In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

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let's not talk about why i'm thinking of the movie at all (secret answer: i kind of love it)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

movie is better than the band!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

and that scene is hilar

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

I was trying to find the scene, maybe it's soon after that, where he sings the 'cmon cmon now fuck me babe, can't you see that I want you to give me head' or something?

maybe I imagined that though? It's been years since I last saw it. hmmm maybe time for a reviewing

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Y'all are making me weirdly interested in seeing the movie. That, and realizing Kyle MacLachlan's in it.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

The movie is the only thing I ever liked about the Doors, even as a rebellious 70s rock teen I was like "turn them the fuck off"

Sandy, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

i loved the Doors in high school, gorged on the movie repeatedly well into college

I still have a nostalgia for The Doors and there are things that I definitely love about them but in my adulthood it's not hard to see how terribly lolsome they are

anyway I recommend the movie. also it's a nice change from Olly Stone beating you over the head with one of his other 10 hobbyhorses at the time so

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

My best friend back then's litmus test for sleeping with a guy - if he liked the Doors, no way

Sandy, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

They're one of those acts I think that could seem like a really good idea at a very specific point in time, and to me seem like they should have no traction outside of that scene. Yet some subset of the youth continue to discover them, I think. Wonder what they would have turned into had they survived the early 70s. I bet they could have made at least an "interesting" disco record.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Kyle's wig in the Doors = A+. Also PAUL WILLIAMS as Andy Warhol's sidekick and Cripsin Glover as Andy Warhol. So many awesome things in that movie... (and yes VG that scene/line is in there, but I think it's something he adlibs during a live show before getting arrested?)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

it is weird how much I love that movie given that I have absolutely zero interest in the actual band

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

xpost if by "a very specific point in time" you mean "never" then well, yeah

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

My best friend back then's litmus test for sleeping with a guy - if he liked the Doors, no way

― Sandy, Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:38 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha when I was in college, we had a similar litmus test - if a guy had Jim Morrison's book of poetry and acted like that meant something interesting, no way.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

my wife still has Morrison's books (plural!) on our library shelves

they are kinda funny in a ridiculous way tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

the poet/shaman/Lizard King stuff will never not be funny, but the debut and L.A. Woman both stand up well against other albums from those years

Brad C., Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

Strange Days is the best imo.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

The best Doors albums are the live ones from 1970 that they've been putting out in recent years. Fucking hilarious. (That said, I actually like The Doors, Morrison Hotel and L.A. Woman quite a bit. But I don't listen to them often.)

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

I made the blue cars go away.

how's life, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Strange Days is great

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Honestly it wasn't the poetry books themselves so much as it was the dude's tendency to think that owning/liking those books made him deep/thoughtful ESPECIALLY if those were the only poetry books he owned or even could name.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

kinda like, instead of leather pants

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

The best Doors albums are the live ones from 1970 that they've been putting out in recent years. Fucking hilarious. (That said, I actually like The Doors, Morrison Hotel and L.A. Woman quite a bit. But I don't listen to them often.)

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:02 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I loved them as a kid but went through a long period of my twenties/early 30s hating them. Now, I back to thinking they are awesome, in no small part due to hearing the live records from 1970, which are so bizarre and sleazy and great.

I really love all the albums.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Wandering way over into Johnny Rivers/Tom Jones territory

basically the reason i like the song.

also, my best friend has a theory that any song with the phrase "come on, come on" in it is automatically great.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

something about the rhythm section isn't working here

my favorite thing about the doors is that ray manzarek produced X, who also were somewhat challenged in the rhythm section department, but who i love wholeheartedly. (it has never been entirely clear to me, though, what manzarek actually did in those sessions.)

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

re: Manzarek & Doors, well he got a pretty decent version of Soul Kitchen out of it!
I like the Tom Jones treatment on Touch Me too.

campreverb, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link

i used to hate the doors for all the sensible reasons mentioned here but they're really a pretty funny, great band. morrison is hilarious, the rest of the band's excellent.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

For the record, one Doors song did make my ballot! Though in hindsight I definitely ranked it too high.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

i think there was a moment a few years back when i realized that despite going "ugh i hate them, hell with jim morrison" whenever they came up in conversation i never switch the station when a doors song comes on, which is something i can't say about a lot of classic rock bands.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

A point in the Doors' favor: without them, the 1969 Rally For Decency never would have happened.

http://forum.johndensmore.com/index.php?showtopic=2673

MIAMI March 23 - Some 30,000 hand clapping persons, some waving signs saying "Down With Obscenity," rallied in the Orange Bowl today to support a teenage crusade for decency in entertainment.

Teenagers organized the rally after Jim Morrison, 24 years old, the lead singer of The Doors, a rock group, was charged with indecent exposure during a concert in Miami on March 1. Six warrants have been issued for Mr. Morriosn' arrest.

Mike Levesque, 17, the originator of the rally, a senior at Miami Springs High School, said the idea had grown out of a Roman Catholic youth group discussion two days after the concert by The Doors.

