In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

Ralph Waldo Emerson, Cubs Outfielder Junior Lake and Robert Palmer.

Would top charts.

i'm trying, and failing, to think of another song that was originally recorded by a band but became a bigger hit when a member of the band put it on his solo album -- without leaving the band. i can think of plenty of examples of solo artists having hits with songs by their former bands, but not any other examples of solo artists having hits with songs by their current bands.

Wasn't Dave Mason's version of Feelin' Alright a bigger hit than Traffic's version of same?

wait strike that for obvious reasons

he recorded it but only Joe Cocker's take charted, which is the one I was thinking of.

So wait, Allman Bros version of Midnight Rider was more popular than Greg Allman version, right?

But Greg's charted higher, ok.

(xp) according to classic rock radio and the winds of time, yeah, the allman bros version wins, i think. but according to the billboard pop chart, the allman bros version doesn't exist and gregg allman's version was a top-20 hit.

Okay, there's lil' Zipper again...

Loved this part of the review so much I'm borrwing it for a while.

Allmans version is way better than Greg n Strings, but Buddy Miles' take is severely underrated.

Gah, there's gotta be a bunch of those out there.

Thought I had one with "Hickory Wind", but that was never released as a single by the Byrds or Parsons!

Midnight Rider: Nice start. Nice feel. Warm, cozy classic rock in the Woodstock vein. Dig the throaty singalong thing. We're all around the campfire here. The way the guitar leads and organ come in subtly on the "silver dollar" part makes them almost feel like sad wordless backing vocals - this feels very mid/late 60s in a way that I like. It also all feels very friendly for a song about a guy who's on the run and trying not to get caught. It's maybe a little mournful, but not urgent (urgent). That's okay though - it's like the rider is pausing at a stranger's campfire, sharing some stew and letting his guard down (just a little) while the coyotes howl in the distance somewhere. I realize this is the wrong imagery for a southern band - I guess sub in the guy from "Everglades" with the slimy bog, skeeters and gators, etc. And, woah, uh, oops, ran out of tape, huh guys?

Yikes, that was one of the most abrupt fades we've had here. Makes me inclined to hear the song more as a fragment they're jamming on, a riff and a hook and some vague ideas for the story, than a fully-worked-out thing - at some point they kinda ran out of material and jammed for a little more before giving up for the night.

Second listen, with more of an eye on the lyrics (but still bobbing along). For a second thought he was saying "and the rum goes on forever," which shifts the geography yet again - this album dates from the band's "pirate" phase, from which they later distanced themselves. "That was a marketing stunt, something Roger (Hart) forced on us, which we did not like to say the least!" Gregg Allman explained in 1992. As I kinda thought, the lyrics are underwritten but the song's fine... this is about the riff, "one morrrre silver dollar," "not gonna let 'em catch me, no," and the instrumental break. I wouldn't change a thing about the arrangement, just think it could use a bridge and some better verses, hint at a little more of a story so that the rider's tale connects emotionally. Why's he riding again, who's trying to catch him? Usually in this kinda thing he's running from the law, or the love interest's father, or maybe other outlaws (he's going good, or just going it alone). The bridge could introduce some mixed feelings about riding, things he knows he's leaving behind - thinking of Paul Simon's "God Bless the Absentee" off the top of my head though obv that's a pretty different song - or sell his disdain for the stationary life that he can't have anyway. Right now he could be just trying to ditch on a parking ticket for all I know.

But I shouldn't ghostwrite too much here - overall this is a thumbs up, and I'm glad to add this one to my playlists.

otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRYOAzS6sA

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=57395

I promise, I was not going to even bring up anything so self-serving, but gr8080's kinda forcing my hand here.

wait, is that you, pplains? hilarious, and completely appropriate here.

He's been saying for years that that wasn't him.

Loved this part of the review so much I'm borrwing it for a while.

