confirmed that i can sing the hook without searching youtube
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
It feels very "pop for 2014" to me in that it sounds like it's made to appeal to the crowd that is suffereng from "EDM Fatigue" and that likes stuff like "Happy" and "All About That Bass".
― MarkoP, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
No thinkpieces about the video. Please.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
yeah the jam/lewis thing was me writing real time fan fiction, sorry everybody
― maura, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
singing at the top of my lungs
HEARTBREAKER'S GONNA BREAK BREAK BREAK BREAK BREAK
― uberweiss, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
an electric pop anthem complete with the "Hey Ya" inspired horns that have taken music by storm this year
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
gimme just one track that's taylor-gone-latin freestyle and i'll be happy
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
This pop song sounds like other pop songs shocker wtf
― Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
There's some unfortunate twerking though.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
so can i, which somehow makes it worse
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
the video is terrible
the "fakin' fakin' fakeeee" adlib near the end is KILLING me
― uberweiss, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
deep prayers for this one
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
new charli xcx single > this
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
getting Hey Ya vibes
― Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
um
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
third listen and i don't care / i love it
THEY'RE FAKIN' FAKIN' FAKEEEEEEEEEE
― uberweiss, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link
my coworker's reaction is my favorite: "i feel like if i heard this when i was out and kinda drunk i'd be like yeeAAAAHHHH"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
"haters gonna hate" is the most odious expression of the last 40 years so I'm not feeling generous
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's gonna be huge with the 'tonight's gonna be a good night' set
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
also: pop stars really don't know what the fuck to do with horn sections besides treat them as rhythm guitars or something
The beat sounds a lot like the beat for "Happy," with the open hi-hat hit moved in the measure.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
I mean it's a pretty standard drum beat but it jumped out at me.
otm
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
this is like everything i didn't even know i needed!!!
gonna assume her inspiration for the song's FUNK and album title came from her playing the 1975's "girls" incessantly on the streets of nyc this summer
― prolego, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
this is about as ebullient as a cardiac arrest
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
reserve the right to like this at any time but the song is totally megahan trainor's second single and the video looks like an snl sketch
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah my immediate reaction was "wow this is the perfect midpoint between "happy" and "all about that bass" how timely."
This is part of the genius of max martin which stands apart from whether you like the results, his stylistic shifts are so utterly ruthless.
― Tim F, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
i'm surprised she went with something so ordinary
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
I dunno, the same is true of "We Are Never...". The pop move last time made more sense once we heard the other Martin joints, retrospectively making the first single sound better.
― Tim F, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
I think I was in the minority here in recoiling at Red, precisely for how little Martin and Shellback and Swift have in common.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
Out of the way too many songs around in the past couple years that sound like this one, this one has one of the best melodies. I just don't know what to do with the lyrics and the rap break, though.
― Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
i mean from afar i should probs be slightly disappointed or w/e but then every single part of this song is a total earworm and makes me want to dance giddily and it is so funky and THEY'RE FAKIN' FAKIN' FAKEEEEEEEE
― uberweiss, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
the fella over there with the hella good hair
― struggle blogger (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
It's not a rap. It's more like the "shit is bananas" bit from "Hollaback Girl". Though not as good as that obv.
― Tim F, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
I'm drinking a Soy latteI get a double shotIt goes right through my bodyAnd you knowI'm satisfied,I drive my mini cooperAnd I'm feeling super-dooperYo they tell I'm a trooper
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
1989 is a touchstone; Taylor's songwriting and sonic evolution surprises us more than ever before. Heavily keyboard and beat driven, the pop sensibilities that have always been the hallmark of Taylor’s music now move front and center on 1989. "I spent two years making 1989. Two years gives you enough time to grow and change and let things inspire you. I was listening to a lot of late 80's pop music and how bold those songs were and how that time period was a time of limitless possibilities. In thinking about that, this album is a rebirth for me. This is my very first documented, official pop album. 1989 is the most sonically cohesive album I have ever made and my favorite album I have ever made," said Taylor.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
(Formal press release action)
I mean I'm totally cool with Swift recording a Fine Young Cannibals album or Cosmic Thing
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
some of you should look away now lol
http://oi59.tinypic.com/ncxvk9.jpg
― uberweiss, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
well "we are never" was hyper-pop but it still sounded like her. it was a pretty easy bridge to envision, and i think the same is true for "22" if not exactly "i knew you were trouble"
maybe i'm just feeling weird about there being no twangy guitar trojan horse-ing the new sounds in
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's not a rap
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
NO FUCKING WAY
― prolego, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
"For the record this is my very first documented pop album," she added.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
Taylor Swift & Ryan Tedder
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
she used an ampersand
this is a well written song, the hook is good. i just think the beat is ugly and cheap sounding and a bit too on the nose.
if this sounded like "stay stay stay" i'd be down
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
girl if you're going to be evoking the year that pop gave us like a prayer and raw like sushi and rhythm nation 1814 and hats you gotta come a bit harder than ryan bloody tedder
― prolego, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Haha
― Tim F, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
ppl have been suspicious of the temporal provenance of the vault tracks since swift dropped the "fuck the patriarchy" keychain on the ground in the 10 minute "all too well." imo it doesn't matter and who cares
― ivy., Saturday, 28 October 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link
I don’t think of it as a “gotcha” thing; but as a fan of her music, I think it’s interesting to think about the provenance of those songs and how they fit in her “story” as a songwriter. Like, “Mr. Perfectly Fine” from the (“Fearless” vault) is one of my favorite songs of the past few years, and it’s fascinating to think she wrote and discarded it.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Saturday, 28 October 2023 18:41 (six months ago) link
(I also wouldn’t “hold it against her” if she’s not being entirely truthful about when they were fleshed out / finished… artists fudge the truth about that kind of thing all the time.)
