I... Agree with deej
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
"don't tell em" is inferior to "show me" simply because the robin s sample is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that said, i like "don't tell em," it's a nice jam and considering all of the possible templates of songs that could've facilitated jeremih actually getting his album out i think this one is pretty digestible
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
The sample is kinda indefensible.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link
you know this song didn't make an impression on me the first time and i never listened to it again but it sounds kinda dope to me now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhArLwBO5VQ
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
the sample is genius, you're insane
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
I guess it shouldn't be too surprising that Jeremih's first big single with Diddy as his manager would feature an interpolation of a way-overplayed megahit. But when he partnered with Diddy I hoped he was getting Dirty Money Diddy, not late-'90s lazy-sample Diddy
― Evan R, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
my favorites
1. paranoid2. 2 on (my dream version of this is drake switched out for schoolboy q but w/ his verse cut down to 16 bars, alas...)3. 24 hours4. left right (this sounds incredible and punishing on really good speakers)5. show me
i don't dislike any of these songs and i think this is one of the best runs for contemporary rap/r&b in a while (not for one producer, though that also, but just for the genre in general). some of them are more forgettable than others obviously but i really love this sound.
i've even come around on some of the ones i didn't particularly like at first... "na na" has really grown on me
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
"vato" is an obvious rip off of "my nigga" but i really liked that song, was kinda disappointed when they immediately dropped it
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Wait, my bad. I meant the indefensible Snap lyrics on the Jeremih track.
Although I'm sure some ILX0rs are into them as well.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link
I'm fine with sonically pillaging Eurobeat, but lyrically? I dunno...
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah the "rhythm is a dancer" interpolation is whatever... i really like singing it but it's more functional than anything. i think they get away with it but barely.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
agree w/ Miko it's just corny
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
an attempt to replicate 'show me'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
Huh, hadn't heard Down on Me. That song is very very good. Kinda the next step of dynamic switching, going into this overdriven frenzy. Nice new trick. Might vote for it, but then again, left right, paranoid, etc.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
4. left right (this sounds incredible and punishing on really good speakers)
YES! The first time I played it out in a club both me and my dj partner were like o________o
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah i thought it was a total dud of a track until i went to hear the album at a listening thing at def jam on their $90 million soundsystem and was blown away
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
I think I'm the only person who's not really all that impressed with "2 On", production-wise. It's Tinashe and Q who elevate the track IMO.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Ugh, I hate that Q verse. It's like listening to a guy sitting on a toilet barking orders to his girlfriend to make him a sandwich. Really pushy and gross
― Evan R, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
(great song otherwise though obviously)
― Evan R, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
The transition from I Just Wanna Party to Left, Right on My Krazy Life is epic.
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
schoolboy q shouldn't be rapping on R&B songs
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
between the beat & tinashe's vocals there's a real smoothness to "2 on" and i could see maybe how schoolboy q's gruffness was seen as a nice counterpoint to that but i just find it jarring and garish and think drake approaches the song much better
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
ugh drake singing the "2 on" chorus is nails on chalkboard shit
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
I haven't heard the Drake version, but I'm cool with Q on it (it's my second favorite on this list) and I can't see how Drake Draking all over it would improve it.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:34 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these are some of his best songs although really he shouldn't be rapping on anything these days
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
Drake getting on "2 on" is 2 on the nose, if you get what i'm saying
the mustard beat is the best part of that record, by far.
Like, it's not a hit without it—tinashe is a corny ryan hemsworth collaborating xerox of a xerox of aaliyah
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
so really, no one else is repping for the T-Pain record tho?
t-pain song is pretty great still middle of the pack for me tho
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
apparently i'm killfiled by deej but i am going on record as up/down as one of my faves of the year.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
The obvious answer that somehow no one is mentioned is T-Pain's "Up Down" which is >>>>>> everything in this list
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 09:37 (Yesterday) Permalink
such a grating awful song
― nova, Thursday, 31 July 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
I almost wish bars/clubs I go to'd just play old-school LA rap at this point, Mustard tracks sound better on blown-out speakers like everything but still can't mask the weak aspects of it
gotta be a better club-oriented producer who can take dude's spot
― nova, Thursday, 31 July 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link
Up Down is excellent, especially the remix (BOOSIE B), but the bass on Left, Right is too earth-shattering for me to not vote for it.
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
"Up Down" is great, yeah, love the slightly spectral melody in the background, there's a real stateliness to the whole thing.
― Tim F, Thursday, 31 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
I don't actually want bars to only play LA rap I've just been on that kick lately, just Iamsu's production crew is more my speed, mostly cuz their drums aren't weaksauce
― nova, Saturday, 2 August 2014 06:02 (nine years ago) link
Mustard's drums are soooooooooooo not weaksauce, he just uses them sparingly.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 August 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link
they're super-mild Taco Bell sauce no lie
― nova, Saturday, 2 August 2014 07:47 (nine years ago) link
i think there's definitely a case to be made that P-Lo is a better producer than Mustard, or would be if he got the same kind of opportunities. Yo Gotti's "Act Right" >>>>> pretty much every Mustard production.
― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link
Loads of these are great but Left Right is the only one that feels as if it's pulling you up and hitting you in the face. On a different day I might have voted for 2 On but that's trumped by the irrepressible greatness of the DJ Q remix.
In general I like Mustard more than the vocalists he works with, I don't want or need to hear 2 Chainz or Ty Dolla Sign on anything these days but I lap these up when he's working with people I actually give a shit about.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link
yeah he's not working with a whole lot of world class talent, but the chemistry he has with YG and some other people definitely elevates what they're doing together.
i know this statement won't fly on ILM very well but imo Mustard R&B mostly sucks the same way Lil Jon R&B mostly sucked. melodic vocals mostly don't work on his stuff, and even when they do it's often Ty Dolla Sign being a scumbag or something else that makes the song insufferable to me.
― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:03 (11 hours ago) Permalink
+ "Only That Real" and "What You 'Bout" though that one he produced with Su
It's a more vibey laid-back sound but a lot less skeletal than Mustard's beats imo and I dig that
sidenote I was surprised at how dope Sage the Gemini's verse on "Only That Real" is since I don't fuck with his music, even though he's got the same producers contributing and all that
― nova, Saturday, 2 August 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
The "Ty Dolla sign is a scumbag" thing feels way over the top to me
He's also a more talented artist than mustard but that's here nor there
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
well listen i don't know his life, but his lyrics have a pretty consistently scumbaggy POV.
― some dude, Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
I guess? I feel like he's no worse than like trey songz or someone. Maybe it's just that he's jokier or seems more self aware?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
control+ F spotify not found
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
White girls love to do cokeBlack girls always want to smokeAsian hoes like to drink sakeMy Spanish bitch want to pop a molly
And she be like "Ay que rico" when I'm going real deep thoughYou can give me all of them besos, just stay low, do what I say soFuck me now, oh shit, excuse my French but I got a bad bitchAnd she ain't from France but she french kiss dickAnd she ain't got plans cause they get dismissed
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 August 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
is "Paranoid" supposed to be that scumbag-y? I don't really think of it that way, if anything B.o.B's verse is moreso
but yeah "My Cabana" quoted, definitely see it there, shame too cuz I dig the whole atmosphere on that track
― nova, Sunday, 3 August 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
my cabana is forever moving because of the blunted sadness and deep concern with how many hos CAN fit in his cabana; that last "hos...." does a lot of heavy lifting
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 August 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
you guys cannot play dumb about Ty. this is like the plausible deniability shit where people tried to act like Odd Future didn't use gay slurs more than other rappers when there were, like, statistics to the contrary. Trey Songz might have a couple extra macho songs where he says some rough stuff about women but with Ty Dolla Sign it's like every single line of every single song.
― some dude, Sunday, 3 August 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
idk i just see dudes go on about his supposedly creepy and horrible lyrics way more than women, not that i see people apologizing for stuff like that my cabana verse or anything but it just seems like weirdly arbitrary distinction
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link
initially it felt like mustard trying too hard to catch up to nic nac but it's just a great song
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 April 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
hate to be a party pooper (*raises eyebrows, winks*) but "eat the booty like groceries" is nonsensical
― k3vin k., Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
you don't eat groceries. you buy groceries
― k3vin k., Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
Wow pedants are the worst
― 龜, Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
i dunno bro, i both buy and eat groceries
not booty though, no thanks
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 4 April 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
fine go ahead and don't eat your groceries seems pretty wasteful tho
― j., Saturday, 4 April 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
seems a waste to buy booty and not eat it too
― hot doug stamper (||||||||), Saturday, 4 April 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
smh at "that's fax no printer" every time
― r|t|c, Saturday, 4 April 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
I made that my tinder bio
― 龜, Saturday, 4 April 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
📠🚫📄
― 龜, Saturday, 4 April 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
i'm sure i'm missing some but i tried to pull together all the mustard singles from rack city forward https://open.spotify.com/user/nminichino/playlist/4LJtvEIPgYSyOARnrCmauc
rn i'm more interested in fake mustard but that may be down to how much i have grown to love "somebody" (may as well replace "natalielarose" with "mustardonthebeat" at the beginning)
― this chump registered with his real name → (Nick Minichino), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link
one great detail on "post to be" is when and how often jhené aiko insists "i'll make him do it"
― this chump registered with his real name → (Nick Minichino), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
may as well replace "natalielarose" with "mustardonthebeat" at the beginning
this is the best part of that song
― dyl, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link
in the club like wuhh going duh like wuhh etc is the best part imo, but that bit's good too
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:02 (eight years ago) link
"flex" is so fake mustard it's sick
― 龜, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link
it sounds like dancehall to me
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigyqAiSiSQ
now u mention, does this get usa play idk
couple weeks ago the model st3fani4 f3rr4ri0 (her named portfolio was sticking out of her bag ok #dontjudgeme) walked onto my train literally just as it came on in my headphones... i'm slowly recovering
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
nah, good track tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
i think american internet just discovered it like a month ago
missed when this came out but this is my fav mustard track.....ever?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Less_(Ashanti_song)
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 July 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link