Brian Wilson biopic 'Love and Mercy' directed by Bill Pohlad starring Paul Dano

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though based on the clip croup posted, i now want leonard nimoy to play eugene landy.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

Can they start combining biopics with literary adaptations because a Brian Wilson movie would be p cool if it was also Benjamin Button.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

i now want leonard nimoy to play eugene landy.

Basically his character in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Ham Slices (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

the thumbnail image for that landy-wilson YT vid is perfect; like, I don't even need to watch that clip or read a BW biography to get their whole relationship.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

are there any weird/experimental biopics? I did not like the Dylan one or Last Days but at least they both tried to do something unusual instead of putting "historical accuracy" first. I feel like the 'uncanny valley' of seeing a dude act like James Brown just lends itself to fucking around with form/nonlinear narratives or w/e rather than trying to be as accurate as possible. There are probably other more subtle ways to subvert this boring straight-ahead approach than doesn't require getting all freaky and un-mainstream. But the singular quest to make a definitive accurate film depiction of a major public figure seems like the most boring and least useful way to use film to explore a character.
Idk, tldr hollywood sux

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

you didn't like I'm Not There? There's always Superstar lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

tbh i went into it with super negative preconceptions, i'd be willing to see it again.

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

what's Superstar, is that a karen carpenter biopic or are you talking about that molly shannon movie?

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

OH shit! N/m just found it. My gosh it looks freaky

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

didn't see all of I'm Not There but tbh the parts i did see seemed kind of cringeworthy. everybody raved about cate blanchett but i found her whole section to be hokey as fuck

marcos, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

Re: superstar - they should use dolls for a kiss biopic too. Or mecha!

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

I'm Not There was awful

da croupier, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

my complaints about I'm Not There are that it's basically a retread of the (generally more fun) Velvet Goldmine but other than that I think it's a very fitting approach to our Bob.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

yea it was a cool concept, makes lots of sense to get completely different actors for the different bob phases

marcos, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

Greenaway should do a Webern biopic

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

my friend said the Johnny Cash one was actually really good but have not checked it out yet

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

also, Ken Russell to thread

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

The Cash one was pretty standard biopic but Phoenix was solid.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

haha yeah Lisztomania is great

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

I'm one of the few people who liked the pretty square Ray in part because the actresses were strong.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

If, in my wildest dreams, a royal trux biopic gets made.. It NEEDS to involve swamp creatures and talking coyotes and shooting ranges and baseball

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

A hawkwind biopic where the band is constantly heard but not seen.. All just festival travellers and bikers lost in the spacerock

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

Psych Revival Parking Lot

yessssss!

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

I'm Not There was awful

I don't turn off many movies but I just got bored of this and did.

There's no way it'll be as good as the Brian Wilson scene in Walk Hard

Dewey Cox: [speaking of his complex song] It's still not finished yet. I'm hearing... more Aboriginal percussionists. And I want an army of digeridoos. Fifty thousand digeridoos!

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 24 July 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

<puts microphone to goat's stomach>

I like Dano a lot but every time I see him I keep thinking of the scene where Daniel Day-Lewis murders him in There Will Be Blood and then get the giggles

Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 July 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link

He looks more like Lionel Messi than Brian Wilson in that publicity pic. Missed opportunity to cast Bill Pullman as Landy-era Brian and, in his acting debut, Bill Clinton as 'prop him up behind a keyboard and send him out on tour' era Brian.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 July 2014 09:27 (nine years ago) link

He looks more like Lionel Messi than Brian Wilson in that publicity pic.

ahah. otm !
"Football's Up".

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 July 2014 10:41 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

Has anyone seen this?

tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 1 March 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link

did it actually come out?

OTMFM. As opposed to "based on a true story" movies (which are arguably of some merit if it's a compelling story), biopics are usually just boilerplate "and then this thing you already know about happened, and then this other thing you already know about happened" chapter books with an optional "and then he/she/they died" epilogue. They may be able to salvage a decent performance from the wreckage, but it's almost always wreckage.

the ian curtis film, "control," was the worst example of this. each horribly-staged and unconvincing scene had no reason for being except for people in the audience to say things like "i know this! this is when they debuted at a club!" "this is the scene when they're signed to factory!" the way they staged his death was particularly grotesque in its lack of any purpose except to fetishistically recreate the mise-en-scene of his suicide.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 1 March 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

one of the few movies that seemed genuinely offensive to me, as in stomach-turning

did that jimi hendrix biopic even get theatrical distribution btw? it just turned up at the video store this week. i'm assuming by its general non-reception that it's horrible.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 1 March 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

I don't know anyone that's ever seen it, but a Hendrix biopic without any Hendrix music seems pretty pointless.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 1 March 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

it doesn't have hendrix music? i assume the estate wouldn't license any of it? whoops!

