CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL: THE RESULTS

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PINK FLOYD RULES

Euler, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

But hey. I'm from the part of the country where traffic stops every afternoon, we get out of our cars and "Freebird" plays over the radio speakers.

― pplains, Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at last, we finally understand what REM was trying to do with "Everybody Hurts."

gr8080's link is suuuuper key for anybody who hasn't seen it yet, still cracks me up. "Solsbury Hill" is great, obviously, but I cut it pretty early as something I'm not sure I ever heard on CR radio. Maybe in more recent years, I guess? I know Genesis should grandfather solo Gabriel in, but IME he didn't seem to really click into where the format was going.

eephus OTM about term-paper rock, Rush are boring but I wouldn't change the channel on "Limelight," which does sidestep the "oops, a groove, better run" quality that Old Lunch identifies and which I bitched about on the other thread re: Spirit of the Radio. It's not even like they're avoiding a groove, it's like they really can't tell the difference between a groovy part and something else.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

My old roommate and pal's dad used to insist, casually, that back in his college days, his band's main rival in town was Steve Miller's, but that he didn't begrudge his former equal's success, as fame takes its toll too: "You should see Steve these days! He's a mess!" I was never convinced the chronology or geography of this worked at all, but I would also totally respect a dude whose imagined, bogus musical rival was Steve Miller.

I love this.

Hard to see any write-ins making it tbh - a dozen votes is a high hurdle.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

I only heard the "Solsbury Hill" from the live '82 album.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

xps to some dude - that's true for most of these for me, but Solsbury Hill has become such a clichéd signifier for "there's gonna be some heavy shit, but don't worry, it ends happily" that it's hard for me to think of it out of that context.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

I still have dim hopes for "Amie," though tbh given how unpredictable some of the results have been, I'm not sure it would have placed even if it'd been in the noms list! But maybe. It's been a darn country list so far, that should favor the Pure Prairie League.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link

My #1! I know it isn't the most CR of CR tunes, but I can't help myself, I love me some Rush.

― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:00 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My #2! PROG HUGS TO YOU FRIEND

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

What I like about "Tom Sawyer" (or anything else from that album, really) is actually pretty different from what I like about "Come Sail Away". It's more 'Apollonian', more about the elegance of its construction, how the different lines and parts interlock. There's always a strong sense of clarity for me despite the complexity and busy-ness of the texture? It's closer to how I appreciate something like mid-90s Aphex Twin, actually.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

I know people keep citing it as a cliche, but can anyone actually name a movie trailer that uses Solsbury Hill that isn't that recut Shining trailer?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

I heard Solsbury Hill driving into work this morning -- it's one of those songs that makes me tear up inexplicably, I have no idea what it is that makes me weepy

I really love it though

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

xpost didn't Vanilla Sky use it?

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I'm no film buff but I don't have that association with it at all.
2xpost

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

lol at Solsburry Hill considered classic rock.

Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

Here's an example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPqVNMdx2cU

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

It's top 100 on the CHEZ and Q107 lists fwiw.
xpost

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

I'm getting the impression that some people have much more rockist CR stations.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Hey, whats the opposite of Prog?

Yeah... I don't care either, but here's a David Bowie song:

http://i.imgur.com/eXB4L1S.jpg

63. David Bowie – Rebel Rebel
984 points, 16 votes

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Not my Bowie picks, but it belongs imo

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

xxpost: Yes I suppose classic rock stations play it, but I meant even the most saccharine Nancy Sinatra songs sound more ballsy than this song. It sounds weird with 'rockier' songs by its side.

Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

It's as if CR stations only play it because it features that guy from Genesis.

Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

Because Genesis was all about balls-out rock satori?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

I wish I could remember which completely cringeworthy Starship video I saw which in no way indicated that they would someday gain a toehold in the age of music videos.

― Butthole Phlebotomy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:13 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was it "No Way Out"?
http://youtu.be/LQijT1lcR68

(maybe not, since this is from 1984. But I remember it being on MTV all the goddamn time that summer)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

Solsbury Hill definitely sounds more mannered and arty than most of what's on CRR playlists, but it's an acceptable outlier at this point.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

This and the Ziggy Stardust singles, "Modern Love," and "Changes" were the only Bowie singles I heard on my CR station.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

REBEL REBEL

Lewis - J'Agour (crüt), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

this is the only Bowie I voted for

Lewis - J'Agour (crüt), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

"Rebel Rebel" one of my least favorite of Bowie's smashes. It's fine, good riff, it just sorta wears out its welcome.

