In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

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There was always two things I've thought Journey has going for them. Steve Perry's Sam Cook-style vox (love Sam Cook) and the fact that all of their songs make me feel like I'm a teenager despite being born in '88 and them being before my time. It's all about the vibe, bruh.

Dreamland, Thursday, 26 June 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

are they a band known for a clear sonic "evolution" from their X roots to their Y success?

They were more of a prog band pre-Perry: http://youtu.be/SRKZ_f67vTw

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 26 June 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link

shit, that was pretty cool.

Amazing to think of (some of) the same dudes floating around outer space in jumpsuits there are, a few years later, the guys enthusiastically lip-synching down at the wharf for "Separate Ways."

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 June 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link

The only thing I know by these guys that I don't find outright annoying is probably "Wheel In The Sky"...

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, June 25, 2014

aw man if you can't feel "stone in love" i just

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 June 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link

imo the best Bad Company song is "Bad Company" from the album Bad Company by Bad Company.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 June 2014 05:21 (nine years ago) link

the thing about Journey is that only their singles are worth listening to. most of the time it is way overproduced but it was the 80's so you forgive some of it. never a band i would purposely play and may or may not turn to radio.

Bee OK, Thursday, 26 June 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link

may or may not turn to radio may or may not turn when they come on the radio.

Bee OK, Thursday, 26 June 2014 05:36 (nine years ago) link

I'd argue that Raised on Radio is a solid album all the way through, singles and non-singles alike. But it wouldn't be a very long argument, because y'all will gang up on me.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 June 2014 05:37 (nine years ago) link

because of that dumb video I learned on the internet that Steve Perry really had a girlfriend named Sherrie

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:00 (nine years ago) link

oh?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:01 (nine years ago) link

ok I lol'ed

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:04 (nine years ago) link

also i hate you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:05 (nine years ago) link

it was understood from the start that there were going to be some songs in this thread that doctor casino knew, but didn't know he knew, for various reasons such as misleading, or not-so-obvious, titles. our next couple songs have super-obvious titles, so i'm going to assume that if he thinks he doesn't know, for example, molly hatchet's "flirtin' with disaster," then he really doesn't know molly hatchet's "flirtin' with disaster."

SONG #7: MOLLY HATCHET "FLIRTIN' WITH DISASTER"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3afKw_mcY

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 June 2014 08:05 (nine years ago) link

molly hatchet were named for a 17th century hooker who, legend has it, hooked wealthy men and decapitated them as soon as she was done.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 June 2014 08:10 (nine years ago) link

also, if memory serves, i saw molly hatchet open for kansas some decades ago. i remember young me thinking it was an inappropriate match of opener and headliner.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 June 2014 08:13 (nine years ago) link

I don't think they get much airplay in Canada? I don't recognize this; they don't turn up on the CHEZ or Q107 lists. It's not doing very much for me. The comments about them being a 2nd-rate Skynyrd seem OTM based on this + I never really loved Skynyrd in the first place.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 26 June 2014 10:36 (nine years ago) link

I never really loved Skynyrd in the first place.

Like, to ever listen to a non-single.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 26 June 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link

Really need a looping GIF of Steve Perry from :29 to :32 in the Separate Ways video.

Ross Valory slapping that headless Steinberger will never not be funny, nor will Steve Smith looking like the world's biggest fucking dork when he has to do anything besides play the drums. Also Jonathan Cain trying to mime "playing keyboards" and coming out looking like "adorable kitten" at :54.

Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 June 2014 12:16 (nine years ago) link

Really need a looping GIF of Steve Perry from :29 to :32 in the Separate Ways video.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-26-2014/sMNE6b.gif

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 26 June 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

Almost :)

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 26 June 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

I don't think they get much airplay in Canada? I don't recognize this; they don't turn up on the CHEZ or Q107 lists. It's not doing very much for me. The comments about them being a 2nd-rate Skynyrd seem OTM based on this + I never really loved Skynyrd in the first place.

Was just looking at the playlist from the past few hours on Edmonton's K97 and saw that it was on it. Granted it did play at 4:10 AM.

MarkoP, Thursday, 26 June 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

Perry copping Sam Cooke's vocals OTM - one of the best things about them imo. Singles are amazing, Lovin Touchin Squeezin is the best (why? because it has a na-na-na refrain, which immediately makes any song awesome)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 June 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

yeah I gotta agree there

polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 26 June 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

Was gonna say I generally dig "Feeling That Way/Anytime" and how well it approximates the Roy Thomas Baker stacked-vocals thing...only to find out it was produced by Roy Thomas Baker.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 June 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

The only thing I know by these guys that I don't find outright annoying is probably "Wheel In The Sky"...

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, June 25, 2014

aw man if you can't feel "stone in love" i just

― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know if i can't - it's in this thread's queue! I googled the lyrics and it doesn't look familiar, but I am trying to avoid spoiling myself beyond that....

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

haha, i appreciate your honoring the scientific rigor of this thread!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link

Flirtin' With Disaster: This is ruling hard in the intro, really living up to their cover art (which always kinda intrigued but intimidated me). The shift into the verse is a little disappointing - between their Frazetta imagery and the big heavy opening I was expecting kind of a massive epic, not earthly boogie-downs. But it's a good one of those - high-energy toe-tapping tempo, and the band gets to show off their chops in turn. Nobody's on autopilot here, lots for everybody to do in the car - would have worked great in a way for that Wayne's World scene. Still, when it breaks for the storm clouds to gather again for a second, that's my favorite part I think.

