The transition from I Just Wanna Party to Left, Right on My Krazy Life is epic.
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
schoolboy q shouldn't be rapping on R&B songs
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
between the beat & tinashe's vocals there's a real smoothness to "2 on" and i could see maybe how schoolboy q's gruffness was seen as a nice counterpoint to that but i just find it jarring and garish and think drake approaches the song much better
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
ugh drake singing the "2 on" chorus is nails on chalkboard shit
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
I haven't heard the Drake version, but I'm cool with Q on it (it's my second favorite on this list) and I can't see how Drake Draking all over it would improve it.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:34 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these are some of his best songs although really he shouldn't be rapping on anything these days
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
Drake getting on "2 on" is 2 on the nose, if you get what i'm saying
the mustard beat is the best part of that record, by far.
Like, it's not a hit without it—tinashe is a corny ryan hemsworth collaborating xerox of a xerox of aaliyah
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
so really, no one else is repping for the T-Pain record tho?
t-pain song is pretty great still middle of the pack for me tho
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
apparently i'm killfiled by deej but i am going on record as up/down as one of my faves of the year.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
The obvious answer that somehow no one is mentioned is T-Pain's "Up Down" which is >>>>>> everything in this list
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 09:37 (Yesterday) Permalink
such a grating awful song
― nova, Thursday, 31 July 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
I almost wish bars/clubs I go to'd just play old-school LA rap at this point, Mustard tracks sound better on blown-out speakers like everything but still can't mask the weak aspects of it
gotta be a better club-oriented producer who can take dude's spot
― nova, Thursday, 31 July 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link
Up Down is excellent, especially the remix (BOOSIE B), but the bass on Left, Right is too earth-shattering for me to not vote for it.
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
"Up Down" is great, yeah, love the slightly spectral melody in the background, there's a real stateliness to the whole thing.
― Tim F, Thursday, 31 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
I don't actually want bars to only play LA rap I've just been on that kick lately, just Iamsu's production crew is more my speed, mostly cuz their drums aren't weaksauce
― nova, Saturday, 2 August 2014 06:02 (nine years ago) link
Mustard's drums are soooooooooooo not weaksauce, he just uses them sparingly.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 August 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link
they're super-mild Taco Bell sauce no lie
― nova, Saturday, 2 August 2014 07:47 (nine years ago) link
i think there's definitely a case to be made that P-Lo is a better producer than Mustard, or would be if he got the same kind of opportunities. Yo Gotti's "Act Right" >>>>> pretty much every Mustard production.
― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link
Loads of these are great but Left Right is the only one that feels as if it's pulling you up and hitting you in the face. On a different day I might have voted for 2 On but that's trumped by the irrepressible greatness of the DJ Q remix.
In general I like Mustard more than the vocalists he works with, I don't want or need to hear 2 Chainz or Ty Dolla Sign on anything these days but I lap these up when he's working with people I actually give a shit about.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link
yeah he's not working with a whole lot of world class talent, but the chemistry he has with YG and some other people definitely elevates what they're doing together.
i know this statement won't fly on ILM very well but imo Mustard R&B mostly sucks the same way Lil Jon R&B mostly sucked. melodic vocals mostly don't work on his stuff, and even when they do it's often Ty Dolla Sign being a scumbag or something else that makes the song insufferable to me.
― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:03 (11 hours ago) Permalink
+ "Only That Real" and "What You 'Bout" though that one he produced with Su
It's a more vibey laid-back sound but a lot less skeletal than Mustard's beats imo and I dig that
sidenote I was surprised at how dope Sage the Gemini's verse on "Only That Real" is since I don't fuck with his music, even though he's got the same producers contributing and all that
― nova, Saturday, 2 August 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
The "Ty Dolla sign is a scumbag" thing feels way over the top to me
He's also a more talented artist than mustard but that's here nor there
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
well listen i don't know his life, but his lyrics have a pretty consistently scumbaggy POV.
― some dude, Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
I guess? I feel like he's no worse than like trey songz or someone. Maybe it's just that he's jokier or seems more self aware?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
control+ F spotify not found
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
White girls love to do cokeBlack girls always want to smokeAsian hoes like to drink sakeMy Spanish bitch want to pop a molly
And she be like "Ay que rico" when I'm going real deep thoughYou can give me all of them besos, just stay low, do what I say soFuck me now, oh shit, excuse my French but I got a bad bitchAnd she ain't from France but she french kiss dickAnd she ain't got plans cause they get dismissed
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 August 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
is "Paranoid" supposed to be that scumbag-y? I don't really think of it that way, if anything B.o.B's verse is moreso
but yeah "My Cabana" quoted, definitely see it there, shame too cuz I dig the whole atmosphere on that track
― nova, Sunday, 3 August 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
my cabana is forever moving because of the blunted sadness and deep concern with how many hos CAN fit in his cabana; that last "hos...." does a lot of heavy lifting
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 August 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
you guys cannot play dumb about Ty. this is like the plausible deniability shit where people tried to act like Odd Future didn't use gay slurs more than other rappers when there were, like, statistics to the contrary. Trey Songz might have a couple extra macho songs where he says some rough stuff about women but with Ty Dolla Sign it's like every single line of every single song.
― some dude, Sunday, 3 August 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
idk i just see dudes go on about his supposedly creepy and horrible lyrics way more than women, not that i see people apologizing for stuff like that my cabana verse or anything but it just seems like weirdly arbitrary distinction
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link
― nova, Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:21 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the 'ignorant' lyrics are the point tho
this is ridiculous
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
cannot believe this misogynist rapper asking for threesomes and buying women red bottoms, truly we have broken new ground here
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:03 (Yesterday) Permalink
ok but they're still pretty mean-spirited/flippant?
