the most promising young american author is TAO LIN

haha er are people reacting to my quote because my quote is not tao lin

Misunderstandings can arise when you fail to attribute quotes.

i think the balls given by the princesse de léon should've tipped you off.

balls tripped by TAO of LIN

Swann Lin

if only proust could have lived long enough to learn about wit and playfulness from dfw

my claim is that t.l. is sort of like swann in love if it were written by swann, i guess, and also that that's a strength

oh god this clown

think we can all agree it's fortunate dfw was not around to turn proust on to nested footnotes

^somewhere on the internet there is prob that fanfic though right if not i might write it

A Supposedly Delicious Madeleine I'll Never Eat Again

can't lie, I chuckled

...At the same time the last volumes of 'A la Recherche du Temps Perdu' were coming out and anyone who pretended to care about good writing and who knew French knew his Proust. Though I am not a Jew a don compared me to Swann. This gave me great pleasure but the character who never failed to be mentioned not less than once each evening was Charlus...

-- Henry Green, Pack my Bag

yikes

Specifically

http://jezebel.com/alt-lit-icon-tao-lin-accused-of-horrific-rape-and-abuse-1641641060

And dare I say a key thing from the summary:

He responded with an essay-length defense of their sexual relationship that didn't refute any of her claims of abuse, which he posted to Facebook, edited several times, and eventually deleted.

Well, mow I'm extra glad I gave up on Taipei about twelve pages in.

huh didn't know ellen was trans now

I feel sick about this and won't defend him. E.R.'s account pretty much squares with what happens in Richard Yates... guess I just didn't want to think about the relationship between how fucked up the book was and reality, which is a moral failing on my part. Still think Taipei is a classic but I can't see myself enjoying his work in the future, or at least not championing it.

Bought Taipei. Read a few pages. Stopped reading. Long time ago.

Not saying some convicted criminal can't produce quality work, though.

phew for a second there I thought you were saying that

even reading the descriptions of this guy's books makes me angry

phew for a second there I thought you were saying that

― please delete outrageous tanuki crappyposter (wins), Thursday, October 2, 2014 7:36 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

suck it young person

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in retrospect a poor choice of words

i guess i should read richard yates now

why on earth would you just now want to read that book

seems more interesting now and might keep my attention past page 30

it's pretty disgusting that when you google the words richard yates the first result you get is this fuckin' guy's book and not, yknow, the actual talented author richard yates

Tao Lin's is 4 down for me.

yeah i googled tao lin earlier so it's possible google just adjusted the results for me. oh well.

think we all know who the real enemy here is, google

sorry

im siding with tao. ER read the book and approved it before publication

interesting to see tao lin being a defensive mealy mouthed piece of shit rather than an arch ironic distant piece of shit

xp God for a minute I thought you meant the Queen

im siding with tao. ER read the book and approved it before publication

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, October 2, 2014 5:03 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do you think things are different now though that, after some years of reflection, he realized that this was a traumatic thing in his life? the book is explicitly about the fucked up power dynamics in that relationship, and the treatment described in it is basically emotional abuse. i thought this was exaggerated for effect... it's a novel after all. but yeah, it seems that the shit in that book went down the way he said it did and e.r. came out of that relationship feeling that his consent had been violated. so i can't stand by that behavior no matter how much i have loved his books.

not to mention that the affect of that power dynamic may not have been fully erased by the time of publication. that kind of control, born of systematic abuse, isn't something that is easily resolved

much as lolling itt is bad rn, lol kinder

ER deleted all tweets, leaving only this:

"DO NOT BLOG ABOUT MY TWEETS THIS IS MY PROBLEM"

.....why would you tweet in the first place

unfortunate timing w/ the Pop Serial guy, now there are many many more people who just found out who tao lin is and already know he's a 'garbage terrible shitty person'

imo this smacks of character defamation, AT LEAST not as clear cut as Tully

Tao in an email to Gawker:

I've not seen Elton in person for ~5 years, but we've been friends and have emailed regularly until her recent bipolar episode, after which she lashed out against me online. Similar things have happened before, not involving me and involving me, around times when she has gone to a hospital. I recommend seeing the context for this with Elton's other tweets. Friends have told me how serious false rape allegations are and how it can affect everyone involved direly for the rest of our lives. I'm guessing my lawyer will have more to say and I should leave it here for this email.

ok cap'n

Part of me wants to be on board with you spazzmatazz bc i do love lin's books, but i am just feeling more revolted by this than i was when i read richard yates. Idk why I wasn't disturbed then -- i thought it was a book and was supposed to be disturbing -- but considering the human fallout of this i just can't be equivocal

Writing a book about being an abusive shithead and then trying to discredit the victim by pointing to the fact that he suffers from mental health problems (hmmm wonder why) yeah this seems like someone you'd wanna side with

I have not read this book but is it really about a 22 year old having an emotionally abusive relationship with a 16 year old? I tried reading some writing by Tao Lin a few years back and the matter-of-fact statement of behavior and actions with no real introspection seemed creepy as hell, not in a depression/on meds for depression way but more a sort of sociopathy

there's a lot about this that's definitely fucked up (and i feel like if i'd read the book, which apparently mirrors some of the allegations, i'd feel even more strongly), but the evidence that lin is a rapist seems pretty weak. i'm sort of glad i'm not a fan of his work though

his refusal to refer to his ex-lover as male is pretty cruel and paternalistic too

Email I sent my brother, who has an infant, that I want to share because it may be helpful/informative to other people also pic.twitter.com/JgX3GVLZ5K

— Tao Lin (@tao_lin) November 4, 2017

Interesting twist at the end of that email. Apparently, Lin thinks that toxins in vaccines cause autism and other adverse reactions... but also that all of that stuff is easily cured, by eating organic food or something.

holy shit! LMAO