true lies meets thomas crown meets national treasure meets the da vinci code meets tinker tailor soldier spy
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
L-R: Johnny Depp, Ewan MacGregor
http://images.wikia.com/lossimpson/es/images/b/b9/Raging_Abe_Simpson_and_His_Grumbling_Grandson_in_The_Curse_of_the_Flying_Hellfish.jpg
― brimming with misplaced confidence (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
His good looks
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2013/11/johnny-depp-begins-filming-mortdecai-in-london.jpg
Gwyneth is playing the impossibly leggy wife
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
i thought 'public enemies' was good, albeit mostly for other reasons. but i guess depp was good as dillinger. he's a lot closer to nic cage than depp stans would like to imagine.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
even accepting that the silent majority apparently liked alice in wonderland, i dunno how after this run
Frank Tupelo/Alexander Pierce in The TouristPaul Kemp in The Rum DiaryBarnabas Collins in Dark ShadowsTonto in The Lone RangerDr. Will Caster in Transcendence
depp still has stans
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Wow. To think that there was a time I'd watch anything he was in largely because he was in it.
― Arby's New Beefgasm With Cheese! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
other non-cameo roles in the pipeline are The Big Bad Wolf in Into The Woods, Whitey Bulger in Black Mass and the Mad Hatter in Alice 2: The Search For Johnny's Gold
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
i remember 'corpse bride' fondly, that's about it.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
ugggghhh, I had no idea there is going to be an Alice 2.
― Both Jandek and Authenty (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
I have only seen five of these; his Sweeney Todd was fine.
Dark Shadows is an utterly wrongheaded, gratuitous thing, but he is amusing in it.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
http://www.scandalist.com/files/2009/03/metalyears.jpg
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
He turns up in too many documentaries. As I mentioned on some other thread, he's like the default Hollywood guy if it has anything to do with the '60s (past Peter Coyote, that is, who was at least there).
― clemenza, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
his cool cachet is starting to slip
― nauru, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
wait a sec...i just realized johnny's hat is ripped
there was a whole media hubbub about him wearing a torn hat at vmas and red carpets and whatnot recently...and no one realized this has been his steez since youth.
philistines
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
The Mortdecai books are really great and fun, and now I am pretty depressed that they will be made into a terrible movie with Johnny Depp. (fwiw, he does not have a wife in the books, either, just a butler.)
― Tony Last, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
Mortdecai is not supposed to be attractive either, he's basically a gone-to-seed drunk.
― Tony Last, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
rango over sweeney todd. dark shadows would've been such a gimme for depp and burton once upon a time. sweeney todd was such an unlikely success i almost wonder if a burton/depp version of into the woods might be preferable. the marshall one will be mediocre but passable, the burton one would've either been decent or a fiasco. maybe a 30% shot at a B isn't worth risking a C+, i don't know. wasn't once upon a time in mexico post-pirates?
― balls, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
yep, by a few months. damn wikipedia clowns.
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
jeezus christ how depressing.
yup. not a single thing worth seeing really (I have seen a few)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
thought his singing was horrible in Sweeney Todd. out of the ones i've seen here i don't think i'd thumbs up any of them
― why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link
what was his last legit great performance, pre-Pirates? Maybe being harsh, and I haven't seen them all, but I feel like it's Dead Man or Donnie Brasco...
