In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

This thread is gold.

True story - I have a friend who was Billy Squier's bass player at the height of his career (1982). He was touring with Foreigner and when they did "The Stroke", they'd get some of the guys from Foreigner and crew guys and any friends of the band to come onstage and sing the "stroke me, stroke me" part and do this very exaggerated jerking off hand motion. I got recruited in Pittsburgh, Philly, and Cleveland. They were my shining moments.

awesome!

"Everybody Wants You" is playing right now in the supermarket I'm in.

Ugh.

Everybody Wants Yoohoo

I've never had any use at all for "The Stroke" - god is that grating. "Lonely Is The Night" at least has a kind of atmosphere and space to it, kind of a bite-size "Nobody's Fault But Mine." As for Everybody Wants You: Unfortunately, though I hate to derail a Twofer Tuesday, on reaching the chorus, I can say that I have indeed heard this, though not often. It's only the delivery of the title line that makes it familiar at all - the rest is your basic high-gloss sleaze rock thing.

Never realized how early Squier's hits are; I kinda took them for mid-80s arena rock when they're actually (along with Bon Scott, whose vocals I think Squier's kind of aping here) templates for that stuff. On another tip, I never noticed before but I think Paul McCartney nicked the "you're giving the game away" bit of "The World Tonight" from this. And speaking of the Beatles, Wiki got me excited by proclaiming that Squier has performed this song with Ringo Starr and His All-Starr Band; unfortunately, this does not mean Ringo genially chuckling out "Everybody wants you," but Squier singing with Ringo on drums. On the plus side, being a dad-rock live-for-DVD type recording, it at least has a more laid-back, less gross sound.

haha just saw tarfumes post about Nobody's Fault But Mine, and lol at Sandy's post.

Still having fun with this thread though - my only worries were that it'd pre-empt some of the discussion on some dude's results thread (though hopefully, "Everybody Wants You" won't place), and that it'd be some self-indulgent wanky thing, but if y'all are into it, I'm having fun and getting a rock education...

this thread is the most fun I've had all day!

I've heard most of this stuff with the exception of the Bad Company tunes. Never got the appeal of those guys or was aware of any hits of theirs beyond All Right Now and their silly self-titled song. They always felt like the epitome of boring jean jacket rock.

Feel Like Makin' Love is all time!

Listening again to parts of "Everybody Wants You," another one: did "Sharp Dressed Man" pick up on the "you see 'em comin' at you ev-er-y night"? Or is "Everybody Wants You" just such a dense sediment of cliches that everything kinda sounds like it?

I can imagine an almost-good version of this song, if it were either done as straight new wave (throwing a little ice water on the grody sex fiend lead) or even a tightened-up unfunky-funk Talking Heads kinda thing, speaking of "Life During Wartime." Hell, closer to Squier's wheelhouse, I bet Robert Palmer (another "rock" type singer who knows his way around new wave stuff, see Clues) coulda oiled this down in the right place and really had something.

I think I just really hate Squier's voice and guitar tone. Not good enough describing things to explain what's wrong with the drum sound, or maybe other (digital?) things that are overlaid on the drums, but that sucks too.

any hits of theirs beyond All Right Now

That was Free, pre-Bad Co. My memory ain't the best either; I thought "Feel Like Makin Love" was on the debut.

I'm a huge fan of "Feel Like Makin' Love's" boneheaded lyrics

"Feel Like Makin' Love" and "Don't Bring Me Down" are I think the only things from some dude's list I've ever tried to cover or even learn to play.

'feel like makin' love' to me is the epitome of "drunk lonely guy dancing in front of the jukebox" songs

;_;

present company excluded, lonely or otherwise :)

its "another think comin"

Frank Black said that the Pixies got their whole quiet-loud-quiet thing from "Feel Like Makin' Love."

(no he didn't, but I wish he had)

Revisiting a lot of classic rock for the poll, I've realized that a lot of the less-beloved bands have far worse rhythm sections in reality than they do in my memories. Bad Company's tracks definitely were more plodding and less punchy than I remember.

Want to emphasize that I'm talking mostly about the bands that aren't as critically canonized--your Bostons and your Bad Companies, not your Zeps and AC/DCs

Shooting Star is still great, i'm not huge into much else of Bad Company though tbh

and re Billy Squier, his riffs are so meaty but the couple of singles that I know are just bleeeehhhhhhh as far as the rest of the song goes

like Stroke, first time you hear it it's like THIS RIFF IS AWESOME YEAH ROCK OUT--wait...stroke...what...ugggh gross no

Revisiting a lot of classic rock for the poll, I've realized that a lot of the less-beloved bands have far worse rhythm sections in reality than they do in my memories. Bad Company's tracks definitely were more plodding and less punchy than I remember.