Definitely feel like stations are way more likely to play Solsbury Hill now than in the 90s, say, but I have no data to back this up, just a vague sense that artier/college/iPad commercial sensibilities have trickled into the programming, if certainly not as visibly as 80s hard rock and early alt-rock megahits.

Suspect "Changes" is quietly one of Bowie's biggest CR songs. I hear "Fame" enough though, and "Young Americans."

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

I've heard "Space Oddity" quite a bit on Classic Rock.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

"Rebel Rebel" one of my least favorite of Bowie's smashes. It's fine, good riff, it just sorta wears out its welcome.

This, basically. I would have zero issues with it if it felt like something more than a faded carbon copy of the big guns he'd brought out on the previous two albums.

Manilow's Farm-Fresh Razzamatazzberries (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Because Genesis was all about balls-out rock satori?

― EveningStar (Sund4r)

touche

Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

I'm all about the endlessly circling riff.

Lewis - J'Agour (crüt), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

"Solsbury Hill" was a staple of AOR/CR in the '80s, at least where I grew up. It has a weird time signature, totally classic rock!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

reminds me of being a v little kid

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

love when i hear "amie" on the radio it's always so surprising

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

this thread is impossible to keep up with i think i need a desk job

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

I heard "Amie" while I was waiting in line at Walgreens on Saturday. I sang along.*

*I was carrying an infant, which excuses a significant amount of public singing.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

It has a weird time signature, totally classic rock!

If only this were the criteria!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

This and the Ziggy Stardust singles, "Modern Love," and "Changes" were the only Bowie singles I heard on my CR station.

plus "fame" plus "space oddity" plus "heroes" in my cr experience.

PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

...all of which i like a lot more than "rebel rebel," the greatness of the basic "rebel rebel" riff notwithstanding.

PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

"Space Oddity" def. "Heroes" too odd and "Fame" too funky.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

I've heard "Young Americans" and "Let's Dance" plenty as well

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

Bowie played most of the riff himself too.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

lol how much of it exactly

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

apparently he couldn't play the bend at the end

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

I went to a house party outside of KC and there was a band of hoosiers (small 'h', no Indiana affiliation)

I've been mulling this comment over in my head for a while, but being married to an actual Hoosier from Indiana, I decided to ask my wife if there was such a thing as a hoosier not from Indiana. She says no, hoosier specifically means someone from Indiana. Did you maybe mean "hesher"?

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

from the Bowie blog:

The “Rebel Rebel” riff seems crafted for obsession. A shuttle from D to E,*** the riff’s made of three parts—an opening burst (four notes, the first bent), a centerpiece (two quickly strummed E chords) and a resolution, five descending notes that end back with the riff opening. Its structure’s reminiscent of the “Ziggy Stardust” riff, while its tone has a taste of “Jean Genie.” Bowie makes the riff inescapable—in the four-plus minutes of the original “Rebel Rebel,” the riff is only absent in the two bridges and in the two-bar tags at the end of each chorus.

Alan Parker played the riff on the record, using a Les Paul standard and a Fender reverb amp with a single Wharfedale speaker. He later said Bowie had about three-fourths of the riff down when he played it for Parker on an acoustic guitar: he told Parker to make it a bit more Rolling Stones. Parker replayed the riff on his electric, adding some clang and bends (Bowie credited Parker with the three final notes of the riff: Ab, D and E). Its godfather was Keith Richards, who’d made a lifetime habit of compelling two-chord riffs; its target was Mick Ronson, who Bowie seemed to be trying to outdo.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

"Fame" too funky

i think it gets extra cr points for john lennon involvement.

PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

ok folks, two more to go before we wrap up today's results... and oh, what's this? why its another tie.

http://i.imgur.com/uPhikrZ.jpg

61. (tie) The Rolling Stones – Can’t You Hear Me Knocking
986 points, 13 votes

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

"Amie" is a great song but isn't it more of a straight oldies radio staple?

Manilow's Farm-Fresh Razzamatazzberries (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

At your win-dah!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link


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