The Honourable Woman (BBC Two)

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Beyond that, why did the "bad guys" need to rig all those shadowy conspiracies and kidnappings in the first place? Why not just assassinate Nessa and Ephra in the UK and blame it on Israelis?

slip jig (seandalai), Friday, 22 August 2014 11:09 (nine years ago) link

the Secretary of State agreed to go along with the plan.

What plan? Like..... back before Samir Meshal had been killed, what was the plan?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 August 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

I mean, we know that before Meshal was killed, Monica had planted bogus information to push Shlomo out of the picture.

She had also met with Samir Meshal in a D.C. hotel.

Unrelatedly, Ephra had installed bugging equipment on Shlomo's cables which was being monitored by both Israeli and US intelligence and which apparently could capture almost 100% of Palestinian voice traffic.

Because of the bugging equipment, both Israel and the US heard Samir Meshal say "She has agreed" on the phone.

If we're to understand that he was talking about the US Sec State, does that mean there was a plot hatched by Monica and Palestine to get the US not to veto Palestinian statehood BEFORE any of the events of E01 came to pass?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 August 2014 12:22 (nine years ago) link

(And that the US then offed Meshal before Israel was able to lay their hands on him to find out what he meant?)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 August 2014 12:23 (nine years ago) link

If we're to understand that he was talking about the US Sec State, does that mean there was a plot hatched by Monica and Palestine to get the US not to veto Palestinian statehood BEFORE any of the events of E01 came to pass?

Yes. Before that, we don't really know who initiated what when. Was Atika sent to the UK as a sleeper agent 7 years ago, or did she get recruited later?

slip jig (seandalai), Friday, 22 August 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link

The only thing I didn't understand is why Nessa wasn't killed right away by Zahid al-Zahid's men when they discovered she wasn't already dead.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, August 22, 2014 9:39 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i.e. why keep her alive? Just so that he could have that muahaha taunting encounter with her?

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, August 22, 2014 9:39 AM (Yesterday)

Yeah I didn't really get this. Maybe the guys who found her alive didn't feel they had the authority to personally kill someone so important? Also her Blackberry being plugged in next to her bed implied someone wanted her to call someone in the UK to say she was still alive.

Of all the implausibilities in the show I found the US secretary of state going along with a conspiracy to grant Palestine statehood to be the most implausible (unless I misunderstood that plot point).

V enjoyable and classily executed programme all round, though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link

Hugh was my favourite character ultimately.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:28 (nine years ago) link

otm yes

slip jig (seandalai), Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

Nessa was the worst character in a respectable drama in living memory ime

slip jig (seandalai), Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah four episodes in starting to wonder about this ^^

zombie formalist (m coleman), Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

Ah Nessa wasn't that bad - the fact that her philanthropy was probably mainly for self serving reasons was interesting. However I could never quite decide if she was intended to be likeable - if she was they failed big time.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 23 August 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link

What was it she said to Bloom, sitting at the foot of his hospital bed? "I'm a bit chilly."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link


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