What I like about "Tom Sawyer" (or anything else from that album, really) is actually pretty different from what I like about "Come Sail Away". It's more 'Apollonian', more about the elegance of its construction, how the different lines and parts interlock. There's always a strong sense of clarity for me despite the complexity and busy-ness of the texture? It's closer to how I appreciate something like mid-90s Aphex Twin, actually.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
I know people keep citing it as a cliche, but can anyone actually name a movie trailer that uses Solsbury Hill that isn't that recut Shining trailer?
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
I heard Solsbury Hill driving into work this morning -- it's one of those songs that makes me tear up inexplicably, I have no idea what it is that makes me weepy
I really love it though
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
xpost didn't Vanilla Sky use it?
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I'm no film buff but I don't have that association with it at all.2xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
lol at Solsburry Hill considered classic rock.
― Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
Here's an example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPqVNMdx2cU
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
It's top 100 on the CHEZ and Q107 lists fwiw.xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
I'm getting the impression that some people have much more rockist CR stations.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Hey, whats the opposite of Prog?
Yeah... I don't care either, but here's a David Bowie song:
http://i.imgur.com/eXB4L1S.jpg
63. David Bowie – Rebel Rebel984 points, 16 votes
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Not my Bowie picks, but it belongs imo
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
xxpost: Yes I suppose classic rock stations play it, but I meant even the most saccharine Nancy Sinatra songs sound more ballsy than this song. It sounds weird with 'rockier' songs by its side.
― Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
It's as if CR stations only play it because it features that guy from Genesis.
― Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Because Genesis was all about balls-out rock satori?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
I wish I could remember which completely cringeworthy Starship video I saw which in no way indicated that they would someday gain a toehold in the age of music videos.
― Butthole Phlebotomy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:13 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Was it "No Way Out"?http://youtu.be/LQijT1lcR68
(maybe not, since this is from 1984. But I remember it being on MTV all the goddamn time that summer)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
Solsbury Hill definitely sounds more mannered and arty than most of what's on CRR playlists, but it's an acceptable outlier at this point.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
This and the Ziggy Stardust singles, "Modern Love," and "Changes" were the only Bowie singles I heard on my CR station.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
REBEL REBEL
― Lewis - J'Agour (crüt), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
this is the only Bowie I voted for
"Rebel Rebel" one of my least favorite of Bowie's smashes. It's fine, good riff, it just sorta wears out its welcome.
Definitely feel like stations are way more likely to play Solsbury Hill now than in the 90s, say, but I have no data to back this up, just a vague sense that artier/college/iPad commercial sensibilities have trickled into the programming, if certainly not as visibly as 80s hard rock and early alt-rock megahits.
Suspect "Changes" is quietly one of Bowie's biggest CR songs. I hear "Fame" enough though, and "Young Americans."
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
I've heard "Space Oddity" quite a bit on Classic Rock.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
This, basically. I would have zero issues with it if it felt like something more than a faded carbon copy of the big guns he'd brought out on the previous two albums.
― Manilow's Farm-Fresh Razzamatazzberries (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
― EveningStar (Sund4r)
touche
― Moka, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm all about the endlessly circling riff.
― Lewis - J'Agour (crüt), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
"Solsbury Hill" was a staple of AOR/CR in the '80s, at least where I grew up. It has a weird time signature, totally classic rock!
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
reminds me of being a v little kid
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
love when i hear "amie" on the radio it's always so surprising
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
this thread is impossible to keep up with i think i need a desk job
I heard "Amie" while I was waiting in line at Walgreens on Saturday. I sang along.*
*I was carrying an infant, which excuses a significant amount of public singing.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
It has a weird time signature, totally classic rock!
If only this were the criteria!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
plus "fame" plus "space oddity" plus "heroes" in my cr experience.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
...all of which i like a lot more than "rebel rebel," the greatness of the basic "rebel rebel" riff notwithstanding.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
"Space Oddity" def. "Heroes" too odd and "Fame" too funky.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
I've heard "Young Americans" and "Let's Dance" plenty as well
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Bowie played most of the riff himself too.
lol how much of it exactly
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
apparently he couldn't play the bend at the end
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
I went to a house party outside of KC and there was a band of hoosiers (small 'h', no Indiana affiliation)
I've been mulling this comment over in my head for a while, but being married to an actual Hoosier from Indiana, I decided to ask my wife if there was such a thing as a hoosier not from Indiana. She says no, hoosier specifically means someone from Indiana. Did you maybe mean "hesher"?
― odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
from the Bowie blog:
The “Rebel Rebel” riff seems crafted for obsession. A shuttle from D to E,*** the riff’s made of three parts—an opening burst (four notes, the first bent), a centerpiece (two quickly strummed E chords) and a resolution, five descending notes that end back with the riff opening. Its structure’s reminiscent of the “Ziggy Stardust” riff, while its tone has a taste of “Jean Genie.” Bowie makes the riff inescapable—in the four-plus minutes of the original “Rebel Rebel,” the riff is only absent in the two bridges and in the two-bar tags at the end of each chorus.
Alan Parker played the riff on the record, using a Les Paul standard and a Fender reverb amp with a single Wharfedale speaker. He later said Bowie had about three-fourths of the riff down when he played it for Parker on an acoustic guitar: he told Parker to make it a bit more Rolling Stones. Parker replayed the riff on his electric, adding some clang and bends (Bowie credited Parker with the three final notes of the riff: Ab, D and E). Its godfather was Keith Richards, who’d made a lifetime habit of compelling two-chord riffs; its target was Mick Ronson, who Bowie seemed to be trying to outdo.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
"Fame" too funky
i think it gets extra cr points for john lennon involvement.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
ok folks, two more to go before we wrap up today's results... and oh, what's this? why its another tie.
http://i.imgur.com/uPhikrZ.jpg
61. (tie) The Rolling Stones – Can’t You Hear Me Knocking986 points, 13 votes
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
"Amie" is a great song but isn't it more of a straight oldies radio staple?
― Manilow's Farm-Fresh Razzamatazzberries (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
At your win-dah!
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
Quaaludes were big once.
― campreverb, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
would like to read more rock writing along the lines of the bowie blog post above. i love that stuff.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
God how many Stones songs are ahead of us if this one's made the top 100?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
― Manilow's Farm-Fresh Razzamatazzberries (Old Lunch), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:15 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No way. It was released in 1972 and is more of a gentle country rock cowboy anthem than an oldie.
Can't You Hear Me Knocking was my one Stones vote and it was in my top 10.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
i'm pretty sure every single song by white people that was released before the year 1990 is eligible for this poll so i think "amie" is eligible
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link
There was a brief concerted push to write-in "Amie" during the voting period, but I don't know how many people might've been inclined to participate.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
"can't you hear me knocking" top 10 for me, though i struggled with it because it's not a song i hear very often on cr. but i do hear it on occasion, and it's the definitive rolling stones groove for me. it's also probably my favorite keith richards/mick taylor guitar collabo, and definitely one of my favorite all-time examples of pop songs in which the lead guitar and lead vocal are doing the exact same thing. and i love the way the chorus is just an alternatve/inverse vocal take over the same music as the verse, with jagger playing call-and-response with the guitar during the verse and singing along with it during the chorus.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link