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What good books are there about the Canterbury Scene and its history?

Harper Valley PTSD (WilliamC), Friday, 8 August 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link

My White Bicycles, by Joe Boyd

Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 August 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link

Sorry, just called White Bicycles: Making Music In The 60s. Covers his whole career and not really about the Canterburylp

Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 August 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link

Not really about the Canterbury Scene except for The Soft Machine but still an awesome book full of great anecdotes and insights from beginning to end.

Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 August 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link

Cool, just got the sample for the Kindle app. Thanks!

Harper Valley PTSD (WilliamC), Friday, 8 August 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link

Sure. Did you see the quote from Eno in the cover?

Another interesting book for you, although again not really about that scene per se is Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain's Visionary Music by Rob Young.

Dedekind Cut Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 August 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, that's a pretty strong endorsement.

Harper Valley PTSD (WilliamC), Friday, 8 August 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Did you every read that one? In any case, new authorized bio of Robert Wyatt is out in case you didn't see on other threads.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Not yet, but I have many hours of plane/airport time coming up this week, so that may be my reading.

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Something else just popped up as an ebook- Soft Machine: Out-Bloody-Rageous, by Graham Bennett.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

That's great about out-bloody-rageous since I think it was one of several books put out by SAF that had otherwise long gone. Hope others reappear.

SAF also put out Daevid Allen's 2 volume Gong Dreaming of which I only have the 2nd, Gong era volume. It's pretty interesting so I'd assume the 1st book would be worth reading & would cover his time in Canterbury alongside other stuff.

Want to read the new Wyatt bio anyway.

Stevolende, Sunday, 16 November 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

I've read both the Daevid Allen Gong Dreaming books. Thought they were equally fascinating, although a bit TMI with some of his drug/sex epiphanies. What was unexpected: a) Allen's under-confidence/insecurities, b) the sheer volume of rancourous conflict within the band; Tim Blake comes out especially badly.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 16 November 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

Been listening to The Little Red Record by Matching Mole so much this fall.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 16 November 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I can't really recommend the Wyatt bio, which I got instead of White Bicycles for travel reading. It's well enough written, but everything that's not about the music reveals Wyatt to have lived a pretty boring life. And the fact that it's authorized and had the full cooperation of Wyatt and Alfie makes the result a bit fawning.

WilliamC, Sunday, 14 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

this is so cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhVS8ty2Vfc

"The progressive rock session" currently held bimonthly at the rock bar "Honeyflash" in Warabi, Saitama, Japan.

Four players are all amateur musicians.
Without any rehearsal.
This is amazing !

playing national health! <3

sleepingbag, Saturday, 22 April 2017 07:23 (seven years ago) link

Nobody mentioned Supersister the Dutch band that are pretty firmly in the Canterbury style.

Is Soft Machine still thought of as Canterbury towards the end? I mean when there are more Nucleus members than originals?

Also look out for Caravan live at Amouges 1969 which is a bootleg from the festival where Frank Zappa guested with every band. It's a bit heavier than them in the studio & has FZ jamming on one track.
There's also 2 volumes of radio sessions by them on Hux. Can't remember title but 1st vol was 68 to 71.

Wilde Flowers had their material compiled a couple of years back. Not sure how great they were, could be more historical than musical interest. Think they were about the first band for a few involved. But do have songs by people who were later pretty good writers.

Soft Machine have several compis with the Daevid Allen material on. They were pretty good at the time but more about 66-67 psych than long improvisation.
There's also a set by the Daevid Allen Trio from the early 60s which is instrumental jazz stuff.

Stevolende, Saturday, 22 April 2017 08:21 (seven years ago) link

I heard a Wilde Flowers collection several years ago, posted somewhere (Spotify?): demos, work tapes, at least a couple of versions of "Memories", which I read somewhere that Hugh Hopper wrote when he was 16---obviously gifted youngsters (incl.pre-Caravan), but Wyatt's already the star, without showing off; he's just got the charisma, and the writing and production (incl. the sense of a real band playing) cohere around him.
But I'm biased in his favor---I do like the Softs best with him, Ayers, Hopper, and stopped listening to them altogether when he quit or was fired (Ayers and Hopper were already gone, I think). I like most of the Wyatt I've heard, which isn't nearly all of it---so prolific---but yeah Matching Mole and others mentioned above. Also the comp Different Every Time, the two-volume edition: https://www.discogs.com/Robert-Wyatt-Different-Every-Time/master/810462
Pretty good Wyatt doc still available via the Music Documentaries Online thread, last time I checked (last week).

dow, Saturday, 22 April 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of Ayers, here's what I wrote about The Unfairground, his very late return, and the last album of new material released in his lifetime, I think---mainly of interest if you're wayyy into him/this scene/albums on which a seemingly hopeless old fart curmudgeon eventually comes back to creative life, at least for a while---kinda startling that way: https://papercomet.blogspot.com/2017/04/kevin-ayers.html

dow, Saturday, 22 April 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

Ayers and Hopper weren't in SM at same time. Ayers went solo or back to Deya and Hopper came in.
Ayers era also saw Andy Summers in the band on guitar. Would love to get some recordings but not sure any exist. Summers was playing improvised ragaesque guitar lines. I don't think he got on with Ayers so he left. Oddly I think he turns up backing Ayers some time in the 70s.

Ayers solo stuff is pretty great for at least first 4 or 5 lps. There's a Dutch live set around that's pretty good also a Hyde Park one and I think I had a BBC In Concert cd too.

Stevolende, Sunday, 23 April 2017 07:51 (seven years ago) link

Also got to recommend the Robert Wyatt Theatre Royal Drury lane 1974 set even if it does dip in sound quality towards the end.

Stevolende, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:27 (seven years ago) link


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