Underworld Dubnobasswithmyheadman - Classic or Dud?

man, i don't think so. if it hadn't been for EBM comps i would never have discovered those first 2 albums

It was the Sire "Just Say ______" comps, right? That's where I first heard "Crash" IIRC

Y kant tori read?
Japan?

there were TWO original incarnations - don't forget about Freur!

No one forgot about Freur

oh wait maybe it was "Just Say Mao" w/thrash on it

a double disc Freur set would be awesome. Get Us Out Of Here desperately needs remastering and I believe there are a lot of interesting oddities from that period. In particular I always saw "Alabaster White Thing" as the bridge from their 80's period to Underworld mk2. Some of those mk1 songs are gold though ("Change the Weather", "Stand Up", "I Need a Doctor", and of course "Underneath the Radar", excellent songs all of 'em)

oh wait lol it was "Thrash", "Crash" was The Primitives

(def on Just Say Mao tho)

man, i don't think so. if it hadn't been for EBM comps i would never have discovered those first 2 albums

If it hadnt been for them having a #1 single I never would have discovered that first album

That line from the press release is very carefully accurate!

i have never really thought of this as an album on cd that needs remastering.

has that fat warm 90s techno sound that i love before the loudness wars kicked in.

i reckon the cd sounds perfectly fine, hope they dont push the sonics too hard.

This is one of the only albums I actively hoped would get remastered. It's so quiet compared to other albums.

i can see them boosting the levels a bit, both that and STITI are weirdly quiet, even by 90's CD standards. though in my opinion no UW release really needs remastering, they all sound great and I'd be curious if they touched the post-Second Toughest albums at all.

I suppose it was their debut with Emerson, but yeah, this band seems very intent on burying mk1. Alanis has done a pretty good job burying her first couple albums.

Pantera

I suppose it was their debut with Emerson, but yeah, this band seems very intent on burying mk1. Alanis has done a pretty good job burying her first couple albums.

is there any reason to assume they even have any control over their Warners catalogue?

damn it underworld, what if I want the remastered album on vinyl and then a download of all the extra material?!? I guess I want the five cd version or something now, idk

I had that same dilemma but since I already own Dubno on vinyl, I decided to get the 5CD thing. Not sure if the vinyl comes with the 50 page book either. May wait and see if the vinyl turns up locally and buy that later.

Well I meant more in the sense of the band pretending it didn't happen, not asking their former label to destroy copies or whatever

just compared the remastered Cowgirl single edit to the one I had on CD twice (cd single and anthology) and the album version (also on CD) : it's louder than the album version but not as loud as the single edit on the cd single and anthology which were both TOO loud for comfort.

I trust Rick Smith to not fuck up the remastering.

Ordered the 5CD one. Easily my favourite UW album and probably in my all time top 5. Agree that the original CD and vinyl were really quiet.

holy crap @ this rendition : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jst8yoqPTmo

Ha, was there!

Yes this is gonna be great and of course I'll buy it and it's gonna be totally awesome. THAT BEING SAID... not including "Why Why Why" in your 5CD monster reissue deluxe edition is indefensible.

It has been noted that Why, Why, Why and a couple other Dubno era omissions were actually remastered and included on the deluxe version of Anthology from a few years back. It sort of makes sense if you bought that collection to not repeat tracks but I wish it has been included.

even these offcuts sound bloody good ..

https://soundcloud.com/underworld/saved-from-the-cutting-room-floor-mix-underworld-vs-the-misterons-1

Listened to that mix twice yesterday and was stunned at the quality of material left behind. This mix has jumped pretty high on my list of favorite UW mixes.

agreed.
loved listening to that.
a genuine headphone friendly megamix.
oh for a proper high quality offline version.

that misterons mix is a pretty sweet suite -- any opinions on the merits of the bonus material on the box -- looks like the 5-disk set has hit spotify and many have been posted to youtube.

really like the LP-size format for CD box-sets, but the 60 page booklet looks to be filled with fluff. At least they got the price-point right at 50 quid.

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/interviews/a601913/underworlds-karl-hyde-interview-were-already-making-a-new-album.html#~oS2rGOckFNUT7H

some good news here!!

Only listened to CD5 so far, the live studio disk, but it's rather lovely

Box set arrived today. Pretty happy with it overall. Incredible packaging. What I'm most impressed with is how they distilled all the ideas they had knocking about into a coherent, well paced album. Rick Smith is the best thing to happen to Karl Hyde. The guy is the heartbeat of Underworld.

ugh i can't wait to listen to only this

Rick Smith is the best thing to happen to Karl Hyde. The guy is the heartbeat of Underworld.