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link

i imagine the brian wilson biopic directed by gus van sant and just being like five 15-minute-long shots of him sitting at his piano in the middle of a pile of sand in his living room, composing fragments of "til i die."

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

title: "busy doin' nothin'"

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

I don't know anyone that's ever seen it, but a Hendrix biopic without any Hendrix music seems pretty pointless.

― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, March 1, 2015 9:22 PM (2 hours ago)

hendrix movie also had a controversial scene where he hits his gf, kathy etchingham (who denied such a thing ever happening).

tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link

idg the casting of John Cusack as beaten-down adult Brian AT ALL.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link

yeah ridiculous

tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

it doesn't have hendrix music? i assume the estate wouldn't license any of it? whoops!

I believe this was exactly the case. I kept waiting for it to turn into The Johnny Handricks Story, ala the Jackie Jormp-Jomp biopic:

http://videos.criticalcommons.org/transcoded/http/ccserver.usc.edu/8080/cc/Members/ironman28/clips/30rockJanisMontageH264.mov/jpeg/30rockjanismontageh264-mov.jpg

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 March 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link

There was a Brian Jones movie a while back that did the same thing--they had to stick to songs the Stones did covers of.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 March 2015 03:57 (nine years ago) link

Trivia: director is son of Minnesota Twins owner Carl Pohlad.

bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Monday, 2 March 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link

i hate biopics on the whole, but i've been saying for years that BW's would make one of the more remarkable ones

Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Monday, 2 March 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link

I do know someone who saw that Andrex 3000 pic. he said it was awful

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

The Brian Wilson one could be great if based on Nick Kent's piece on him. It's one of the single best pieces of rock writing I've ever read, and it tells the story so well.

Poliopolice, Monday, 2 March 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

most biopics are pretty bad though some are entertaining. i'm a little intrigued by don cheadle's miles ahead thing since it is focusing on mostly on 70s electric miles and that 5-year recluse period, which doesn't strike me as the obvious traditional-biopic period to focus on w/r/t miles

marcos, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

another one where there's unlikely to be any actual musi

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link

c

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link

If it's 2 hrs of a decrepit miles in a musty brownstone with blackout curtains, reluctantly entertaining visits from Lester Bowie and Cicely Tyson I'm for it.

otm

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

Whist talking about The Beach Boys I mentioned The Cowsills documentary Family Band and somebody thought I was talking about this.

I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

Found a half hour video about why this is the best movie ever. Seems more time efficient to just watch the actual movie.

I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

No idea where to put this but Brian’s wife Melinda passed away. Only 77.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:24 (three months ago) link

Although she was critical for pulling Brian away from Dr. Landy, she was also responsible for the massive breakdown with Brian and Carl (they didn't resolve their differnces until Carl was dying from cancer).

She also also created major tension between Brian and Andy Paley, Don Was, Sean O'Hagan, basically anyone who wanted to work with Brian on new material in the 90s.

All that said, Melinda was a major factor in getting Darrian/The Wondermints to work with Van Dyke and Brian to finish and agree on a proper sequence for "Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE."

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 00:44 (three months ago) link

Hope he's getting the support he needs now to deal with his grief. I always got the impression that Brian was still pretty fragile - IIRC he still has very harrowing incidents when he's under a lot of stress.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 01:25 (three months ago) link

yeah...

The death was announced on Brian Wilson’s Instagram page, where the 81-year-old singer-songwriter wrote, “My heart is broken. Melinda, my beloved wife of 28 years, passed away this morning. Our five children and I are just in tears. We are lost. Melinda was more than my wife. She was my savior. She gave me the emotional security I needed to have a career. She encouraged me to make the music that was closest to my heart. She was my anchor. She was everything for us. Please say a prayer for her.” He closed the statement with his trademark sign-off: “Love and Mercy, Brian.”

https://variety.com/2024/music/obituaries-people-news/melinda-wilson-dead-brian-wilson-wife-beach-boys-love-mercy-1235892422/

dow, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 03:56 (three months ago) link

v sad

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 04:02 (three months ago) link

Although she was critical for pulling Brian away from Dr. Landy, she was also responsible for the massive breakdown with Brian and Carl (they didn't resolve their differnces until Carl was dying from cancer).

She also also created major tension between Brian and Andy Paley, Don Was, Sean O'Hagan, basically anyone who wanted to work with Brian on new material in the 90s.

All that said, Melinda was a major factor in getting Darrian/The Wondermints to work with Van Dyke and Brian to finish and agree on a proper sequence for "Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE."

I’ve heard this too—also that she was behind him working with former pro wrestler Joe Thomas—but never fully understood what this was all about. Melinda tells a story about how excited he was to be working with Andy again in what I believe was the I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times movie. It almost makes me wonder if she was suspicious of anyone who she thought might be trying to use Brian for their own gain but that’s just a guess.

That said, the latter achievement should earn her a commemorative plaque in the RnRHoF.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 04:15 (three months ago) link


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