― intheblanks, Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Totally, and it's probably the saddest thing about the genre. Even more glaringly awful viz. what was going on elsewhere in the rock universe in the 70s. Funk probably changed lives for those white bar band drummers who were willing to listen, but by a certain point, That Way Lies Disco, And You Know What That Means.

Veg sums up my Squier perfectly, yeah, at some point, I think for about half of one listen, I thought "The Stroke" was cool. Eminem bringing it back recently only upped the groaning awful gross factor. At least he didn't take a song I like and turn it into straight-ahead jock rock.

er, my feelings on Squier

oh no he's all yours, you can have him Doc

:)

Every time I think about Squire now, I think about how that Rock Me Tonight video basically killed his career.

Squire: "When I saw the video, my jaw dropped. It was diabolical. I looked at it and went, “What the fuck is this?”

The video misrepresents who I am as an artist. I was a good-looking, sexy guy. That certainly didn’t hurt in promoting my music. But in this video I’m kind of a pretty boy. And I’m preening around a room. People said “He’s gay.” Or, “He’s on drugs.” It was traumatizing to me. I mean, I had nothing against gays. I have a lot of gay friends.”

Everything I worked for was crumbling and I couldn’t stop it. How can a four-minute video do that? Ok, it sucked. So?”

The wounds have healed and the scars aren’t that deep, because my life has evolved in a good way. I left the music business when I was forty-three. I don’t have to work. Look who’s smiling now! That video is a bad part of a good life.”

I got kicked out of a high school dance for grinding to "The Stroke". Good times.

loooooooooool

honestly that makes me like the song a *tiny* bit more, haha

according to wikipedia, this next band shot its first video for this song. "It was a difficult experience for a variety of reasons, and the resulting clip has been widely ridiculed and made fun of by many including the MTV show Beavis & Butt-head, and it has been described as among the worst videos ever."

SONG #6: JOURNEY "SEPARATE WAYS (WORLDS APART)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatorN4P9aA

LOVE this song but it's much better without the video.

I don't remember that video! I like it, everyone looks pretty badass, probably because I was 9 when the song came out and what adults look like at that age leaves a mark

I met Steve Perry once, he smelled like garlic.

lol

more Sandy posts itt pls

and the Tailgate Party one as well please!

yeah Sandy yr killing it

That MTV oral history book from a couple years back has great stories about the videos for "Separate Ways" and Squier's "Rock Me Tonite".

oh god I had never seen that Separate Ways video until now

so bad

some day they will find their instruments

Bad Company are great

Aieee! Another dud! Sorry y'all - heard this a million times, just sort of filed it as "Generic Journey Song" or "Some DAY, LOVE Will FIND You." Never liked it at all... though it's at least a little less in-your-face and irritating than "Any Way You Want It." The only thing I know by these guys that I don't find outright annoying is probably "Wheel In The Sky," which Wiki is telling me is earlier - are they a band known for a clear sonic "evolution" from their X roots to their Y success? I mean, the icy-cool synth lick is kinda interesting, but the One, TWO, ONE-two ONE-two emphasis of the chorus really uses up all the air in the room.

Never seen the video before, but wow, that was beautifully bad - feel like half the parody OTT lip-synching in Yacht Rock comes from this, including obviously the one for "Don't Fight It." Are we sure this isn't a parody?! I mean seriously... the keyboard on the wall! The jacket on the love interest! The slo-mo for the climax! Journey dude backing away desperately from the camera! You could easily make a top 20 of funny things that happen right after the camera cuts to something in this video, but the thing is I can totally see how this would happen, if you didn't know any better what stuff will actually look like on camera or when edited together, standing still and Very Seriously Lip-Synching Your Lines would probably seem like a good way to convey that this is an Intense Song.

There was always two things I've thought Journey has going for them. Steve Perry's Sam Cook-style vox (love Sam Cook) and the fact that all of their songs make me feel like I'm a teenager despite being born in '88 and them being before my time. It's all about the vibe, bruh.

are they a band known for a clear sonic "evolution" from their X roots to their Y success?

They were more of a prog band pre-Perry: http://youtu.be/SRKZ_f67vTw

shit, that was pretty cool.

Amazing to think of (some of) the same dudes floating around outer space in jumpsuits there are, a few years later, the guys enthusiastically lip-synching down at the wharf for "Separate Ways."

The only thing I know by these guys that I don't find outright annoying is probably "Wheel In The Sky"...

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, June 25, 2014

aw man if you can't feel "stone in love" i just

imo the best Bad Company song is "Bad Company" from the album Bad Company by Bad Company.

the thing about Journey is that only their singles are worth listening to. most of the time it is way overproduced but it was the 80's so you forgive some of it. never a band i would purposely play and may or may not turn to radio.

may or may not turn to radio may or may not turn when they come on the radio.