― Okay, there's lil' Zipper again (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:29 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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I worked the knobs on it, yes.

i'm trying, and failing, to think of another song that was originally recorded by a band but became a bigger hit when a member of the band put it on his solo album -- without leaving the band

Not that either version was released as a single or could remotely be called a hit, but I'm thinking the Phil Collins remake of "Behind the Lines" from Face Value got more airplay on NYC's WNEW-FM than the Genesis original from Duke

don't think i know that phil collins/genesis song, but that would do it if phil's version had any hit-like qualities.

in honor of gene simmons becoming the first human to shout it out loud in support of donald sterling (while still, to be fair, calling the la clippers owner "heinous"):

SONG #26: KISS "SHOUT IT OUT LOUD"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16cEJ-CBejA

Love this track so much - Stanley's vocal, the guitar interplay, the Motown drums, the handclaps, the piano (?). Great record.

y'know, i grew up hearing far more Eric Clapton than I care to remember but i really barely know a lot of his stuff that ended up placing in the middle section of the poll's top 500 -- "Badge" and "Can't Find My Way Home" don't ring a bell at all and i mostly know "Bell Bottom Blues" from the 24 Nights live album my mom used to play incessantly.

don't think i know that phil collins/genesis song, but that would do it if phil's version had any hit-like qualities

Phil's version is hit-like in all but having been a hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazN1zHRbAc

I love the syncopation on the Collins version.

Before I finally turn to Kiss (sorry, y'all, been writing about Brutalist telephone architecture for the last few days and trying to curb my ILXing), I'm taking a quick listen to the Gregg Allman "Midnight Rider" - wow, really different sound here. A little less woolly, almost vaguely funky, but generally kinda smoother and fuller. I don't think it lands the chorus quite as well but the groove is fine. The (kinda Doors-y) organ and the string section just don't lend itself to the idea that we're really getting a snapshot from the road...holy cow, a horn chart too? We're in Madman Across the Water territory here - but I like Elton's weird, layered studio take on Americana just fine so I should take it from Gregg here too. I can see why the band version has become the staple even if this charted better at the time; it doesn't really solve any of the problems of the other one, and it adds a lot of stuff that probably started to feel a little dated or just superfluous. Don't mind it, but the other one can comfortably lead in and out of anything in your early 70s rock playlist. Also the way this drags out at the end is almost sillier than the sudden knob-twist from the Brothers.

Couldn't handle the audio on the Waylon Jennings live clip, but listening to the studio version it's preeeeeetty cool! One for that trippy 70s country-pop thread. Feels a little too 'fast' for the amount of detail in the mix, it's bumpin' but I can imagine it really drawing you into the haze with a more sluggish delivery. Man, nobody can find an ending to this song - but I like his approach of just stopping, even if it again weakens the idea of an endless roaming ride.

As for R. Mantlebakken, <3. Making me want to crack back open my perpetually unfinished Girl Talk ripoff project of many years and do an all-classic-rock cut or two. The "I'm gettin' down on the weekends" part in particular rocks.

Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but I'd love to hear more, maybe in a different thread.

http://i.imgur.com/V6RaaCc.png

That kinda thing, yeah! There's a lot of them. For the paper, ground zero is this puppy:

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...but I'm moving in and out of the building, covering some other territory. Kind of a mess right now, gonna need a seeeeerious edit once I finish this draft. Ugh.

man, nuflickr basically blows at every level

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i give up

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lol thank you. I really cannot figure out how to extract a simple, working hotlink to a fixed-size jpeg from the new Flickr system. You'd think this would be kind of a popular feature.

(probably would help if i hadn't forgotten that ILX uses bbcode but uh, still)

Shout It Out Loud: Wow, this is perky, jaunty even! Okay, there's the crunchy guitar I expected. This is bumpin along, good use of the backing vocals. Like the fullness of sound on "what you've been TOLD."

The chorus sounds vaguely familiar but might just be kinda what rock songs sound like. Is there a piano in there? Love that. Somehow, from KISS I accept a certain generic-ness of theme, it's appropriate that they're just going on about getting the party started and so on. I mean this has a pretty clear purpose, an arena band needs something to ....ahahha, I like the "You got to have a par-ty!" guy growling in there. Generally love all the vocal interjections in this, I can't tell whether we're dealing with multiple singers or what but it totally feels like each member of the band is getting a turn, they can't hold back their enthusiasm. Very "Are you ready, Steve? Andy?" kinda thing, or the climax of "Surrender" (we're all all right!). This isn't as good as those songs but it fits the role very well, this isn't exactly the curtain-raiser start of the arena show, it's more something in the middle of the set, when everybody's already really fired up, just keeps the fire roaring.

