So I don't think it's anything like the terrible downhill slide most old bands have. Erratic and patchy is how I'd describe post80s Cure
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 August 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link
when do ppl think YLT dropped off
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, August 4, 2014 10:09 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Summer Sun was YLT's dropoff point for me, though there were worrying signs on the two preceding records ("Green Arrow" on I Can Hear the Heart, "Tired Hippo" on And then Nothing...).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 August 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
Now that I think about it, there really aren't many bands I love that simply turned to crap.
The declines of Morrissey (Boxers single was his last satisfying disc for me) and Jacula/Antonius Rex (after the first 3 albums there is almost nothing really good) really hurt but Frank Black, Talking Heads, Beach Boys are more difficult to sum up because so many great things are peppered along the decline.
In an odd way it would be easier if some bands turned to total shit because it would be easier to stop with them and be sure where the cut off point was.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 August 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link
Devo most definitely turned to shit for a while
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 4 August 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
did they recover? what's a good later album?
― 3kDk (dog latin), Monday, 4 August 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
Sparks wins so far
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 4 August 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
Morrissey's decline definitely traced around the mid 90s, certainly at least Maladjusted era
Lot of "will he retire" talk around then of course
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 4 August 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
I agree with Tarfumes -- Summer Sun is the big dropoff for me too.
― rockist papist scissorist (WilliamC), Monday, 4 August 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
not really - their 2010 'comeback' was kinda decent though, just naming a band I love that turned to crap.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 4 August 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
still great live though.
― 3kDk (dog latin), Monday, 4 August 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
maybe we should have another thread about bands who haven't recovered yet? (Underworld? Do the Chemical Brothers still exist?)
― StanM, Monday, August 4, 2014 8:34 PM (Yesterday)
as others said, Underworld have never really fallen off, their interests just keep changing, as they have since 1982. Chems last album was one of their best ever and their last two tours were spectacular. (Live tours - I saw a bit of a DJ set early last year and it was pretty dire.)
The Cure pretty much dropped off a cliff IMO; from Disintegration (amazing obvs) to Wish (frequently amazing) to Wild Mood Swings (an abomination).
― piscesx, Monday, August 4, 2014 9:53 PM (Yesterday)
Disintegration (amazing obvs)Never Enough (one of their best singles ever)Hello I Love You (better than The Doors)the re-recording of Primary for Mixed Up (fantastic)Wish (frequently amazing)b-sides from Wish singles (maybe their most solid batch of b-sides ever)Lost Wishes (good enough that they should have done one of these every few years)Burn (magnificent)Young Americans (pretty inessential)Dredd Song (quite bad)The 13th (fantastic, if only it had been successful enough to encourage further genre faffery like this in future, and all the best b-sides of the WMS era)Wild Mood Swings (at least 1/3 good, but 1/3 the opposite)Wrong Number (really mighty, a far better use of Gabrels than anything he's done with them since)A Sign From God (barely remember this but IIRC it was right not to release it under the band's name)World In My Eyes (doesn't do much, especially against some really interesting or well-done covers on the same album)More Than This (total snoozefest)Bloodflowers (consistent but to no effective end)Coming Up (idrc, mildly poppier than the album maybe but so what)Cut Here (gorgeous, one of their most affecting songs, shimmeringly pretty for all its sadness and beautifully sung)
and then a decade where every guest vocal Smith has done for an electronic act is an incredible jam but the band haven't recorded a note I give one eighth of a fuck about. (tbh I've not listened to the full albums, but Simon hates one and Robert feels the other one is tragically compromised so it's hard to imagine I missed out.)
― boney tassel (sic), Monday, 4 August 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Holy fuck! I've never even heard of that Lost Wishes stuff! I guess youtube is the only option I've got for that. I still need some odds and ends and a few singles (I wish Join The Dots collected all the non-album singles as well as Lost Wishes).
Sometimes I get the false impression that I've been there and done it with my favourite bands but there are usually a few more loose ends I need to get.
Sic, I'd highly recommend you get 4:13 Dream. It isn't meaty as you might want but it is fun, very accessible and doesn't have the fatigue/overfamiliar quality I hear from the previous two albums. It sounds quite like Wish to me (probably the presence of Porl). I think this album deserved a better reception than it got but I think a lot of people were reluctant from the previous two albums.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra. Couldn't get arrested in the early 50s, and were reduced to accompanying an ice show in 1955; in 1956, their Newport performance killed, and resulted in their best-selling album.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 August 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
dinosaur jr? the records sure sound like it. the solo mascis stuff masquerading as "dinosaur jr" wasn't shit but it wasn't as good as the original group. kind of impressed with out how smooth that revival went
― marcos, Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:23 AM (1 week ago)
mission of burma another ex of same, 80s indie rockers rebooting to wide acclaim, if not massive pop success
t warrior w/ triptykon, one among many (many) metal bands & figures w/ recently celebrated "comeback" periods
ps: will happily pay upwards of $5 for decent eparistera daimones vinyl, pm me
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Monday, 4 August 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
^ triptykon & last cf album, should say
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Monday, 4 August 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link