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Saturday, 28 October 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link
Yeah, no one cares, it's just trivia. Even Springsteen, I believe one of his box sets of leftovers from the '70s had at least one song that was 100% recorded recently, because they didn't have any good takes. But in Swift's case, it might answer the question "these songs are so good, why weren't they on the album?" Maybe because they weren't done and she's gotten better?
And yeah, fwiw I still hear "1989" tracks all the time. In fact, the other night the local pop station was playing "1989 (Taylor's Version)" in its entirety, which I don't recall them doing for the other re-releases.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 October 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link
she doesn't say "this sick beats" this time so that's an improvement
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 29 October 2023 18:12 (six months ago) link
Unless you mean she said it wrong the first time? I guess the distortion on the “t” does make it sound like “beats.”
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 29 October 2023 18:13 (six months ago) link
<i>The "Bad Blood" version with Kendrick is her worst single, right? We can all agree?</i>
I've said it elsewhere on this board but Kendrick's verse on bad blood sucks donkey butt and his verse on Freedom fucking rules and there's an essay in there somewhere about that
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:30 (six months ago) link
yes on the original it sounds like she say 'beats' and on this it sounds less like 'beats' and more like 'beat'
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 29 October 2023 22:13 (six months ago) link
I’m sure it’s “This sick beast”
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 30 October 2023 00:35 (six months ago) link
And what sick beat, its hour come round at last / Slouches towards Stockholm to be born?
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Monday, 30 October 2023 01:44 (six months ago) link
assuming you're not being sarcastic and/or making a Yeats joke: "Taylor Swift Trademarks ‘This Sick Beat’ and Other ‘1989’ Phrases":
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-trademarks-this-sick-beat-and-other-1989-phrases-41228/
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 30 October 2023 02:32 (six months ago) link
I assumed these were all jokes...
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Monday, 30 October 2023 02:49 (six months ago) link
It’s all fun and jokes until the falcon cannot hear the falconer
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 30 October 2023 03:14 (six months ago) link
Surely some Reputation is at hand;Surely the Taylor's Version is at hand.
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Monday, 30 October 2023 03:30 (six months ago) link
the players lack all conviction, while the haters are filled with passionate intensity
― Tim F, Monday, 30 October 2023 03:48 (six months ago) link
Horse girls, pass by
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 30 October 2023 04:01 (six months ago) link
(if Taylor ever did write a song premised on The Second Coming it would finally justify all the lazy Joni Mitchell critical comparisons)
― Tim F, Monday, 30 October 2023 04:47 (six months ago) link
The Pitchfork review, exploring how the vault tracks differ from the album cuts, makes an interesting observation (which may help explain why I like them so much):
On “Suburban Legends,” Swift writes in the dense, largely rhymeless run-on style that defines later records like Folklore and Midnights. The second verse builds to the lines, “I am standing in a 1950s gymnasium/And I can still see it now”—an unwieldy contrast to the appealingly quantized bounce of 1989 cuts like “How You Get the Girl” and “Style.”
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Monday, 30 October 2023 05:22 (six months ago) link
I’m surprised that “Slut!” seems to be generally disfavored… I think it’s such a good song (and with a great refrain—“If I’m gonna be drunk / I might as well be drunk in love”)
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Monday, 30 October 2023 05:26 (six months ago) link
See, Beyonce, this is what happens when you don't trademark your phrases
― Vinnie, Monday, 30 October 2023 11:01 (six months ago) link
If I’m gonna be crazy, I may as may be…
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 30 October 2023 12:21 (six months ago) link
We played TS in the car yesterday and a few of the redone 1989 songs came up. "Style" was the one I noticed was particularly lacking for the reasons some of you mentioned: guitar and mixing were weaker, less emotion in the vocal. But I've also listened to that song many more times than the others so the differences jump out
― Vinnie, Monday, 30 October 2023 14:02 (six months ago) link
Finally got around to listening to the new vault songs, they're really good! The best batch of vault tracks of any of the do-overs? She's taking the imperial phase to kind of ridiculous extremes here.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 03:14 (five months ago) link
On par with the Fearless vault tracks IMO (though there is one track more of those)
― Phair · Jagger/Richards · Carl Perkins (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 03:25 (five months ago) link
It's interesting that Midnights was received rather poorly here yet there seems to be universal approval of the Vault tracks. There's a lot of "Mastermind" and "Labyrinth" in "Suburban Legends" and "Is It Over Now."
― Indexed, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 14:59 (five months ago) link
Well as J0rdan and I discussed above, they’re in a similar mode but so much better!
― Phair · Jagger/Richards · Carl Perkins (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 15:45 (five months ago) link