pre-capt jack filmography:1984 A Nightmare on Elm Street Glen Lantz Film debut1985 Private Resort Jack Marshall 1986 Slow Burn Donnie Fleischer TV film1986 Platoon Lerner 1990 Cry-Baby Wade "Cry-Baby" Walker 1990 Edward Scissorhands Edward Scissorhands 1991 Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare Glen Lantz Cameo1993 Benny & Joon Sam 1993 What's Eating Gilbert Grape Gilbert Grape 1993 Arizona Dream Axel Blackmar 1994 Ed Wood Edward D. Wood, Jr. 1995 Don Juan DeMarco Don Juan/John R. DeMarco 1995 Dead Man William Blake 1995 Nick of Time Gene Watson 1996 Cannes Man Himself Cameo1997 Donnie Brasco Donnie Brasco/Joseph D. Pistone 1997 The Brave Raphael 1998 Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Raoul Duke 1998 L.A. Without a Map Himself/William Blake Cameo1999 The Ninth Gate Dean Corso 1999 Sleepy Hollow Ichabod Crane 1999 The Astronaut's Wife Spencer Armacost 2000 Chocolat Roux 2000 Before Night Falls Lt. Victor, Bon Bon 2001 Blow George Jung 2001 The Man Who Cried Cesar 2001 From Hell Frederick Abberline 2003 Once Upon a Time in Mexico
― Brio2, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
Ed Wood
― brimming with misplaced confidence (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
Fear and Loathing is fairly stupid but he's good in it. Ditto Sleepy Hollow. After that gtfo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
i'm sure there were earlier instances missed in my youth (don juan demarco seems likely) but chocolat was the first time i had the sense that depp seemed unnecessarily satisfied with himself onscreen
― da croupier, Thursday, 31 July 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
The Libertine is a decent film
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 31 July 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
i really like Wilmot's poetry which has made me wary of watching the movie even tho i kinda want to
― why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Thursday, 31 July 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
It's imperfect but I appreciated how wet/grimy they made Restoration England.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 July 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
I like Depp's opening monologue in it
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 1 August 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
same here--was annoyed that a collection of his poems I have has a non-removable fake sticker on the cover that's all 'NOW A MAJOR FILM STARRING JONNY DEPP'
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 1 August 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link
Some great looking stuff in that film, he looks oddly amazing when his health is failing and face showing blood.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 1 August 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link
the ladies are better prepared to answer whether the Depp Star is hot when he uses accents. In his own way he's created a male niche kind of Meryl Streep career.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 August 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
i liked his VO in the Hunter doc.
― piscesx, Friday, 1 August 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
which is to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOHCjGhy6vY
― piscesx, Friday, 1 August 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link
Dark Shadows was fun i guess
― some dude, Friday, 1 August 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
See, I liked "The Lone Ranger" quite a lot, but was it too bound into American history for the US to like it?
― Mark G, Friday, 1 August 2014 08:45 (nine years ago) link
The Lone Ranger was considerably better than I expected. Still not actually good.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 1 August 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link
i got a text from my son after he saw it that said "The Lone Racist" and that's alls i know
― why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Friday, 1 August 2014 10:27 (nine years ago) link
lol
― love is how's life tonight (how's life), Friday, 1 August 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link
Was he uncredited in 21 Jump St? Cos that's a lot better than anything here I've seen.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 1 August 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link
(No cameos)
― da croupier, Friday, 1 August 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link
Have seen zero of these, might watch the Gilliam one day, will never see any of the others
― boney tassel (sic), Friday, 1 August 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
You should see Rango, it's pretty great! Sweeney Todd wasn't bad either; even though Burton has made lots of awful films in the 00s, this story was obviously tailor-made for his style. Though it was painfully obvious Depp can't sing... I don't understand the recent trend of having non-singing actors try to sing in musicals (see also: Moulin Rouge, Dancer in the Dark, etc)... If you want to have famous actors in your musical, what was wrong with the old technique of having the actor do the spoken lines and hiring a proper singer to dub his/her singing parts?
― Tuomas, Monday, 4 August 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link
Recent? Check out "Lost Horizon" (1973)
― Mark G, Monday, 4 August 2014 08:22 (nine years ago) link
Actually, I think I was more meaning "At long last love" but hey.
― Mark G, Monday, 4 August 2014 08:24 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah, I didn't mean it hasn't done before, but in the recent years it seems to be more like the rule than the exception.
― Tuomas, Monday, 4 August 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link
Think the success of Mama Mia especially suggested that cinema audiences are less interested in 'good singing' than they are in celebs 'having a go' - even 'bad singing' expresses personality etc in a way that miming never can, and occasionally there's the odd celeb who actually turns out to be a decent singer (eg Meryl Streep).
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 4 August 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link
I haven't seen Sweeny Todd but Burton did make a big thing of saying he wanted everyone's voice to sound recognizably the voice of the actors. I'm sure he said he wasn't really into musicals and didn't like it when characters could sing in a voice that seemed alien.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 August 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
Given we have been putting up with actors who can't act for years, there's no reason we shouldn't put up with singers who can't sing.