Second listen, on headphones - sounds a little "cleaner" this way, which isn't really a benefit, but once everything is going it feels appropriately messy/live. Yeah. I don't really have any sophisticated read on this one: totally solid, unpretentious stuff, and refreshingly short. Love that piano, a real secret weapon I think even if it seems totally out of context for this band of freaks on stage with flames shooting out behind them. Love the change-ups, the solo punches its way into the scene without fanfare or preamble, like the band just can't contain themselves. I think I like this more than "Rock and Roll All Nite" even.

is there a piano in there? there's most definitely a piano on the next song on destroyer, the great "beth."

i love "shout it out loud" as a let's-just-do-pretty-much-the-same-thing-again followup to "rock and roll all nite." not as huge and rousing a chorus, but equally punchy and pleasing and straight to the point. paul and gene taking turns on the lead vocal. and yeah the full-band backing vocals are awesome.

the run on Destroyer from Shout it Out Loud to Do You Love Me? is great.

moving from one side of new york to a very, very different side of new york while slowing down the tempo just a hair. #1 in ilm's steely dan artist poll. #145 in ilm's classic rock countdown.

SONG #27: Steely Dan "Deacon Blues"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4d8XrDyArE

have debated a "deacon blue" tattoo for a while now

Deacon Blue: Smooth opening, sounds like other Steely Dan I know (particularly "Peg" without the zippier game-show lead), good 70s TV scene-setting music. We're zooming in on the marina where the crime has taken place, and the detective is getting out of his car. Already lost track of the lyrics but it sounds like a horror or superhero story about an "expanding man" who's turning to silly putty or something. People don't believe him - that'd be the mayor and the chief of police, I imagine. Cool. Wait. "Learn to work the saxophone?" Maybe his expanding lips, though a curse, give him an edge with reed instruments. And now he takes up his showbiz name, Deacon Blue. I can work with this. Laid-back loungey 70s tunes about guys taking up musical careers - One-Trick Pony rock. Kinda amazed there could be eight minutes of this but it's fine background.

Starting to doubt my Plastic Man story, guy is sounding a little too successful. Not sure how I feel about him drinking Scotch whiskey all night behind the wheel; Steely Dan seem arch enough that I guess this could be building up to a dark climax where he kills a bunch of kids, and they reveal how your musical icons are actually quiet, grainy-film-stock TV-drama monsters. This long chill-out sax break doesn't seem to be quite taking us in that direction. I dunno, this is all very pleasant, can't imagine thinking of it as my favorite song or anything. Not much of a hook, just nice musicianship.

Okay, the Night of the Expanding Man. Definitely horror movie then. One of those grand tragic unveilings where this blob guy is like, they'll see me and they'll love me for my music! and then everybody is shocked and retching at this terrifying sight. Or maybe, I guess, he's just a sad sack: "call me Deacon Blue," he said ironically, knowing nobody will ever call him anything; quietly self-destructive alcoholic saxophonists are a dime a dozen these days... but I'll play for you anyway, what difference does it make? In all seriousness: this is basically "Piano Man," right? But with a saxophone and long instrumental breaks meant to demonstrate his skill? Pleasant, kinda borderline elevator music, don't regret having heard it, don't have any particular desire to play it again.

borderline elevator music,

lol this soft jazz instrumental version of deacon blues (with a flute playing the vocal melody) came on in the grocery store i was in yesterday

Heads up to fcc: I recently heard "Let My Love Open the Door," thanks to the closing montage/credits of Look Who's Talking. It's chipper and lovely!

General Casino listening update: today I acquired The James Gang's Rides Again, based on all the love on ILX, but specifically on the logic of Well, if VegemiteGrrl likes them so much... The dude at the store called it out by name in my stack and said "Hey, you've got good taste!"

There was a Creem Magazine review that said something like "Let My Love Open the Door" playing from behind a closed bathroom door sounded exactly like a McDonald's commercial. Made my nine-year-old self convulse with laughter though I guess it wasn't really all that funny.

Fun fact: LMLOTD matched the Who's biggest singles chart success in the US (#9 in Billboard, same as "I Can See For Miles" 13 years earlier).

i was surprised when "deacon blue" won the steely dan poll. i've always liked the song, but it never seemed like the standout track from aja to me, never mind from the whole steely dan catalog. i would like it more if it was in fact about an "expanding man" silly putty dude whose superpower gave him a preternatural ability on reed instruments. best alternate reading of a pop song i've read in a long while.

this is basically "Piano Man," right?

more like a spinoff from "piano man," starring one of the characters from one random line in one random verse in "piano man." someone should record a full album of "piano man" spinoffs along these lines. maybe rufus wainwright.

to be clear, it won the poll because it appeared on the most ballots.

it also rules

ironic that a song about being a loser should come in first place

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