Classic or Dud: Weird Al Yankovic

Spastic is not a medical term, it is not used to refer to a neurological condition.

What do you call people with CP?

I will not be lectured on the offensiveness of the word spastic by a nation of people who throw cunt and fag around indiscriminately.

What nation?

lol what do you call ppl w/ cp?

We call them people with cerebral palsy ime

lol what do you call ppl w/ cp?

cunts and phags

What do you call people with CP?

rolling teen pop thread?

huge lol

huge fp

"Spastic" is indeed a medical term, referring to a particular type of velocity- and direction-dependent increased tone in the skeletal muscles (seen mostly in the limbs), which is typically produced by a lesion in the corticospinal tract. Many neurological diseases cause some degree of spasticity, from spinal cord injuries to MS to stroke. People with cerebral palsy often have spasticity, but not always. "Spastic cerebral palsy" (often specified as "spastic hemiplegia", "spastic diplegia", etc) distinguishes that type from "ataxic" and "athetoid" CP, in which spasticity is not a feature.

There is no class of patients referred to simply as "spastic" by doctors in North America (and I don't think in the UK either). The word sometimes is used as an adjective to describe a pattern of gait or a form of dysarthria.

/neurologist

I knew the first time I heard Word Crimes that Language Log would have a post up within hours pointing out that the less vs fewer distinction and other "prescriptivist peeves" are not actually poor grammar. It took another couple of listens before it occurred to me that BrE speakers would find "spastic" offensive. Never thought "mouthbreathers" was offensive, how does that work again?

Great song anyway, way easier to take than the original.

"wretched fuckwit"

Not only is spastic completely inoffensive in America, the word "moron" in the song, which nobody has singled out, is inarguably more offensive in America. Nobody actually cares about either as anything more than making an inconsequential point, though, so it's not a big deal.

Is the word "retarded" considered offensive in the USA?

Yes, a lot of disability rights groups have rebranded away from the term. The American Association on Mental Retardation (AAMR) became the American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities (AAIDD). IDD is generally considered the more appropriate term right now.

Nobody actually cares about either as anything more than making an inconsequential point, though, so it's not a big deal

I was genuinely shocked by it ("Aw, not Al...." :( ), as per my posts to LL (and hl in the other thread) before it blew up itt

I'm pretty surprised someone would use the word "spastic" as a pejorative in 2014 too but then again I'm not familiar with Weird Al nor do I care about him. Also never been to the USA.

xp Fair enough, but as someone with several family members with pretty severe disabilities, I find that people love occasionally pointing out a spot of inappropriate language, but are perfectly content to ignore the issues otherwise. My school of thought is that as long as there's a world where a show like Derek exists, I have a really hard time caring about such a minor issue.

spaz if you want to

Weird Al seems a bit eugenicist, too, with his desire to get grammar offenders out of the gene pool — perhaps less compassionate than The Onion's old nation's educators alarmed by poorly written suicide notes.
The heroic persistence of Yankovic marches alongside the progressive normalization of geek culture, which may find itself enraged that the tools it created have made the voices of those it hates all the more publicly visible/audible ("we gave them Spell Check, yet look what they do!"). Weird Al generally seems innocuous enough to me, but this song seems to feed off some genuine resentment (even if it's not quite Al's own so much as something that "just works" for the song — not that I know one way or the other). What happened to daring to be stupid? One could care less about these things!

Yes Weird Al Yankovic is deliberately advocating for Eugenics, great call and excellent interpretation

This is ilm. We can ruin anything.

the entire premise of the song is dickish grammar nazi shit that anyone over 20 should have grown out of

sorry i didn't realise he was some sort of national treasure or w/e but yknow, deal

Can we all just go back and watch the "Foil" video again?

Seriously. Do it now if you haven't done it already.

The "I" of Weird Al's songs is alway Weird Al himself. He is also a fat surgeon who was in Nirvana.

he cannot pretend

he must actually be it

also he was in love with ricky?

the entire premise of the song is dickish grammar nazi shit that anyone over 20 should have grown out of

yes, i'm glad you got the joke!

With proper disciple "humour" is not necessary

I'm pretty offended by Al's use of the word "Weird." Is it meant as a perjorative? Isn't he reifying received norms with its usage? Perhaps "Decentered/Problematized Al" would serve as a more useful nomiker.

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genius post imo

http://www.avclub.com/article/weird-al-yankovic-answers-our-11-questions-206949

5. How would your enemies describe you?

WAY: Very poorly, I’m sure. Probably using monosyllabic words, bad grammar, improper syntax. I have to assume my enemies are idiots.

otm based on available sample

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqg-YZhr3bA

so i googled to see whether weird al has ever acknowledged that his "trigger happy" was a total jack of "Skeet Surfin" from Top Secret and all i found was a big interview he did with the dissolve about Top Secret where he mentions how great "skeet surfin" is without bringing up "trigger happy."

maybe he made a deal with z.a.z. where in exchange for them not suing he has to praise the movie whenever possible?

lol i love that naked gun scene

i'm sure he takes a lot of inspiration from other comedy and sometimes it's just more transparent than it usually is. when the guy's whole thing is parodying ostensibly 'serious' songs, there's a weird gray area as far as borrowing from fellow comedians. i was always annoyed at "Truck Drivin' Song," which is like a carbon copy of the whole concept of Monty Python's "Lumberjack Song."

the new one, "sports song," is up - some funny lines but my least favorite so far, people doin the "I will hip you to how silly sports fandom is" thing is like

c'mon bro

sports song is like straight from the tom lehrer era

clearly inspired by "Fight Fiercely Harvard", but he takes it somewhere else, and it's good.

It's no "Fight Fiercely, Harvard".

xp fuck

Heh, while looking up to see if I could find any info on the "Trigger Happy"-"Skeet Surfin" connection I found this thread from a newsgroup from 1992.

Oh wow, I never even heard "Fight Fiercely Harvard." It's pretty decentered/problematized that I made that connection anyway, wow.

But yeah, it's so Tom Lehrer/Allen Shermany that I was kind of disappointed that the video wasn't like full of fur coats and triangular flags

HURL THAT SPHEROID DOWN THE FIELD

DEMONSTRATE TO THEM OUR PROWESS, DO!

Tim and Eric have the best sports song

do you wanna go sit in the cell where we put the guy who said Flying Conchords are better than Weird Al?

BECAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM

a nice roomy cell sounds nice yes thank you

VG forgot to mention that we filled it with farts

are they smelly farts?

lots of people eating fried and poached eggs around here. they are probably smelly.