BTW, my theory for the Depputizer's recent streak is that he's finally starting to look a little old, and therefore prefers to hide behind pancake make-up and dark glasses. I think it was his bit in that Ricky Gervais thing I saw on a plane where I thought, wow, he does look his age, it's just been ages since I've seen his face.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 August 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link
(btw I saw Malkovich play Wilmot in The Libertine onstage a few years before the movie, and the opening monologue especially was amazing.)
― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Monday, 4 August 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
I love Ed Wood but he's my least favorite part about it by a long shot.
― Walter Galt, Monday, 4 August 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
2011 was a big year for "i can't say i know anyone who repped for that" movies - Transformers 3, Hangover II, The Twilight Movie With The Wedding, Pirates 4, Cars 2 and Sherlock Holmes 2 all in the top 10.
(i took fast five, mission impossible 4 and thor out as movies i've heard someone rep for)
― da croupier, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
(oh and The Last Harry Potter)
you ppl know a lotta pantswetting reppers
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 August 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
yes, we have friends
― da croupier, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Better:
http://200movies1woman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-pirates-band-of-misfits02.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Can't remember if it's better:
http://theadventuresoftransman.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/1734_mm4998rfue.jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
We just watched Muppet Treasure Island the other night. It was okay, couple of really good gags (mostly in the songs), but not better than the first Pirates flick. Tim Curry's mugging is pitched well for the kid-level audience; I'd have accepted him in a re-cast Pirates sequel. As a kid I remember liking Shipwrecked okay, can't remember anything about it though.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
i'm ok w/ that movie now but man few movies have disappointed me as much as yellowbeard did at the time
― balls, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
enjoyed the first one alright, depp and rush were fun in it, there were some fun action set pieces, it felt old fashioned in a welcome way, and it was far far far better than any could've expected from a gore verbinski adaptation of an amusement park ride. after that...they became ridiculously tedious.
― balls, Monday, August 4, 2014 11:42 AM (1 hour ago)
sums it up for me. did enjoy the first one a hell of a lot, even on the 2nd pass.
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Monday, 4 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
when I rented the first one eleven years I couldn't believe this was a two-hours-plus movie. I couldn't recommend it because it was too damn long and the material sucked and it was obv padded.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 August 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Pirates 2 overall really isn't that good, but that whole sequence with the water-wheel really is the best sequence of the whole series. I might also be nostalgic for the days when movie executives thought a trilogy was as far as a franchise could go.
― Frederik B, Monday, 4 August 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
the problem with a lot of trilogies today is that they really should be one movie (cf. the hobbit series) and there are a lot of "trilogies" that end up being four movies with the last two padded out, like "why make 900 million domestic when you can make 1.2 billion" i guess is their way of thinking.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 4 August 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Even though he keeps making them, Johnny Depp is a little bit confused by the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels. "They had to invent a trilogy out of nowhere," he candidly tells EW about the last two movies. "It was plot driven and complicated. I remember talking to (director Gore Verbinski) at certain points during production of 2 or 3, and saying: 'I don't really know what this means.' He said, 'Neither do I, but let's just shoot it.' This guy is this guy's dad, and this guy was in love with this broad. It was like, 'What?'" If those movies eventually made sense in postproduction, Depp admits that he wouldn't know it: "I did see the first one. I have not seen the second one or the third one."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 4 August 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah, I remember coming out of the movie theater having liked Pirates 2 and I'm almost certain it's exclusively because of that water-wheel fight sequence, which is possibly the best action sequence I've seen in a movie in the 00s.
xxp
― silverfish, Monday, 4 August 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
I'm amazed anyone found the first film fun (only one I've seen), I thought it was unusually bland even for an action blockbuster. The idea of a rip-roaring ghost pirate adventure sounds spectacular but it was a total slog. The fork in the rolling eyeball and "you can trust a liar to be dishonest" line were the only brief points of interest for me. I'd love a good fun pirate movie but I've never heard of one yet.
I once saw a quote from Keira Knightly saying she and her co-stars thought the film was "shit" and that they were doing it purely for money. I wonder if it was real.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 August 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
i think for fun pirate movies you've generally got to go back to the '40s iirc. the most recent awesome seafaring film is 'master and commander' obv.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
still so pissed that that didn't turn into a series w/ tons of sequels, etc.
