this is a good idea’? These girls are told by agents how important he is, and then they show up and it’s a bait and switch. This guy and his friends are literally like, ‘Grab my boner.’ Is this girl going to say no? And go back to the village? That’s not a real choice. It’s a false choice.”

Someone who’s spoken with Richardson about the Kibosh project recalls him describing his feelings with some nuance. “He said, ‘I was really up front about the kind of work I was making, and it came from pain; it was an expression of the pain and trauma I’ve experienced in my life, and I’m not proud of it.’ ” In our conversations, Richardson was less introspective and more defensive. “I don’t have any regrets about the work at all,” he tells me, “but obviously I don’t ever want someone to feel like that. It was never my intention. But also, people do things, and then they have regrets, and that’s also nothing to do with me. Then don’t do pictures like that again … I’m okay with myself about everything, and that to me is the most important thing.”

It's the structure of 'both sides' but not the content. i mean, apparently a lot of people aren't reading it the way i did, so some of that has to fall on the writer—when I read the "Canyons" (lindsey lohan, james deen, etc.) piece in the new york times, it was a lot more dryly humorous. So maybe this piece is sloppier? But nonetheless, I read that last paragraph as pretty damning.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:40 (nine years ago) link

The article does raise some of the concerns but, in my view, makes the ideas that he has 'pushed his art into grey areas that some people are uncomfortable with' and 'he is a rapist and sexual predator' seem like equally defensible positions. Maybe it is projection, i don't know.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 07:49 (nine years ago) link

for an overly balanced article it seems to have made people universally grossed out by terry richardson, so... maybe it's not overly balanced?
like you might as well show 'both sides of the story' if one is clearly super damning and then your point is made. maybe I'm misreading though.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link

he is a butt hole

Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

idk, idk. Plenty of comments below the article itself that would seem to contradict that but perhaps that's to be expected.

xp

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link

tbf there were rumors ahead of time that NYmag was working on something 100% in his defense and what they actually ran was pretty warts and all beyond the quotes TR gave, and in a way it's more damning for that stuff to appear in a piece that he cooperated with and was interviewed for.

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link

Hah I didn't know his dad was also a famous fashion photog

, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

That Dame mag piece is just weird. The prima facie idiocy of the "other side of the story" is all the more damning. It would be a less effective takedown without the stuff from the Richardson camp.

ugh (lukas), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the details about his dad are the only new parts of this for me (and that he took up with 17-year-old Anjelica Houston when TR was a kid).

did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

On the one hand, Gavin Mcinnes liked the piece. On the other hand, Ross douthat was opposed.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link

for an overly balanced article it seems to have made people universally grossed out by terry richardson, so... maybe it's not overly balanced?
like you might as well show 'both sides of the story' if one is clearly super damning and then your point is made. maybe I'm misreading though.

― chinavision!, Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:42 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this was my line of thinking. I don't need the writer to hold my hand on whose quotes are dumb and whose aren't when it seems self evident to me

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Just wait until you see the subsequent photos in that series.

Kool-Ranch! flavor Kool-Aid® drink mix (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 July 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

One leg in the air, posing with a jar of peanut butter. (spoiler)

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Thursday, 31 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link


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