"This is not a protest rally," said Julie James, 18 a member of the teenage Rally For Decency. "We're not against something. We're for something."

TALKS ON GOD AND SEX

Teenage speakers gave three minute talks on God, parents, patriotism, sexuality and brotherhood. There were appearances by professional entertainers, who donated their time.

"Five virtues ," selected as the keynote of the rally, were "belief in God and that He loves us; love of our planet and country; love of our family, reverence of one's sexuality, and equality of all men."

"Sex is definately being exploited and it is because society has been losing its reverence for one's sexuality," Miss James said.

The shirt sleeved crowd basking in the warm sun cheered for Jackie Gleason, Anita Bryant and the Lettermen, popular music singers who appeared in order to applaud the teenage rally.

"I believe this kind of movement will snowball across the United States and perhaps around the world," Mr Gleason said.

"I think it's great there should be more things like that," said Tony Butala of the Lettermen.

Young Levesque said he was thrilled by the rapid growth of the decency movement and the support it had gained from adults.

The crowd was about evenly split between teenagers and adults.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

Doors vs. Eagles: The two most-hated classic rock bands?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

I want Peace Frog or Outfield to be the next songs, pretty please?

Moka, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

All the chatter upthread about Outfield got me pretty curious, I admit. OTOH, a Doors rock block, though dire to contemplate, would be a nice way to clear the list of some of the stuff I'm most dreading....

List update: I know Rush's "Limelight," very well - just always thought it was called "The Gilded Page" or "Those Who Wish To Be" or something. It is probably the closest I get to liking a Rush song. I also know "Freewill," which I thought was the same song. Have heard both of those a hundred times over. This may also resolve intheblanks's observation: "... the Atlanta station seems to have totally avoided Rush." Not so, after all!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Damn, I had something really good stuck in my head this morning but now I can't remember what it was and I'm left with Touch Me.

how's life, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

come on come on come on come on now, rock block!!!

SONG #19: THE DOORS "PEACE FROG"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34JarNjoIUes

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

dammit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34JarNjoIU

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

For just a few minutes, before I listen to this, let me hang on to my hope that the refrain will actually be "Take another bit of peace with my frog." Not sure why the title seems so gross to me but I think it probably has to do with "Kiss That Frog," and/or psychedelic tattoos of little cute tree frogs, which may or may not have been inspired by listening to The Doors. (Do the Grateful Dead have a frog, or just a bear?)

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

thanks for the list updates, dr. c.

a Doors rock block, though dire to contemplate, would be a nice way to clear the list of some of the stuff I'm most dreading

otm.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/peace-frogs.jpeg

how's life, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

Doors vs. Eagles: The two most-hated classic rock bands?

― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Eagles irritate more bc you still hear them but Doors far more terrible.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

xpost how's life: yeah! that thing! Is that a thing? Is that named for the Doors? Or did they see one and think "Heyyy.... there's a song there!"

Will tune into 103.7 "The Frog" when i return from getting a slice of pizza.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

I think that's from the early 90s and was possibly named for the Doors song.

how's life, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

Still exists as a brand - http://www.peacefrogs.com/

carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

"Peace Frog" is one of only like 2 or 3 Doors songs that I actually enjoy

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

The only thing I ever liked about the Doors was that a very good friend of mine who's not very music-oriented (tho weirdly, he's a great singer) but is an accomplished actor/writer/director fell in love with them in his teens and never let go. I will occasionally give them a pass for that -- and "Peace Frog" is weirdly awesome, in the way that "What's the Buzz?" from the JC Superstar soundtrack is.

a lot of really bad records changed my life (staggerlee), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

Realizing The Doors were the pretentious ? and The Mysterious really aids in my enjoyment of them.

Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

no lie, peace frog rules super-hard and is the greatest of the doors songs in my humble opinion

total jam

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

Peace Frog: Woah, right off the bat this is a different Doors. Scratchy rock for the big party scene, still kinda blowsy but shaking off the gunk. Post-Nuggetsy funk. This is almost...danceable?! And there are even dynamics, pauses to let the thing start back up with a little jerk, and answers from the backing vocals keeping things lively.

I can't believe I'm enjoying a song that is both by the Doors and called 'Peace Frog'! This solo is cool too - pipping and whistley, exactly the kind of slice through the mix that I've looked for from them before. The spoken-word bit though.... eek.

Lotta blood in this for a peace frog. I guess it's an anti-war thing? Kind of a weird topic to pick for their party song. Morrison's not as bad on this as usual but I still think somebody else would have been better. Second listen, still digging the groove. I can't really make out a lot of what he's saying ("Indians scattered on Donuts Highway"? "Blood is the rose of mysterious humans?") but that might be good - happy to have Morrison lost in the action and it makes it feel less like a portentous delivery of important poetry. I wonder which Sixties act was most damaged by the 'influence' of Dylan - or was that a thread?

Surprise thumbs up!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

HOORAY!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link


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