― nova, Monday, 4 August 2014 03:43 (nine years ago) link
ty's thing is kinda being a scumbag, even if he is frequently charming
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 August 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link
i mean "or nah"... he wrote "loyal" ... he has a track record
the first beach house EP has IRL voicemails of him being a fucking dickhead to women
but i also think it's an arbitrary distinction to single him out. the opposing sides of this argument also have opposing opinions on how talented he is.
when i interviewed him asked him if women ever tell him that he comes off like an asshole on his songs and he gave me a "pshhhhh" answer like i asked him the stupidest question in the world
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 August 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
he just ain't a beta bitch like that Aubrey Graham lame amirite
nah i'm kidding. I do find both of their lyrical approaches problematic though, just in different ways
― nova, Monday, 4 August 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link
mostly I just don't think Drake has that much insight into things & it's mainly like ok dude, you're wallowing in your relationship troubles, we been there but i'm honestly not that interested & after a point it's just self-indulgent
― nova, Monday, 4 August 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
ty has no pretense really. he's openly the asshole bad boy that girls like. drake is also the asshole bad boy but he wraps it up in tenderness & introspection that i think he thinks is harder to see thru than it really is. you could argue that the latter is more manipulative and perhaps maybe worse.
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 August 2014 04:15 (nine years ago) link
I fuck mad bitches but I feel very conflicted about it
lol yeah though I see what you're saying
― nova, Monday, 4 August 2014 04:37 (nine years ago) link
control+ F spotify not found― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Who do you love:http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/6XvZR19oAdYtPX2dPPsxjn
― Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Monday, 4 August 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link
_control+ F spotify not found― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink_Who do you love:http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/6XvZR19oAdYtPX2dPPsxjn --Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie)
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink_
Who do you love:http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/6XvZR19oAdYtPX2dPPsxjn --Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie)
or turn on the radio for 20 minutes
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 4 August 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link
or nah
― Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Monday, 4 August 2014 04:58 (nine years ago) link
hee hee
― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 4 August 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC, Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:34 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah otm. i LOVE mustard beats and am so thankful for him speeding up the tempo but aside from yg, he works with a whole bunch of people i don't care about that much - kinda feel that the current mustardwave is a missed opportunity in terms of who i'd love to be getting on his beats. this list should be 100% amazing, i shouldn't have to be cherrypicking dj mustard radio hits when he's at his peak! thank christ for the yg album for giving me enough of an extended fix. i actually feel like i'd like to hear more mustard r&b productions, obv not anyone with a big voice but natasha mosley sounds awesome on the yg album ("459" is the secret best track on it!) and he saved tinashe (for now) from corny hemsworth mediocrity. at the risk of being very much in character, he's so obviously the producer CIARA has been waiting for.
anyway
1. 2 on2. left right3. up down4. vato
sorta sad that those are the only ones i 100% love. "who do you love" is aight but pretty mid-to-low table on the yg album. never really clicked with "paranoid", mostly because the lyrics just make me want to slap ty. "24 hours" beat is awesome but outstrips the vocalists embarrassingly. "no mediocre" is so frustrating, incredible beat and catchy hook but tip is so gross on it! "don't tell em" is uncharacteristically clumsy with the corny sample and v ill-fitting for jeremih (though i'd rather he does this than work with shlohmo ever again). "or nah" is so horrendously misogynist that i am happy calling anyone who reps for the og over the lil mo version a misogynist as well. i mean the vocals and message are so foregrounded that how can you even tune them out. fuck ty dolla $ign for that, seriously. similarly, i'm not hurrying to check out a song called "main chick" featuring chris brown.
what other examples of fake-mustard are there besides "loyal" and "fancy"? (it's sad that both are better than half this list.) (i refer to the female remixes of "loyal" obviously, and so should you)
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 August 2014 08:01 (nine years ago) link
Agree with almost everything here and above re: the grossness and mediocrity of said vocalists. Typical response from my female friends on hearing a Mustard-produced track - "wow, this guy's really charming."
― MikoMcha, Friday, 8 August 2014 09:20 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, August 8, 2014 8:01 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh and "LEMONADE" OBVIOUSLY HOW COULD I FORGET
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 August 2014 09:32 (nine years ago) link
a list including the fake-mustards would probably go
1. 2 on2. left right3. lemonade4. loyal (k. michelle version)5. fancy6. up down7. vato
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 August 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link
also i guess we should anticipate the mustard album out next week here? vocalist roster is neither surprising nor particularly exciting, and where is "vato"????
1. Low Low Feat. Nipsey Hussle, TeeCee and RJ2. Ghetto Tales Feat. Jay 305 and TeeCee3. Throw Your Hood Up Feat. Dom Kennedy, Royce and RJ4. No Reason Feat. YG, Jeezy, Nipsey Hussle, and RJ5. Giuseppee Feat. 2 Chainz and Jeezy and Yo Gotti6. Face Down Feat. Lil Wayne, Big Sean, YG and Boosie Badazz7. Down On Me Feat. 2Chainz and Ty Dolla $ign8. Can’t Tell Me Shit Feat. IamSu! and AKAFrank9. Tinashe Checks In (Interlude)10. 4 Digits Feat. Fabolous and Eric Bellinger11. Ty Dolla $ign Checks In (Interlude)12. Deep Feat. Rick Ross, Wiz Khalifa, TeeFlii
― lex pretend, Friday, 8 August 2014 09:40 (nine years ago) link
missed when this came out but this is my fav mustard track.....ever?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Less_(Ashanti_song)
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 21 July 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link