Emmys' Most-Winningest Best Comedy Serieses

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ALF wuz robbed.

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link

One thing I did like about ELR is that it turned the children into almost invisible characters unlike most family sitcoms. It was all about the adults, it was well written and everybody in the cast except for Ray Romano and Brad Garrett was actually pleasant to watch.

Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link

Modern Family goes OTT with the sentimentality because of how pointed the relationships become; the show wants to derive humor from conflict and misunderstanding (and goofy situations) but not to the point where the family seems like it's going to implode/break apart. The closest they've gotten has been the Jay/Mitchell relationship.

Also I may be alone here but the kids on Modern Family are hysterical.

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

I've only seen a handful of Modern Family episodes, but it just smells of taking things like Arrested Development, The Office, Parks & Rec, etc and rubbing all the pointy edges off so boomers won't cut themselves on it.

Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

That's otm. Also, every single episode has one of the characters getting into a minor car accident, for some reason.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

Eh, it's using the documentary style but it's not really going after the same wacky/satirical territory so much as refreshing the "big house" family sitcom, a mission accomplished. The cast is really good all around.

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

Out of this list, Murphy Brown seems the most like the highly acclaimed (and watched) sitcom that time completely forgot.

Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Musical_Man

This was the episode of Modern Family that made me start watching the show; I don't think I'd agree with the idea that the big lols here have the pointedness rubbed off of them.

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

Most of the friends who still watch sitcoms love "Modern Family." None of them are gay.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

I just watched the Fitzbo episode. Was quite good. What other episodes is worth checking out? The idea that Modern Family belongs in the same pantheon as... well, ok, Frasier. Huh. Emmys are stupid, huh?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

i never got the sense that the studio audience was "in" on the satire

MIKE: So now you're going to tell me the black man has just as much chance as the white man to get a job?
ARCHIE: More, he has more... I didn't have no million people marchin' and protestin' to get me my job.
EDITH: No, his uncle got it for him.

[huge laugh]

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Modern Family goes OTT with the sentimentality because of how pointed the relationships become; the show wants to derive humor from conflict and misunderstanding (and goofy situations) but not to the point where the family seems like it's going to implode/break apart. The closest they've gotten has been the Jay/Mitchell relationship.

This sounds EXACTLY like every episode of Everybody Loves Raymond (a terrible show) I've ever seen.

It's Autumn Sunrise (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

This reminds me that I finally found an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond that I thought was hilarious, where the conflict started because Ray was telling his friends that he could call Debra anything and get away with it if it was in a playful tone; the degree to which that crashed and burned was kind of amazing and hilarious.

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

ELR's primary takeaway for me was in feeling really, really sorry for straight people.

It's Autumn Sunrise (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

Cheers, I guess. I like MTM but haven't really seen enough of it.
Murphy Brown is the one I watched when it originally aired but don't think I've seen since. I am thinking now it would seem pretty dated and obvious?
I've tried to watch Modern Family a few times but didn't find it engaging.

MrDasher, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

i have a feeling the 'best' is prob MTM, but i haven't really watched it in two decades so i'll go with 30 rock.

AITF seems very very different from anything else here, and not just because the themes are different. the vibe is really unsettling. most beloved sitcoms tend to have a kind of placid, comfortable atmosphere to them, but here it feels like all of the characters are constantly either screaming at each other, storming off in disgust, or dissolving into hysterics. must have been all the more shocking coming at the end of a decade of sitcoms about wisecracking witches and talking horses (tho tbh if i have to watch a sitcom i'd rather watch one from that era than most of these).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link

what amazes me about ELR is how something can be so bleak and mean-spirited and still be so completely unfunny

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

it feels like all of the characters are constantly either screaming at each other, storming off in disgust, or dissolving into hysterics

It's set in Queens.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

ZING!

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

I feel weird sticking up here for Everybody Loves Raymond, surely one of the most popular sitcoms ever, but within its bitterness there's something surprisingly real in it, and it was often funny. It IS a broad farce, but I'd be lying if I didn't see a lot of recognizable humanity. It does deserve to be above the pack of standard family sitcoms.

ELR's primary takeaway for me was in feeling really, really sorry for straight people.
You are correct sir! As mentioned also, they pretty deliberately hid the young children which was good (and still unusual) choice for the series

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

For a couple years there my sister had syndicated ELR reruns on every time I visited, and it was fucking hell imho. Couldn't make it through 10 mins.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Peter Boyle and Doris Roberts were the glue of the show, and could've anchored it with any other surrounding cast.

Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

Primo "Meathead as dolt" episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clFl59-zArk

I haven't watched All in the Family for a long time--it probably hasn't been in network syndication here for at least 25 years. (I'd happily buy a box of the complete series if I found one cheap enough.) So even though that might be the right answer for me, I'll go with MTM, which I've watched recently.

Larry Sanders (3 Emmys) over all of them.

clemenza, Monday, 8 September 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

Despite AITF feeling like the only show here with "import" (for better and def worse), I'm pretty sure I'll end up voting Taxi.

Larry Sanders (3 Emmys) over all of them.

Without a doubt.

Coarse Apple Slaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link

Larry Sanders (3 Emmys) over all of them.

Without a doubt.

― Coarse Apple Slaw (Old Lunch), Monday, September 8, 2014 10:44 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thirded.

MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

Hell, Dave Coulier's Out of Control over at least half of them.

Despite AITF feeling like the only show here with "import" (for better and def worse),

yes, we know you like totally meaningless art.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

I don't like you, you meaningless fart.

damn, you've been stealing snappy patter from Hawks films!

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

also: stifle.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 15 September 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Hahahahaha.

No.


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