"Flirtin' with disaster, y'all!", ha, I like that! It's a weird sound, this kinda reedy Southern voice, multitracked to an almost metallic surface, against this much bigger, rockier, mud-and-blood sound. I think he sounds a little bit like he's trying too hard and putting on a role in a few places, like when he invokes the solo, or basically whenever he tries to ad-lib. UM BOP BOP YEAH-UN-YEAH - hrm, yeah, I dunno, I could see that growing on me and being the part everybody sings along to when it comes on...

But awwww, yeah, this is my kind of big guitar segment. Work out for a while solo, then form the Voltron team, super guitars in rubber-rainbow unison, stretching and releasing, doing flips in the mix.

So, yeah Big thumbs up on this one - almost certainly going on my ballot for some dude's poll. Is it worth grabbing the LP next time I see it in the two-dollar bin?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

being the part everybody sings along to when it comes on...

Molly Hatchet was my first concert I attended solo, at age 13, and everybody yelled along to this at the top of their lungs

polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

hooray!

southern rock achievement unlocked!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 June 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

...by unlocking the southern rock achievement, you have upgraded to a 70s Trans Am

http://images.highperformancepontiac.com/images/0605_hppp_06z+2000_pontiac_trans_am+hood.jpg

that's not my post, Friday, 27 June 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

<3 u screaming chicken

one of the all-time automotive design triumphs

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 27 June 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link

Is it worth grabbing the LP next time I see it in the two-dollar bin?

i'm pretty sure "flirtin' with disaster" is the only molly hatchet song i've ever heard, so no idea! i just tried the lead track, "whiskey man," and the results were inconclusive. it tries a little too hard to make a song out of a single, kind of aerosmith-y, riff, doesn't really go anywhere, and sounds pretty much like the b-list lynyrd skynyrd i was expecting. and it's not entirely bad.

A-plus band logo and album cover (by frank frazetta) meanwhile.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 27 June 2014 07:57 (nine years ago) link

southern rock achievement unlocked!

haha! in addition to the trans am and the hat, you now of course move up to the next southern rock level. this level features one of the three principal recordings (the others being eric clapton's versions of "cocaine" and "after midnight") that allowed songwriter j.j. cale (RIP) to lead a life of unfathomably awesome leisure.

SONG #8: LYNYRD SKYNYRD "CALL ME THE BREEZE"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TpfK-4gS08

fact checking cuz, Friday, 27 June 2014 08:05 (nine years ago) link

if DC doesn't know "Call Me The Breeze" then I'll doubt that he's really from Georgia

Euler, Friday, 27 June 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link

in my head I'm already dancing to this song i fucking love it so much

SKYNYRRRRRRRRRRRD

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

speaking of hats and Skynyrd, here's a picture of me in 1976 wearing Leon Wilkeson's (RIP) hat. And he's wearing mine.

http://i58.tinypic.com/2vux62r.jpeg

Sandy, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

Sandy, you rule.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

I hope that wasn't too big and I'm not in trouble

Sandy, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

Naw, that hat's pretty average sized.

holy shit!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 June 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

Sandy!!!!!

guwop (crüt), Friday, 27 June 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

And loooool, no, I don't rule, I was just lucky in my youth and led somewhat of a charmed life. My first job out of undergrad was as a production assistant to the big concert promoter in Pittsburgh (DiCesare/Engler) and I was the only female on the staff, and I was young and loved music so the bands and crews were very friendly to me. And I made a lot of great friends in the process.
I do have an addendum to the Billy Squier story: the night after the Cleveland Foreigner/Squier show where I was one of the people who did "The Stroke," The Stones were playing the same venue (Richfield Coliseum). All of the Atlantic bigshots were in town for the Stones and they were courting Squier big time as his contract with Capitol was ending. So after the Foreigner show, Ahmet Ertegun rented out the restaurant at Swingos (legendary Cleveland rock hotel - if you saw "Almost Famous," you know it) for a party. It was ostensibly a party for Foreigner (who were on Atlantic) but actually it was held to woo Squier. It was one of those typical 70s/early 80s extravagant rock parties - everybody got their own bottle of Dom Perignon upon entering. Not too big, about 40 people. And my friend Pattie and I were the only girls there. So everybody was feeling very good (lots of coke openly being shared as well) and Ertegun tells Pattie and I that he enjoyed our performance and that he thought we had "something special" and he wanted to talk to us about our "careers," looool. So we played along and sat on his lap and let him tell us that he would like to have us come to New York and make some demos. We were all laughing because we knew he was just playing, and he knew that we were smart enough to know that he was just playing. But hey, I got to sit on Ahmet Ertegun's lap and do loads of blow and drink lots of free Dom Perignon. And he comped us for Stones tickets the next night.
Those were good times.

Sandy, Friday, 27 June 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

Sandy you are my hero. Very impressive that you navigated all that craziness and managed to have fun and come out intact.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 June 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

Ertegun was the guy that signed Led Zeppelin right? And he told Iron Butterfly that instead of "In a Garden of Eden" they change it to something exotic sounding and middle eastern IIRC

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

omg Sandy, amazing

polyamanita (sleeve), Friday, 27 June 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Ertegun founded Atlantic Records and he discovered and signed so many legends. Led Zeppelin, Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding, Ray Charles, Wilson Pickett, The Young Rascals, Cream. He talked Crosby, Stills, and Nash into adding Neil Young to the band.
That's one of the many reasons we knew he was goofing on us about our "careers," hahaha.

Sandy, Friday, 27 June 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

people say the seventies were not a good looking time, i say let's not be so certain about the past

j., Friday, 27 June 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

Holy crap, Sandy, that's an amazing story!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 June 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link

Sandy you have made my day life everything with that photo, also being you etc MOAR STORIES holy shit

<3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 June 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link


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