"Alcachofa" by Ricardo Villalobos

It's cos it means he gets 45 quality sound where he can, I guess

Oh yeah it's 3 vinyls. Didn't realize that the speed changed depending on the number of tracks per side... That's interesting. It might help me next time I play it but it is still annoying.

Frm memory that rule applies to everything of his, I got p anal abt checking all my Villalobos LPs/12s out after that (also once had sex to the incorrectly slow Easy Lee, which ws kinda creepy)

He also tends to have different tracks between cd and vinyl and it's somewhere between cool and annoying. In this particular album it annoys me because he left out YGH out of the vinyl version and it's nowhere else to be found in vinyl format. Also some of my favorite tracks were only released on the cd version (waiworinao, fools garden and what you say) and the exclusive tracks on vinyl aren't as good as those.

I would have loved to have waiworinao or what you say instead of "i try to live" which is the only track in the album which I don't care for at all.

Specially mad about the exclusion of waiworinao as it's one of the highlights in here besides dexter and easy lee.

Not to be a dick, but:

http://www.discogs.com/Villalobos-Alcachofa-Tools/release/194548

http://www.discogs.com/Villalobos-Halma/master/124107

Oh wait that's not what you meant, sorry. No sign of YGH as you obv know

Yeah I know they are in there I would just prefer to have the same album and the extra tracks on an ep.

YGH is not in there btw!

in my world of young dance music vinyl, having one side 45 with one track and one side 33 with two tracks is a pretty standard move and hardly some unique trolling exercise by mr villalobos

it's certainly not unusual and as mentioned upthread is to do with maximising volume on each side depending on the length. unless you have an incredibly high end turntable, it's not really that much hassle to change the speed as you change sides, is it?

Are the 45 sides the ones more likely to be played out? That'd also make sense.

My turntable cost about £150 15 years ago - ie it's entry-level - and to change speed you have to take the platter off and manually adjust the belt drive. So that is a hell of hassle for flipping speeds as you change sides, actually.

But I own Alcachofa on CD, so...

All mine it's only ever taken flicking a switch, only trolly move is never mentioning it on the sleeves bt he prob likes the idea of ppl listening to it at the "wrong" speed anyway

i have a lot of admiration for this record and villalobos overall, but i find it hard to love. sometimes i feel like he is the autechre of dance music

A+ zing

I thought autechre were the autechre of dance music

lo i don't know in what universe autechre makes dance music

less so these days

Damnit I thought that ws the joke

sometimes i feel like he is the autechre of dance music

You mean that he's very good at it?

Gotta agree with Marcos. I admire the guys skills at putting together groovrs, but his music is often kinda alienating and gray. Very much like Autechre, yeah.

plenty of autechre tracks could bang in a set.

haha like what?!

"eutow" maybe

idm always was a bit of a contradiction in terms

"montreal"?

not bang i guess, but work as an offset for a harder track or vocal. in a context where no one knows or cares that it's idm.

idk

yeah I can see early early autechre working in some sets, lots of incunabula i bet would work too

flutter! maybe.

i sort of take it back though, not a lot of banging autechre. i mean it's mostly chilltime for sure.

anyway lots of dahnce vinyl switches between 33 and 45. i thought it was about maximizing levels / sound quality esp. bass?

I've heard their work used well in a few mixes but it's usually a remix they did, or a short segment dropped in by Surgeon or other djs of his ilk

plenty of autechre tracks could bang in a set.

― mattresslessness, Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:26 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha like what?!

― the late great, Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:27 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― mattresslessness, Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:26 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"oh yea, you know, like 'q3ztuuu,' '0102303-394,' 'XIDIDIII"' loads others!"

lol

"I admire the guys skills at putting together groovrs, but his music is often kinda alienating and gray"

You know how people say that when you're about to freeze to death you start feeling all warm? A lot of Villalobos tracks have that effect on me.

to be fair you can really fall into those grooves after the first eight hours of dancing

it doesn't bang necessarilly but

LOWRIDE

Dancing to Autechre is easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiLK7S2fXqQ

Surgeon could probably pull off "second bad vibel" in a set

^would listen so hard

dance too, lol

yeah iirc he (surgeon) actually has used autechre in several online mixes

you could say autechre has been a "tool" of the "surgeon"

Surgeon could probably pull off "second bad vibel" in a set

― brimstead, Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:23 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Totally.

Clipper is a total banger, too.