― balls, Monday, 4 August 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
potc makes me think of beetlejuice where you have this one crazy performance that dominates the film but the main character doesn't actually appear until half an hour in & gets relatively little screen time. The difference is that in beetlejuice there are a whole load of other fun performances and stuff to keep you entertained, potc is like a beetlejuice where every other part of the movie is dogshit
― pictures of people who seem to have figured out how to use dropbox (wins), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
dissing johnny deep via comparison to a burton-winona movie: that's how it's done
― balls, Monday, 4 August 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
u gotta compare like with like
― pictures of people who seem to have figured out how to use dropbox (wins), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
I saw pirates at the cinema (it was the "surprise movie" at a festival) and it was better than I expected but I tried to watch it again when it was on tv and the tedious bullshit you have to put up with for 30-minute stretches while you wait for another bit of depp/rush schtick was like fuck this
― pictures of people who seem to have figured out how to use dropbox (wins), Monday, 4 August 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
I wrote a piece eons ago about big-budget porn, hinging on the porn "Pirates" (not a parody), and basically pointed out how many of the "PotC" beats (har) it more or less got down, from the FX to the script to the acting, all on a pittance (relative to H'Wood though huge for porn). It was less about the ambition of the adult industry and more about the laziness of Hollywood.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 August 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
The best pirate movie of the recent years is Treasure Planet, which didn't really deserve to be a flop.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 09:17 (nine years ago) link
The Aardman / Defoe Pirates is magnificent, I'd see it 2 or 3 more times at the cinema just to look at different parts of the screen each time and look for characters and gags crammed in, if I could
I once listened to the Knightley / Miles Out Of This Life commentary on the first PotC and subsequently imagine Davenport could have that opinion, but doubt Knightley has the self-awareness
― boney tassel (sic), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
I should have my kids see that. I think I saw an early screening of it eons ago, and don't recall it being terrible. Do kids read "Treasure Island" anymore?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
xpost
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/Captain_Blood.jpeg/220px-Captain_Blood.jpeg
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
Cool, I see Rathbone is in Captain Blood too.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
Used to love The Crimson Pirate when I was a kid.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
My fave Pirate movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZyWlcPt2IY
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
caught most of sleepy hollow last night, the last burton i have real fondness for. seems unfairly slighted, i've seen it grouped in passing w/ truly terrible burton like wonka or alice. i'm not sure if it's due to the somewhat poor script or it being the moment ppl realized christina ricci isn't much of an actress, but it looks fantastic, there's a fun embrace of darkness and gore, and there are enough moments that feel like it was made by the same guy who did pee wee's big adventure and beetlejuice. depp is alright in it, he lapses into cute mannerisms but there's some actual acting as well. i'd take it over anything listed above as well as pirates.
― balls, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
only two with no votes!
― da croupier, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
The best film probably won, though I guess you can't really credit it's greatness to Depp. (He is good in it, though.)
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 06:36 (nine years ago) link
caught most of sleepy hollow last night, the last burton i have real fondness for. seems unfairly slighted, ...but it looks fantastic, there's a fun embrace of darkness and gore, and there are enough moments that feel like it was made by the same guy who did pee wee's big adventure and beetlejuice. ...i'd take it over anything listed above as well as pirates.
― balls, Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:13 AM (12 hours ago)
otm. easily burton's best looking film, w/ much of the credit likely due to emmanuel lubezki.
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 07:06 (nine years ago) link
"Transcendence" is the worst movie I've seen in a while, simultaneously super-dumb and super-self-important. Not even fun, just a glum lump of a movie with terrible acting from Depp and Rebecca Hall.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 8 September 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
Looks like nothing new but well done:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/black-mass/review/820013
― half the staying power of Erasure (Eazy), Sunday, 6 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
Wasn't keen on Out Of The Furnace but at least there are no Afflecks in this one. Kind of looking forward to it, but have been disappointed by recent critically acclaimed Boston Crime movies, they don't make 'em like Eddie Coyle any more!
― xelab, Sunday, 6 September 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
Aint that the truth, love that movie
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 6 September 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link