Hyde says pretty much exactly that.

...as I'm auditioning this box...

the unreleased material on disk 4 is where it's at; everything else is sorta "samey". Won't be buying this one.

Odd. Twenty years ago I'd have likely blindly purchased and coveted this boxset; today, I scan though the material with little emotion and pick what I like. The original album is still a classic in my eyes, but the bonus material, while voluminous, doesn't add much.

This boxset would've been a godsend as a 10th anniversary thing, as so many of these tracks were impossible to find, even online. I do think it's odd that it has "Eclipse" but not "Minneapolis" (IMO the better of the two Lemon Interupt singles). Also it doesn't include "Why Why Why" which was a bonus track on the Japanese version and it's a great one. It fits in so well with everything else.

I think the neat thing about this box is getting to hear how the music evolves - how "Bigmouth" (on CD 5) was a precursor to "Dark and Long" in some way, how "Skyscraper" and "Cowgirl" came to be, and so on...Underworld are huge on this kind of thing (how many versions of "Always Loved a Film" are there?), unlike say Orbital or the Chemical Bros. (who would never be able to fill a 5 disc set like this) there's so much experimenting and improvising with Underworld and as a result they have this massive backlog of unreleased tunes.

Disc 4 seems to be the one to get. It's a little less exciting since that DAT came out a couple years back that even the band forgot about (!!) that had "Organ" and "Big Meat Show"...what a totally bizarre find that was. So strange for one of those "I found an early version of (classic album) hidden in a basement somewhere" type stories to be true.

Not sure I can justify the 5cd box but does the 2cd version add anything worthwhile?

(Underworld have been sounding magnificent over the last few days).

the 5CD box is beautiful on its own but I think I liked the Misterons DJ mix of the demos and versions that came out just prior to the reissue more than listening to the bonus material actually in the box.

the 2CD version has some great stuff on it that you prob. don't have on cd already, like Eclipse and the 3 demos at the end.

5cd version is on spotify iirc

some great moments on the 5cd

also i know i'd heard Thing In A Book before and liked it, but now i really _appreciate_ it

Finally tracked down the Dark & Long 2 12" with Thing In A Book Mix on Side 2. It is a thing of beauty. http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Dark-Long-2/release/23459

been listening pretty much exclusively to this boxset this week, mostly discs 4 and 5 plus the Cutting Room Floor mix. put all together there are like four totally different 'alternate' versions of this album you could put together.

Cutting Room Floor Mix gets listened to way more than any of the bonus discs here.

25 years old today!

Thunder, thunder, lightning

I want to smash it up, I want to break it down
I want a wall of tears to wash away

Yes, I am saying a compilation of singles is by definition better than a debut album. Well, i'm at least saying it is not surprising that someone would prefer a series of songs that were considered better (thus selected for release and all that entails) than the other songs created during the same era.

I still haven't unsealed my German Box Set release for 92-02. Not sure why, as I think it has the longer version of Dirty and maybe one other track is extended. Anyway, sure, you can have the opinion that the singles compilation is better than the album. I've played Dubno so many times that it's no longer just a collection of tracks, is a holder of two decades worth of memories that get stirred up at various points while the album is playing. I happen to think Oblivion with Bells is their best album, at least it's the one I have listened to the most since it was released. Don't think I have ever actually played the 92-02 compilation straight through. Pretty sure I just downloaded the tracks from the compilation that were slight variants with longer durations and put those in a playlist.

not surprising that someone would prefer a series of songs that were considered better (thus selected for release and all that entails) than the other songs created during the same era.

The other songs on the album weren't selected for release?

It's not like that disc is an all-time Greatest Hits; everything on it was released either before the album or on it (and not elsewhere) IIRC.

Of course you get more concentrated bangers, but drawn from the same pwriod and pool of songs. Fair enough if you prefer a rock album model with few boring "deep cuts" thrown in for pacing.

True, if I had to save just one song from Dubno today, i'd pick River of Bass.

I happen to think Oblivion with Bells is their best album

i am very gradually arriving at this opinion too lol

There's a nice feature on the making of Dubno over on The Quietus from back when it turned 20.

Rick touches on how songs like Surfboy and Tongue were written to help the sequencing of the album