i realize i brought it up in the first place, but not gonna argue politics on a fleetwood mac thread.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
i'd rather argue about the unfair treatment of nicks in these poll results.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
there's no way the results of the poll wouldn't be fair unless each person got 6 votes
― da croupier, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
would be fair i mean
I'm sure they all got their lawyers and managers on it right away.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
lol
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
This doc is awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQOjptfZLJ4
Fave moment is probably around 23:40, where Lindsey basically says my way or the highway, either release a double album or I will take all my songs and release my own album.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Second fave around 4:50, when Stevie arrives at the studio with a dreamcatcher.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
My favorite bit is when Buckingham questions Mick and when the nine-foot-tall drummer glowers and rises to his full height you suddenly realize that Buckingham may be the genius but it's Mick Fleetwood's fucking band.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
I like when they interview 2 of the 3 managers about the double album.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
man Fleetwood realizes what even in 2003 Buck doesn't: Buck can realize solo albums that sell low five figures because he's in Fleetwood fucking Mac.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
Tell it to Mick c. "Tango" when he was living on a steady diet of coke in a camper van parked on Lindsey's property.
xpost Eh, if that fame really ported over then Bucky would be playing to thousands of people in clubs rather than hundreds.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
yeah but Mick's leadership has never been questioned, and it's more certain now that he's off drugs.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Don't Stop is great, even if you hate it. Some things are beyond good and evil.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I dunno. I think Mick abdicated his leadership position, or at least Bucky took over in something akin to a bloodless coup. While Mick is awesome, it's been Bucky since Tusk - his indulgences, his compromises, his cooperation. Bucky was the only one, besides Christine (I think), who did not have a serious substance abuse problem, and I think Mick understands the band hangs on him now. Especially ever since the "Behind the Mask" debacle.
(Is Behind the Mask a debacle? I've never heard it.)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
You can be essential without being a leader.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
I dunno if the band has a leader so much as a person shouting loudest at the moment
― da croupier, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
The McVie songs on BTM, the only ones I've heard, stick to her tried-and-true and don't sound particularly tacky but no special touches either. I do remember "Save Me" getting airplay.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
i doubt anyone's said "guys fleetwood mac needs to do something" more than mick, the other 3 show their power by saying they DON'T need to do something.
and then there's john.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
and then there's john
...who has a ton to do with what makes them sound so great. i've always heard fm as very much mick and john's band; the name of the band is no accident. without 'em, the others would just be three very good singer-songwriters, all of whom benefited as much if not more from the rhythm section as the rhythm section benefited from them.
― PORPOISE AND ME (fact checking cuz), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
I've always thought the distance between the B/N album and the s/t/ FM record to be not so great. I love the Mick and John rhythm section, but not least because they adapted so well to Bucky's vision. And probably got even better because of it.
i doubt anyone's said "guys fleetwood mac needs to do something" more than mick
No doubt, says the only member of FM who spent a considerable time bankrupt. Either way, this was a good read: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/30/business/talking-money-with-mick-fleetwood-there-s-no-stopping-tomorrow.html
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
sister stopped by this place on her money, said it was pretty surreal - lots of paintings of himself
http://www.fleetwoodsonfrontst.com/
― da croupier, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
on her honeymoon, i meant to write. gah